Red Sox 2025 Season Review/Offseason Preview Thread

[moonslav59]

40 minutes ago, JoeBrady said:

I thought he'd get more like $12M/2 from a team like the Rox.

It's deals like this that make me think Masa is not worth nothing.

[Larry Cook]

14 hours ago, moonslav59 said:

Arraez $12M/1 w SFG.

Will play 2B.

3 time batting champ. 
 

For us Campbell reportedly been in fort Myers working as a 2nd baseman this off season. 

[JoeBrady]

1 hour ago, Larry Cook said:

3 time batting champ. 
 

For us Campbell reportedly been in fort Myers working as a 2nd baseman this off season. 

If I were the RS, I'd spend a whole lot of time trying to make him a decent 2B.  I have a friend that is a real baseball person, and thinks it can be done.  He's usually right on on-the-field issues.  At the fit is absolutely perfect.

[Larry Cook]

3 minutes ago, JoeBrady said:

If I were the RS, I'd spend a whole lot of time trying to make him a decent 2B.  I have a friend that is a real baseball person, and thinks it can be done.  He's usually right on on-the-field issues.  At the fit is absolutely perfect.

Roster construction looks a lot better and balanced if Campbell can play a decent 2nd base and if he, Mayer,  Anthony and narveaz can all hit to their potential!!    

[moonslav59]

1 hour ago, Larry Cook said:

3 time batting champ. 
 

For us Campbell reportedly been in fort Myers working as a 2nd baseman this off season. 

He hasn't had an OPS over .744 since 2023. While .744 is not horrible, his 2B defense is, so I'd prefer Romy/DHam at 2B and using the $12M on Paredes.

It's kind of amazing that he won a batting title in 2023 with a .739 OPS. He only walked 24 times and hit just 4 HRs, that year. Only 39 of his 200 hits were for extra bases.

No thanks, even at $4M/1.

[moonslav59]

49 minutes ago, Larry Cook said:

Roster construction looks a lot better and balanced if Campbell can play a decent 2nd base and if he, Mayer,  Anthony and narveaz can all hit to their potential!!    

Even if he's bad but not horrible at 2B, but can hit ..775+, he'd be a big help. We'd have DHam for late inning defense and Romy as the back-up to KC, Mayer and Masa at DH (platoon with Masa or Mayer?)

[moonslav59]

55 minutes ago, JoeBrady said:

If I were the RS, I'd spend a whole lot of time trying to make him a decent 2B.  I have a friend that is a real baseball person, and thinks it can be done.  He's usually right on on-the-field issues.  At the fit is absolutely perfect.

If we don't trade an OF'er, all the more reason to try 2B again.

[Hugh2]

I believe Devers is going to be the Giants starting 1B in 2026 so we will all get our chance to see how they’d go.

the Sox might have jerker him around, but any team player in his position, looking at what the team is going through, would have picked up a first baseman mitt.

you can’t tell me he’s not a s***** teammate.  He might be a cool guy who is liked, but you can’t tell never tell me he’s a team first guy.  That’s my lane, and it’s smooth sailing over here.

[Randy Red Sox]

On 1/29/2026 at 9:47 PM, JoeBrady said:

IMO, guys like that are better off kept.  Yoshi should hit, so that's not a problem except for fit.  I'd prefer to see how Hicks does in ST rather than eat 80% of his salary.  We had Newcomb, who went from one of the worst 5-year stretches in BB to good enough for a $4.5M contract.  Keller went from a 5.84 with us, to a 2.07 with the Cubs, to a $22M/2 contract with Philly.  We should see what Hicks has before we make a rash decision.

i agree on Hicks but I dont hold out a lot of hope.

[moonslav59]

In 249 innings at 1B, a very small sample size, Devers was +2 DRS and -1 OAA, so maybe off to an average start, apparently with very little practice, until midseason 2025.

Casas in 1982 innings at 1B: -11 DRS and -14 OAA.

 

[moonslav59]

10 minutes ago, Randy Red Sox said:

i agree on Hicks but I dont hold out a lot of hope.

The re was word we wanted Hicks, but I doubt we demanded him. Even wanting him seems misguided.

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

27 minutes ago, moonslav59 said:

The re was word we wanted Hicks, but I doubt we demanded him. Even wanting him seems misguided.

Even wanting him gone?

[moonslav59]

3 minutes ago, 5GoldGlovesOF,75 said:

Even wanting him gone?

I'd prefer we have his slot open and the $12M x 2 off the books ($10.3 x 2 AAV)

Add his AAV to what we have left to spend and stay below line 3 might be enough to sign Suarez or trade for Paredes without having to give back salary.

[Larry Cook]

What is the ceiling for a guy like hicks in 2026?? 

[moonslav59]

22 minutes ago, Larry Cook said:

What is the ceiling for a guy like hicks in 2026?? 

That's really hard to know, and the uncertainty was likely a driving factor in the FO deciding to not even give him a ST'ing look.

His last decent year was not long ago: 3.22 FIP in '23. Maybe that was the best we could ever expect.

[mvp 78]

21 hours ago, Larry Cook said:

3 time batting champ. 
 

For us Campbell reportedly been in fort Myers working as a 2nd baseman this off season. 

KC has been working as 2B/LF, not just 2B FWIW. Those just are his normal positions. I don't think that means he has any shot of being on the Opening Day roster. 

[mvp 78]

19 hours ago, Hugh2 said:

I believe Devers is going to be the Giants starting 1B in 2026 so we will all get our chance to see how they’d go.

the Sox might have jerker him around, but any team player in his position, looking at what the team is going through, would have picked up a first baseman mitt.

you can’t tell me he’s not a s***** teammate.  He might be a cool guy who is liked, but you can’t tell never tell me he’s a team first guy.  That’s my lane, and it’s smooth sailing over here.

He's a fine teammate with a crappy boss who doesn't know how to communicate. 

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

13 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

KC has been working as 2B/LF, not just 2B FWIW. Those just are his normal positions. I don't think that means he has any shot of being on the Opening Day roster. 

A year ago, after being outplayed in Spring Training by two other top prospects, Campbell was handed a job as a starting big leaguer. A year later, he could go all Fitzy and hit half a dozen homers in Florida and still get cut.

Ironic... (I'd say moronic, but it's still February and the Red Sox are still missing at least one starting infielder).

[Old Red]

26 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

He's a fine teammate with a crappy boss who doesn't know how to communicate. 

I think Bloom, and Brez skipped the communication classes at Yale that Theo took.

[mvp 78]

20 minutes ago, 5GoldGlovesOF,75 said:

A year ago, after being outplayed in Spring Training by two other top prospects, Campbell was handed a job as a starting big leaguer. A year later, he could go all Fitzy and hit half a dozen homers in Florida and still get cut.

Ironic... (I'd say moronic, but it's still February and the Red Sox are still missing at least one starting infielder).

Well, he didn't mash in winter ball. He played ok in AAA at the end of the year. He'd really need to start turning it on for that to happen. His competition is Romy/Eaton, someone else? Since Hamilton is a LHB, it's a different roster spot. 

[Hugh2]

53 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

He's a fine teammate with a crappy boss who doesn't know how to communicate. 

If your boss calls and asks you to pick up a shift because someone got hurt he might be a dick…. But not for asking you to do your job.

[Old Red]

2 minutes ago, Hugh2 said:

If your boss calls and asks you to pick up a shift because someone got hurt he might be a dick…. But not for asking you to do your job.

Picking up a shift, and doing the same job would be a whole different situation.

[mvp 78]

6 minutes ago, Hugh2 said:

If your boss calls and asks you to pick up a shift because someone got hurt he might be a dick…. But not for asking you to do your job.

When did that happen? 

[Hugh2]

5 minutes ago, Old Red said:

Picking up a shift, and doing the same job would be a whole different situation.

So different, 90 feet over and fielding balls from a different angle and playing catch.

Thats too much to ask for for $30 million a year.  Bull f****ng s*** dude.  He screwed the team.  We could of had a better lineup without Toro in it.

BTW WHAT POSITION is Devers playing this year?????

 

EDIT: sorry, with Toro OUT of the lineup

[Old Red]

6 minutes ago, Hugh2 said:

So different, 90 feet over and fielding balls from a different angle and playing catch.

Thats too much to ask for for $30 million a year.  Bull f****ng s*** dude.  He screwed the team.  We could of had a better lineup without Toro in it.

BTW WHAT POSITION is Devers playing this year?????

 

EDIT: sorry, with Toro OUT of the lineup

We’ve gone all over this now 1000’s of times already. Whole different situation, and you can call him whatever you like. We’ve also gone all over what position he’s playing with SF. He went to a NEW team who already have a good 3B. Once again a whole different situation.

[moonslav59]

15 minutes ago, Old Red said:

We’ve gone all over this now 1000’s of times already. Whole different situation, and you can call him whatever you like. We’ve also gone all over what position he’s playing with SF. He went to a NEW team who already have a good 3B. Once again a whole different situation.

We had a 3Bman, too- and a DH, but no 1Bman.

Not much difference from SFG.

[Bellhorn04]

I still fault Devers for the trade.  He couldn't have had a more supportive manager than Cora who I think tried everything to keep him happy.  Raffy showed up his team more than once with his public comments.  That crosses the line.  Doing it once is fixable, but he seemed to feel entitled to do it as much as he felt like it.       

[Hitch]

33 minutes ago, Hugh2 said:

So different, 90 feet over and fielding balls from a different angle and playing catch.

Thats too much to ask for for $30 million a year.  Bull f****ng s*** dude.  He screwed the team.  We could of had a better lineup without Toro in it.

BTW WHAT POSITION is Devers playing this year?????

 

EDIT: sorry, with Toro OUT of the lineup

You're never going to change their minds. They're locked in for life. 

You may as well go and argue with flat earthers. 

[Old Red]

2 minutes ago, moonslav59 said:

We had a 3Bman, too- and a DH, but no 1Bman.

Not much difference from SFG.

Cora said they were fine at 1B. Are you trying to count Masa who was shipped off in exile somewhere, and wouldn’t even let him bat at WOO under the ruse he was working on his arm. If you don’t think going to a new team isn’t a much different situation then no further discussion.

[Old Red]

3 minutes ago, Bellhorn04 said:

I still fault Devers for the trade.  He couldn't have had a more supportive manager than Cora who I think tried everything to keep him happy.  Raffy showed up his team more than once with his public comments.  That crosses the line.  Doing it once is fixable, but he seemed to feel entitled to do it as much as he felt like it.       

Why do you think Cora was just trying to make everyone happy instead of just thinking Raffy at 1B was a bad idea?He had settled in quite nicely at DH, after a record breaking disastrous start.