A Realistic View of 2024: Part II

[notin]

Well, let's hope they don't put Smith in the OF.

 

Even 1b has shown to be a stretch…

[mvp 78]

I just realized you don't hear anyone talk about how

 

Jordan Montgomery, Blake Snell, Yoshinobu Yamamoto, Marchus Stroman, or Sonny Gray are doing.

 

Monty has only pitched in 2 games, both of which were QS. Snell is injured. Ignoring his first start, Yamamoto has been great. Stroman has been Stroman. Gray has been great too.

[notin]

Apparently the Sox acquired LHRP Bailey Horn last night. I missed that.

 

This means a DFA coming to add Smith to the 40 man.

 

Hamilton? Dalbec? Gutierrez? Heineman?

[mvp 78]

Even 1b has shown to be a stretch…

 

Career 2 DRS at 1B.

[notin]

Career 2 DRS at 1B.

 

7 DRS in the last 3 seasons. I’m surprised/shocked.

 

Well, now I get to see first hand…

[mvp 78]

@BOSSportsGordo

Masataka Yoshida will be placed on the IL, Alex Cora said on @JonesandMego.

[Old Red]

Well, I wouldn’t get too excited with my bullying. Is Dominic Smith really any better than Franchy Cordero?

 

But you’re not supposed to be able to do anything like this at this early in the season at least in Bloom’s case. 🤭🙈🤫

[Bellhorn04]

Monty has only pitched in 2 games, both of which were QS. Snell is injured. Ignoring his first start, Yamamoto has been great. Stroman has been Stroman. Gray has been great too.

 

And Sox fans aren't bitching these days because wins are the elixir for everything. But the season is very young.

[moonslav59]

Red Sox acquired INF Zack Short from the Mets and are reportedly going to sign 1b Dom Smith once he opts out.

 

So full 40 man with no new pitchers?

 

We currently have 22 pitchers on the 40, not counting the 3 we have on the 60 Day IL (Giolito, Murphy and Hendriks).

 

We do have 4 of those 22 on the shorter IL (Pivetta, Whitlock, Bello & Campbell.)

 

That leaves 18, including Wikelman and Perales, who are not likely to be ML ready, this year. I guess we could say we have 16 available, now for the 13 man ML staff. Of those 16, one is the recently acquired Bailey Horn- a pitcher with very high BB/9 rates and no MLB experience.

 

It does look like we are cutting this very short, but we do have 3 pitchers who may come off the IL in the next 1-2 weeks.

 

With all these 1Bman on the roster, maybe we finally DFA Dalbec and add a pitcher.

Edited May 1, 2024 by moonslav59

[notin]

But you’re not supposed to be able to do anything like this at this early in the season at least in Bloom’s case.

 

I honestly don’t remember what opportunities he had. I do get why he didn’t commit to any player under control for too long, since Casas was breaking down the door.

 

And you gotta admit it is pretty lucky when a team DFAs a cheap .270 hitting former All Star (from only 2 years ago!) who just happened to play the position you found yourself most in need of due to injury…

[moonslav59]

Apparently the Sox acquired LHRP Bailey Horn last night. I missed that.

 

This means a DFA coming to add Smith to the 40 man.

 

Hamilton? Dalbec? Gutierrez? Heineman?

 

We could move Mata to the 60 Day IL. He's already been out about 30 days.

Edited May 1, 2024 by moonslav59

[Old Red]

I honestly don’t remember what opportunities he had. I do get why he didn’t commit to any player under control for too long, since Casas was breaking down the door.

 

And you gotta admit it is pretty lucky when a team DFAs a cheap .270 hitting former All Star (from only 2 years ago!) who just happened to play the position you found yourself most in need of due to injury…

 

You didn’t need anyone to be under control for very long just like the guys they are picking up now. They are just TEMPORARY fill ins.

[Hugh2]

Monty has only pitched in 2 games, both of which were QS. Snell is injured. Ignoring his first start, Yamamoto has been great. Stroman has been Stroman. Gray has been great too.

 

 

I didn't notice with how awesome this mostly homegrown rotation has performed.

[notin]

You didn’t need anyone to be under control for very long just like the guys they are picking up now. They are just TEMPORARY fill ins.

 

Yeah but let’s see if they work out.

 

Smith has been in decline for a while now. I’m not saying the Sox should have passed on him; I’m saying the jury is stop out…

[notin]

You didn’t need anyone to be under control for very long just like the guys they are picking up now. They are just TEMPORARY fill ins.

 

Also you walked right past the lucky thing. Any reason?

[Old Red]

Yeah but let’s see if they work out.

 

Smith has been in decline for a while now. I’m not saying the Sox should have passed on him; I’m saying the jury is stop out…

At least Brez is making moves. Bloom did not until he was handed Hosmer.

[notin]

At least Brez is making moves. Bloom did not until he was handed Hosmer.

 

Yep. Bloom’s inactions were his biggest problem. And why I was glad to see him go.

 

Sad, too, because when he actually made moves, they occasionally turned out ok. Wilted Abreu, Nick Pivetta, Garrett Whitlock, Reese McGuire. His signature trade will always be a flop, but I don’t think he had a choice, and maybe he was right to turn down Brusdar Graterol…

[moonslav59]

I honestly don’t remember what opportunities he had. I do get why he didn’t commit to any player under control for too long, since Casas was breaking down the door.

 

And you gotta admit it is pretty lucky when a team DFAs a cheap .270 hitting former All Star (from only 2 years ago!) who just happened to play the position you found yourself most in need of due to injury…

 

It's not impossible to make trades in May and June, and back-up 1Bmen are often a dime a dozen, but it is not always easy to find the right fit, at this time of the year.

 

In '22, it was not absurd to give Bobby Dee a long look. He had started slowly in 2021, but was a big part of our second half success (.867 in his last 103 games of 2021.) In 2021, he began his turn-around on May 13th, so it made some sense to stick with him to mid May or a little longer. The idea was casas was beating down the door in AAA, so looking outside the system looked to be unnecessary. We also had late 2021 late season star, Travis Shaw on the roster, early in 2022.

 

The killer was when casas went on the IL in AA near the end of May. I'm not sure they knew how long he was going to be on the shelf, but if they knew it was going to be a long time, then looking outside the system made sense at the end of May and through June. (Casas returned to AAA in mid July.)

 

The choice to try Marwin Gonzalez (99 innings at 1B,) Danny Santana (98,) Cordero (65) and Chavis (53,) before finally acquiring Schwarber at the deadline- someone not known as a 1Bman.

 

I'm not sure who the choices were near the end of may to July, but it sure looks like an outside option could not have done as badly as the in-house guys ended up doing.

[mvp 78]

And Sox fans aren't bitching these days because wins are the elixir for everything. But the season is very young.

 

Not many fans were clamoring for Stroman or Gray either. It's clear they had no shot of getting Yamamoto. Snell was an obvious high risk move. I think the Sox would have still been smart to get anyway. Henry didn't think so.

[mvp 78]

I didn't notice with how awesome this mostly homegrown rotation has performed.

 

Loving those Chase Anderson starts, are you?

[mvp 78]

At least Brez is making moves. Bloom did not until he was handed Hosmer.

 

Bloom scoured the waiver wire for relievers daily.

[mvp 78]

Yep. Bloom’s inactions were his biggest problem. And why I was glad to see him go.

 

Sad, too, because when he actually made moves, they occasionally turned out ok. Wilted Abreu, Nick Pivetta, Garrett Whitlock, Reese McGuire. His signature trade will always be a flop, but I don’t think he had a choice, and maybe he was right to turn down Brusdar Graterol…

 

Sox would still be trying to make Brusdar a starter.

[mvp 78]

@redsoxstats

Vaughn Grissom's expected debut Friday in Minnesota

 

For all the Vaughn Grissom LOVERS out there.

[moonslav59]

Not many fans were clamoring for Stroman or Gray either. It's clear they had no shot of getting Yamamoto. Snell was an obvious high risk move. I think the Sox would have still been smart to get anyway. Henry didn't think so.

 

A few people, I think Bell was one and I felt Gray was a good idea, because his age would likely mean a shorter term deal- something we felt this management team might be attracted to.

[moonslav59]

@redsoxstats

Vaughn Grissom's expected debut Friday in Minnesota

 

For all the Vaughn Grissom LOVERS out there.

 

LOL.

 

Funny.

[mvp 78]

A few people, I think Bell was one and I felt Gray was a good idea, because his age would likely mean a shorter term deal- something we felt this management team might be attracted to.

 

Not many = a few. He was also signed very early on.

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

We could move Mata to the 60 Day IL. He's already been out about 30 days.

 

You mean 30 years. Mata is the homegrown version of Mondesi. Wasn't Mata the Sox #1 pitching prospect before the pandemic?

[mvp 78]

You mean 30 years. Mata is the homegrown version of Mondesi. Wasn't Mata the Sox #1 pitching prospect before the pandemic?

 

He didn't get passed by Houck in the rankings until he tore his UCL in March '21. That was really the beginning of the end for him.

[moonslav59]

You mean 30 years. Mata is the homegrown version of Mondesi. Wasn't Mata the Sox #1 pitching prospect before the pandemic?

 

You crack me up. (Don't stop!)

 

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

Masa due for an MRI or X-rays on his hand today. More than likely he'll be on either the 10 or 15 day IL.