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All that being said, we really should not second-guess Breslow and Bailey on pitching right now they have been on fire

Both guys suck…. I’m on pins and Needles anytime either of them take the mound. But I agree if we waived Coulumbe to save JH 250k (2 weeks worth of yacht fuel) and it puts our momentum at risk what a bozo owner.

I agree 100% no rentals. Any move made I’d like to see a minimum of 2027 control. For pitching we have all seen injuries play a major part and projecting into 2027 in 2028 is really hard for a pitcher. Eyanson and Valera might be really good, but they also might have to get Tommy John surgery in April of next year??? Which would mean we wouldn’t see them until 2030. Obviously they are very highly valued, but we also know to get good players. You have to give up good players. Red Sox could absorb losing a couple highly touted arms for a big bat now. Next year as slated, we have Garrett crochet, Ranger Suarez, Peyton Tolle, Connolly early, Jake Bennett, Kutter Crawford, Johan Oviedo, and Tanner Houck plus if they can figure something out with Bryan Bello. That’s a lot of starters. Now I realize I can’t speak out both sides of my mouth, and injuries do happen quite frequently, but it does seem like free agent pitchers that are high impact/rentals are much more easily obtained than hitters. Thats my argument don’t fire sale elite pitcher prospects……but if it gets you CJ Abrams, we probably need to make that move happen.

I’m all for trading Mayer…. But we are 1/2 game out at the ASB I mean I’d like to be 5-6 wins over 500, but I still had us as a WC team @ start of season. So why would we trade 11-1 with an ERA of 2.5? When we get in the WC do you know how much scarier we are? Game 1- Suarez (look up his postseason history) game 2- Sonny Gray game 3 Garrett Crochet with Bennett, Tolle, Sandoval in the mix to eat innings. unless the haul is insane I don’t think you move Sonny Gray. Guys I’d move for but only for players that can help 2027-2028: Narvaez, Mayer, Duran, Eyanson, Witherspoon, Valera, Phillips (any of our pitching prospects) a couple of our younger hitting prospects.

He has a negative trade value and it’s worth a crazy amount more for Mets to move on from him soon (I think like 70-80m). Probably not even a top 15 prospect.

Agreed only bats .323 with 924 OPS in Fenway + 9HRs in 34 games…. Jesus I feel like you’d talk yourself out of Nvidia stock in 2022 even knowing what you know now.

OPS 857 since start of June…. 350 obp%

Adell probably wouldn’t cost much to get him hit 36 HR’s last year… absolutely RAKES LHP .919 OPS or something close. Plus at worst he could be a platoon with Duran in LF. Then if you move on from Duran you could have a solid 4th OF next year.

IDK why I think this but hear me out: 2 1/2 out of WC. Knowing if we get in, we have Crochet, Suarez, Gray, with Tolle, Bennett and Sandoval helping that’s such a great postseason rotation. We have Durbin mashing now at 3b, WC40 crushing it at 1b, get Roman back playing baseball, and add a 2b/SS (Bichette) for nothing. This team could do some damage. “Chip and chair”

Yeah and then I looked into the Joan Duran trade, they got a relief pitcher I haven’t seen any stats for, and Eduardo Tait. Who has fallen from 2nd to 5th in their prospect ratings. And they sure could have used Duran this year. I’m shifting to buy mode we are 2.5 out, but 2027 is the priority #1. I’d LOVE Bichette, not as a SS…. (But much better than Story.) Long term I think he is a 3rd or even a 2nd baseman. I like the 3 year commitment for a 28 year old that has always hit well at Fenway.

Another reason I wish they didn’t pay Roman/KC/Bello/ (tried to pay Tristan), They took a player made him less motivated/ more distracted. If anyone is wondering I’ve yet to see one of these deals work out for Red Sox. They raise AAV for the team paying luxury tax, It makes trading them a lot riskier/ devalue than Arb deals. Roman deal is really weird right now, I have a hard time believing he is better served being away from team…. Unless they are trying to motivate him.

I’m adamant in not jeopardizing 2027 with any of these moves…. I agree we are a long ways away from competing for WS this year. If we get Crochet, Suarez, and Roman all back healthy, I will say we would be a scarier team in October than last year. But even then it feels like everything has to go perfect for us to make it. I think we should be buyers but only players with 27 or beyond control. Also, if the returns aren’t good enough, I’m OK standing still on additions/ selling. If nothing else this winning streak has given us that, it’s the leverage that other teams know they arent only having to outbid the other bidders. It also other orgs need to understand we are super OK trying to make the playoffs with this current roster.

Yawn….. we are 50x more likely to have more pitchers come through. And even if Arias (who is only in Double A and 2 years away) IS the SS of the future. Abram’s easily could be moved off of short. Then look at pitching you have Crochet, Suarez, Early, and Bennett who are all left hand pitchers with 4+ years control. Then look at Bats we have coming through minors (not much) what about other pitchers?? Oh Eyanson, Witherspoon, Valera & Phillips. Id trade Tolle for Abrams by the end of tonight if Nationals would say yes.

To try and win more baseball games??? You can’t get good players without giving up good players. RS need a MIF with a great bat more than a very promising LHP (crochet, Suarez, Early still here)

Very true. Witt is most likely dream scenario.