in any event this trade stunk for several reasons. The O's already had their long term C in sight and it wasn't AR. There is no way they were going to sign him as a FA so instead they got one A+ SP prospect and one A-SP prospect PLUS a BU C likely to put up as good or better #'s than AR plus a 4th player as well. We have already released the scrap B/U C the O's threw in the deal. HORRIBLE, HORRIBLE, HORRIBLE trade !!!