Early Trade deadline deals the selling Sox should make

[notin]

1 hour ago, mvp 78 said:

Then you get to lose the deadline because you traded for nobodies and lose the next season because you traded those same "great young players" for nothing. 🤔

So you prefer to cut out the middleman and trade for mediocre non-factor players right there at the deadline?

[Nick]

Only way to appease the disgruntled fanbase is to play our young guys. I really don't give a damn how bad we finish, makes no difference to me if we're current 13.5 games back or 25 games back.

We suck. 

Why do we waste playing opportunity on Yoshida? For that matter, Story when he comes back? Are they going to play key roles in 2027? I definitely wouldn't count on it. I don't want to watch them. 

We at least have Tolle and Early to go with veterans Crochet and Suarez. We can get Sonny Gray back for $30M, probably too much money for JH. It would be great if we can get an almost ready starting arm for say Chapman and Sonny Gray. Those two would be very valuable for a team trying to 'go for it' 

I would also love to see Arias in September if not earlier? What's the damage? I assume he has major league skills to play short. He's not burning a team controlled service time at this point. Give us a peek at his potential. We have nothing to lose. I rather find out that a player is overrated sooner rather than later.

Mr. Ivy leaguer Bres, please don't insult my intelligence by making several nonsense lateral moves. And quit signing injured players. Whatever happened to he may return in September 2025 Patrick Sandoval? Another freaking $18.5M thrown away by Breslow. I'd rather you placed the bet on the 'red' at the Roulette table. God, we suck.

 

[notin]

1 hour ago, Nick said:

Only way to appease the disgruntled fanbase is to play our young guys. I really don't give a damn how bad we finish, makes no difference to me if we're current 13.5 games back or 25 games back.

We suck. 

Why do we waste playing opportunity on Yoshida? For that matter, Story when he comes back? Are they going to play key roles in 2027? I definitely wouldn't count on it. I don't want to watch them. 

We at least have Tolle and Early to go with veterans Crochet and Suarez. We can get Sonny Gray back for $30M, probably too much money for JH. It would be great if we can get an almost ready starting arm for say Chapman and Sonny Gray. Those two would be very valuable for a team trying to 'go for it' 

I would also love to see Arias in September if not earlier? What's the damage? I assume he has major league skills to play short. He's not burning a team controlled service time at this point. Give us a peek at his potential. We have nothing to lose. I rather find out that a player is overrated sooner rather than later.

Mr. Ivy leaguer Bres, please don't insult my intelligence by making several nonsense lateral moves. And quit signing injured players. Whatever happened to he may return in September 2025 Patrick Sandoval? Another freaking $18.5M thrown away by Breslow. I'd rather you placed the bet on the 'red' at the Roulette table. God, we suck.

 

Bring back Campbell!

Arias?  Why?  “We rushed Campbell and he wasn’t ready.  Then we rushed Mayer and the same thing!! When will the Sox learn?  Also, let’s rush Arias!”

[Sthpaw777]

5 hours ago, mvp 78 said:

The theory is that they wanted to hire him to run the pitching for the org, but couldn't find a CBO so decided on giving it to him. Not sure I buy it, but it's a theory. 

I’d believe it. Nobody wanted the gig. 

[UtahSox]

4 hours ago, notin said:

They should get prospects back.  It’s really difficult to get contributing major leaguers at the deadline, since any team you’re dealing with expects those players to stay and, well, contribute.  Cherington tried tjis in 2014, dealing Lester and Lackey and hetting back Allen Craig, Yoenis Cespedes and Joe Kelly.  Craig was just a bad contract that did nothing in Boston.  Cespedes was later flipped for Rick Porcello that off-season.  Only Kelly stuck around.  Selling off your two  best pitchers should have yielded much more. 

Get prospects.  Deal them in December/January when more teams will be in position to make deals with a better variety of targets…

See I think fans are more willing to accept where they are in the rebuild process in July rather than January. 
By January the hype train is leaving the station for upcoming season. Royals, Giants, Angels, Dbacks, Reds, Twins, Astros, Mets are all teams I’d identify as more likely to sell 2027 bats at deadline for prospects rather than at start of new season. 
 

Just an Example :

1-I’d trade Jake Bennett and Marcelo Mayer for Ketel Marte.
2-  trade a bag of Cheetos for Carlos Correa now.

3- trade Otto Lopez & Sandy Alcantara for Durbin + mid prospects 

4- trade Duran, Chapman, IKF, Romy Gonzalez  and Sonny Gray for prospects. 
 

next year RS are ready to pounce with much better bats in lineup. 
1. Anthony LF

2. Marte 2b

3. Correa 3b

4. WC40 1b

5. Abreu RF

6. Lopez SS

7. C Rafaela CF

8. Gaspar/ Narvaez C

9. Story/ Yoshida DH

Sp- Crochet, Suarez, Alcantara, early, Tolle, Oviedo

[notin]

4 hours ago, UtahSox said:

See I think fans are more willing to accept where they are in the rebuild process in July rather than January. 
By January the hype train is leaving the station for upcoming season. Royals, Giants, Angels, Dbacks, Reds, Twins, Astros, Mets are all teams I’d identify as more likely to sell 2027 bats at deadline for prospects rather than at start of new season. 
 

Just an Example :

1-I’d trade Jake Bennett and Marcelo Mayer for Ketel Marte.
2-  trade a bag of Cheetos for Carlos Correa now.

3- trade Otto Lopez & Sandy Alcantara for Durbin + mid prospects 

4- trade Duran, Chapman, IKF, Romy Gonzalez  and Sonny Gray for prospects. 
 

next year RS are ready to pounce with much better bats in lineup. 
1. Anthony LF

2. Marte 2b

3. Correa 3b

4. WC40 1b

5. Abreu RF

6. Lopez SS

7. C Rafaela CF

8. Gaspar/ Narvaez C

9. Story/ Yoshida DH

Sp- Crochet, Suarez, Alcantara, early, Tolle, Oviedo

1.  Crawford and Houck are both hurt but neither is officially dead.

2.  The DBacks are not trading Marte; they’re one game out!

3. Correa costs at a minimum two bags of Funyuns.  Minimum.  (Throw in some Cool Ranch.)

[UtahSox]

13 minutes ago, notin said:

1.  Crawford and Houck are both hurt but neither is officially dead.

2.  The DBacks are not trading Marte; they’re one game out!

3. Correa costs at a minimum two bags of Funyuns.  Minimum.  (Throw in some Cool Ranch.)

Idk a lot of chatter about Marte sitting out 1 in every 10 games and how they are tired of him. They think he was dodging Ohtani. But then the next game he hit a walk off homer. It just feels like they could use a reset. And Bennett’s been pitching well. 2 starters with years might do the trick. 
 

I honestly had completely forgotten about Houck and Kutter. Wow…. IDK maybe Tolle could be the closer?? Take Chapman’s spot.

[mvp 78]

15 hours ago, notin said:

Bring back Campbell!

Arias?  Why?  “We rushed Campbell and he wasn’t ready.  Then we rushed Mayer and the same thing!! When will the Sox learn?  Also, let’s rush Arias!”

Argument for Arias: better contact rates than Mayer and Campbell and much better defense than Campbell

Argument against Arias: he's only 20 so there's no reason to rush him right now, especially with a team that absolutely blows and Arias's ceiling isn't the same as Roman's ceiling, he's just projected to be an everyday regular not an All Star

[mvp 78]

14 hours ago, UtahSox said:

See I think fans are more willing to accept where they are in the rebuild process in July rather than January. 
By January the hype train is leaving the station for upcoming season. Royals, Giants, Angels, Dbacks, Reds, Twins, Astros, Mets are all teams I’d identify as more likely to sell 2027 bats at deadline for prospects rather than at start of new season. 
 

Just an Example :

1-I’d trade Jake Bennett and Marcelo Mayer for Ketel Marte.
2-  trade a bag of Cheetos for Carlos Correa now.

3- trade Otto Lopez & Sandy Alcantara for Durbin + mid prospects 

4- trade Duran, Chapman, IKF, Romy Gonzalez  and Sonny Gray for prospects. 
 

next year RS are ready to pounce with much better bats in lineup. 
1. Anthony LF

2. Marte 2b

3. Correa 3b

4. WC40 1b

5. Abreu RF

6. Lopez SS

7. C Rafaela CF

8. Gaspar/ Narvaez C

9. Story/ Yoshida DH

Sp- Crochet, Suarez, Alcantara, early, Tolle, Oviedo

There's a report from AZ that says they don't even want Mayer, they want Tolle AND Early for Marte. 😎

#3 isn't happening.

IKF and an injured Romy aren't bringing back prospects that worth trading for. 

[Old Red]

11 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

Argument for Arias: better contact rates than Mayer and Campbell and much better defense than Campbell

Argument against Arias: he's only 20 so there's no reason to rush him right now, especially with a team that absolutely blows and Arias's ceiling isn't the same as Roman's ceiling, he's just projected to be an everyday regular not an All Star

Arias is fine right where he is in Portland.

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

2 minutes ago, Old Red said:

Arias is fine right where he is in Portland.

Drove through a construction site in New Jersey where a sign said, "Fines double."

So when my wife got mad at me, she said, "Fine, fine."

[Old Red]

11 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

There's a report from AZ that says they don't even want Mayer, they want Tolle AND Early for Marte. 😎

#3 isn't happening.

IKF and an injured Romy aren't bringing back prospects that worth trading for. 

I’m for just riding things out as they are right now, and just limbo how low you can go until the trade deadline. Getting a BIG bat like Alonso who hit his 15th last night should have been done in the offseason.

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

3 minutes ago, Old Red said:

I’m for just riding things out as they are right now, and just limbo how low you can go until the trade deadline. Getting a BIG bat like Alonso who hit his 15th last night should have been done in the offseason.

The Red Sox need at least four bats like Alonso's. 

Then the next time they play the Orioles, he might have to use someone else's.

[notin]

2 minutes ago, Old Red said:

I’m for just riding things out as they are right now, and just limbo how low you can go until the trade deadline. Getting a BIG bat like Alonso who hit his 15th last night should have been done in the offseason.

If they are going all in on a free agent, hopefully it just isn’t the “best available.”  Alonso signed a 5 year deal at age 31 which will take him through age 35.  His similar at 31 are Matt Olson (good) and Chris Davis (bad).  David didnt even have 5 years left in his career at that point.  
 

Olson would be great, but he’s not 35 yet.  He is more likely to last through age 35 than Alonso, as he is a much better overall player, which is shown by his repeatedly higher WAR.  
 

I get passing on Alonso.  Two to three years from now, he’d be the new Trevor Story on this team…

[Old Red]

4 minutes ago, notin said:

If they are going all in on a free agent, hopefully it just isn’t the “best available.”  Alonso signed a 5 year deal at age 31 which will take him through age 35.  His similar at 31 are Matt Olson (good) and Chris Davis (bad).  David didnt even have 5 years left in his career at that point.  
 

Olson would be great, but he’s not 35 yet.  He is more likely to last through age 35 than Alonso, as he is a much better overall player, which is shown by his repeatedly higher WAR.  
 

I get passing on Alonso.  Two to three years from now, he’d be the new Trevor Story on this team…

I’m not for going all in on anybody now. I’m for riding things out until the trade deadline, and then unloading what won’t be around next year. 

[mvp 78]

6 minutes ago, notin said:

If they are going all in on a free agent, hopefully it just isn’t the “best available.”  Alonso signed a 5 year deal at age 31 which will take him through age 35.  His similar at 31 are Matt Olson (good) and Chris Davis (bad).  David didnt even have 5 years left in his career at that point.  
 

Olson would be great, but he’s not 35 yet.  He is more likely to last through age 35 than Alonso, as he is a much better overall player, which is shown by his repeatedly higher WAR.  
 

I get passing on Alonso.  Two to three years from now, he’d be the new Trevor Story on this team…

Next year's FA class is uggo. 

[notin]

12 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

Next year's FA class is uggo. 

Agreed.  I peaked.

All the more reason to sell off for as many prospects/trading chips as possible next month…

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

I never wanted Geno Suarez, and he's a negative WAR this year as a DH with only 5 HRs. But 1. that's more than all but four 2026 Red Sox, and 2. he's a big leaguer who can hit the ball farther than the warning track.

I blather, like a lot of posters, but it's really no surprise that current reports from other MLB front office evaluators can't believe Boston is batting a minor league line-up every night.

The Sad Sox have no choice to sign or trade for average MAJOR LEAGUE TALENT -- just to get back to mediocrity.

(that's not to ignore acquiring future core batters like Tibbs and his 18 AAA homers or even Password, who had 6 dingers in the minors  before recent promotion).

[notin]

15 minutes ago, Old Red said:

I’m not for going all in on anybody now. I’m for riding things out until the trade deadline, and then unloading what won’t be around next year. 

Chapman, Gray and IKF.  Relievers are always hot deadline property, but I think they need to keep Whitlock. Any of the rest are available IMO, but none are really needle movers.  I also move Bello if possible. 

Hold Duran until the off-season….

[Old Red]

5 minutes ago, notin said:

Chapman, Gray and IKF.  Relievers are always hot deadline property, but I think they need to keep Whitlock. Any of the rest are available IMO, but none are really needle movers.  I also move Bello if possible. 

Hold Duran until the off-season….

Bello needs a new start in a new home.

[notin]

30 minutes ago, Old Red said:

Bello needs a new start in a new home.

His contract limits his appeal.  But if the Sox could pry Sean Murphy (2yrs $30mill) from Atlanta where he is now the world’s most expensive backup catcher, it makes sense to add him as a RHH C/1b/DH bat. 
 

And Atlanta could stop activating Carlos Carrasco types.  Leave Carlos alone!! His right arm is attached by maybe 3-5 cells  at this point!! The man has had more surgeries than the entire cast of every “Real Housewives” program combined!!

[UtahSox]

1 hour ago, notin said:

If they are going all in on a free agent, hopefully it just isn’t the “best available.”  Alonso signed a 5 year deal at age 31 which will take him through age 35.  His similar at 31 are Matt Olson (good) and Chris Davis (bad).  David didnt even have 5 years left in his career at that point.  
 

Olson would be great, but he’s not 35 yet.  He is more likely to last through age 35 than Alonso, as he is a much better overall player, which is shown by his repeatedly higher WAR.  
 

I get passing on Alonso.  Two to three years from now, he’d be the new Trevor Story on this team…

Specifically which free agents fix the lineup next year? Or who specifically can RS trade for in offseason that fits this description?

 

[mvp 78]

8 minutes ago, notin said:

His contract limits his appeal.  But if the Sox could pry Sean Murphy (2yrs $30mill) from Atlanta where he is now the world’s most expensive backup catcher, it makes sense to add him as a RHH C/1b/DH bat. 
 

And Atlanta could stop activating Carlos Carrasco types.  Leave Carlos alone!! His right arm is attached by maybe 3-5 cells  at this point!! The man has had more surgeries than the entire cast of every “Real Housewives” program combined!!

Why add an expensive Sean Murphy? He hasn't hit since '23? There's nothing to say that he'll do anything of note going forward. 

[drewski6]

3 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

Why add an expensive Sean Murphy? He hasn't hit since '23? There's nothing to say that he'll do anything of note going forward. 

Not into Sean Murphy and with his .150 OPS and .050 batting average, that doesnt really sound like the RH bat we need. This is again, too much emphasis on position and not enough emphasis on just getting elite hitters.

[Behindenemylines]

On 5/18/2026 at 11:20 AM, mvp 78 said:

If they trade Chapman, they need to keep Whitlock around. Doesn't make sense to deal both of them unless they are tanking for 3 years. 

Agree! Trade Chapman and keep Whitlock. Can always resign Chapman this off season if they want to. He has a lot of value to a team that needs a big arm in the back of their pen. Should get some value for him.

[Old Red]

5 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

Why add an expensive Sean Murphy? He hasn't hit since '23? There's nothing to say that he'll do anything of note going forward. 

Saying Murphy hasn’t hit since 2023 is being too kind. Big hell NO on him.

[notin]

9 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

Why add an expensive Sean Murphy? He hasn't hit since '23? There's nothing to say that he'll do anything of note going forward. 

Excellent defensive catcher with a hitting profile limited by his playing time.  Hes backing up an MVP candidate right now.

Hes pribably the best you can get for Bello.

[notin]

15 minutes ago, UtahSox said:

Specifically which free agents fix the lineup next year? Or who specifically can RS trade for in offseason that fits this description?

 

Free agent class sucks.  And I will ignore the very important but unknown CBA implications for now.
 

But I would try to add Bo Bichette (can opt out and was the only FA worth looking at last year) and - here comes my typical controversial choice - Spencer Torkelson…

[notin]

8 minutes ago, drewski6 said:

Not into Sean Murphy and with his .150 OPS and .050 batting average, that doesnt really sound like the RH bat we need. This is again, too much emphasis on position and not enough emphasis on just getting elite hitters.

Hes my salary dump for Bello.  Not the missing piece.

 

[mvp 78]

9 minutes ago, drewski6 said:

Not into Sean Murphy and with his .150 OPS and .050 batting average, that doesnt really sound like the RH bat we need. This is again, too much emphasis on position and not enough emphasis on just getting elite hitters.

With Catcher, I'm fine with a good glove guy TBH. Narvaez was fine! What's the big deal? Fix MIF! Make sure Durbin can actually hit! Maybe move him to 2b and find a power bat for 3b? DH?