Jordan Hicks To White Sox

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

The one thing I remember and liked about Baty that I saw in person in the minors is that he always tried to hit to the opposite field, which kept his head on the ball... and would play well in a home ballpark with a 37-foot high leftfield wall that is 310 feet from home plate.

[moonslav59]

6 minutes ago, 5GoldGlovesOF,75 said:

The one thing I remember and liked about Baty that I saw in person in the minors is that he always tried to hit to the opposite field, which kept his head on the ball... and would play well in a home ballpark with a 37-foot high leftfield wall that is 310 feet from home plate.

He's sub .520 vs LHPs career. Yikes!

[moonslav59]

Since the CWS are probably 5-6 years away from being respectable, how about...

Masa + $10M out of $36M owed plus Soto, Delzine & Cason for 3 used bats?

Then, we sign Suarez and trade for Paredes. That's two RHBs!

[jad]

Wow that Devers trade keeps paying HUGE divedends.

[moonslav59]

20 minutes ago, jad said:

Wow that Devers trade keeps paying HUGE divedends.

LOL

All that's left is Harrison & Jose Bello

[moonslav59]

Looking at the CWS BTV rundown, 3 of their top 11 players are from the Crochet trade:

3. Braden Montgomery 22

5. Chae Meidroth 21

11. Kyle Teel 18

Kinda wish we still had Meidroth and had sent them someone else- like Romero.

[JoeBrady]

2 hours ago, Old Red said:

I didn’t think the Red Sox could find anyone to take Hicks off their hands, but they did, and it only cost them $8M. Chicago must of wanted the Sand Man real bad to take on Hicks, and his remaining salary.

Like a lot of folks said, virtually every player has a number.  If Hicks was a FA, he'd automatically get a $2-3M+ contract.

[JoeBrady]

1 hour ago, moonslav59 said:

He's sub .520 vs LHPs career. Yikes!

.678 last year.

[moonslav59]

29 minutes ago, JoeBrady said:

.678 last year.

In 83 PAs. He was at .523 in 2024.

I'm okay getting a LHB, but not one needing a platoon.

[notin]

2 hours ago, jad said:

Wow that Devers trade keeps paying HUGE divedends.

That we dumped the guy we only took because he was San Fran’s salary dump?

[notin]

2 hours ago, moonslav59 said:

Looking at the CWS BTV rundown, 3 of their top 11 players are from the Crochet trade:

3. Braden Montgomery 22

5. Chae Meidroth 21

11. Kyle Teel 18

Kinda wish we still had Meidroth and had sent them someone else- like Romero.

Maybe Chicago wanted Meidroth?

Thats probably not the trade we want to undo.  It’s actually ok that some guys are working out for Chicago.  Thats how trades are supposed to work…

[moonslav59]

6 minutes ago, notin said:

Maybe Chicago wanted Meidroth?

Thats probably not the trade we want to undo.  It’s actually ok that some guys are working out for Chicago.  Thats how trades are supposed to work…

Of course nobody wants to undo that trade.

Yes, maybe Meidroth was a high demand by the CWS. I'd do it again and again.

[JoeBrady]

1 hour ago, moonslav59 said:

In 83 PAs. He was at .523 in 2024.

I'm okay getting a LHB, but not one needing a platoon.

.238 BABIP in 2024, with a .291 in 2025.  His minor league splits look 'okay'.  I find split problems usually reveal  themselves in the minors.  It could still be an issue, but not a definite.

[JoeBrady]

39 minutes ago, notin said:

That we dumped the guy we only took because he was San Fran’s salary dump?

If the focus was dumping Devers, then Hicks net cost of $9M is small potatoes.

[UtahSox]

As we look at the lineup vs RHP it’s not great but not horrific offense. 4 outfielders hit well vs RHP, Mayer hits much better, Contreras and Story are close to even splits. It’s an offense that can produce. 
vs LHP it’s dicey at best. 
 

LHP	Avg	OBP%	OPS
R Anthony	.278	.337	.770
C Rafaela	.220	.265	.679
W Abreu	.230	.299	.678
J Duran	.211	.260	.600
M Mayer	.154	.185	.414

Roman hits lefties decently well, Ceddane has surprising reverse splits vs lefties , Jarren was awful last year, and Abreu is not great. That exacerbates the need for Inf vs LHP because Mayer is AWFUL So he is for sure platooning with Romy. We need someone who can rake vs LHP. 

Here are the options:

LHP	Avg	OBP%	OPS
I Paredes	.200	.324	.691
N Hoerner	.369	.396	.935
M Shaw	.250	.318	.808
B Donavan	.230	.292	.614
K Marte	.277	.375	.891
M Andujar	.389	.409	.986

Honestly some of you guys might have more data than me, why Paredes was so bad versus left-hand pitching? If that is more than an anomaly, I don’t think he’s the answer, obviously Donovan is much worse vs LHP. No go there. 

Which leads me to this list:

1. K Marte

2. N. Hoerner

Big gap

3. Matt Shaw

another big gap

4. M. Andujar 

5. N Arenado

6. K. Campbell

[Randy Red Sox]

7 hours ago, moonslav59 said:

I like this move, a lot, but I was never too high on Sandlin.

My like or dislike can change depending on who we fill the two roster slots with and if the money saved is spent of pocketed.

it gets us slightly under the 2nd payroll level so I will let you guess if it is spent or pocketed.

[Randy Red Sox]

4 hours ago, JoeBrady said:

Like a lot of folks said, virtually every player has a number.  If Hicks was a FA, he'd automatically get a $2-3M+ contract.

another brilliant move by the FO right Joe??

[Randy Red Sox]

5 hours ago, moonslav59 said:

Since the CWS are probably 5-6 years away from being respectable, how about...

Masa + $10M out of $36M owed plus Soto, Delzine & Cason for 3 used bats?

Then, we sign Suarez and trade for Paredes. That's two RHBs!

We obviously couldn't afford Suarez after what he signed with the Reds for?

 

[moonslav59]

2 hours ago, JoeBrady said:

.238 BABIP in 2024, with a .291 in 2025.  His minor league splits look 'okay'.  I find split problems usually reveal  themselves in the minors.  It could still be an issue, but not a definite.

If we get him, I hope you're right

[moonslav59]

1 hour ago, Randy Red Sox said:

We obviously couldn't afford Suarez after what he signed with the Reds for?

 

Seemed more than affordable, if we wanted him.

[moonslav59]

The CWS will get 2 PTBN and the Sox will get 1 PTBNL.

[UtahSox]

I’ve been the biggest defender of JD…. I’m officially ready to trade him for Nico Hoerner. Nico fits this freakin lineup like a glove. 

[Old Red]

5 hours ago, UtahSox said:

I’ve been the biggest defender of JD…. I’m officially ready to trade him for Nico Hoerner. Nico fits this freakin lineup like a glove. 

I don’t see the Red Sox trading JD for a one, and done.

[Hugh2]

14 hours ago, jad said:

Wow that Devers trade keeps paying HUGE divedends.

I’m sorry, were you holding out for Skubal?

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

7 hours ago, UtahSox said:

I’ve been the biggest defender of JD…. I’m officially ready to trade him for Nico Hoerner. Nico fits this freakin lineup like a glove. 

Ya, that swap sounds more reasonable than what I read this AM: Donovan for Tolle... and Harrison... AND Valera.

I wouldn't trade Tolle straight up for Donovan... but I might do Harrison OR Valera.

[moonslav59]

2 hours ago, Old Red said:

I don’t see the Red Sox trading JD for a one, and done.

Yes, only 1 year for 3 is not fair.

We know we can't trust Brez to extend him.

[moonslav59]

47 minutes ago, 5GoldGlovesOF,75 said:

Ya, that swap sounds more reasonable than what I read this AM: Donovan for Tolle... and Harrison... AND Valera.

I wouldn't trade Tolle straight up for Donovan... but I might do Harrison OR Valera.

At least he's got 2 years, but I agree: no Tolle or Early for Donovan.

[mvp 78]

17 hours ago, king koji said:

This 8 million dollars subtracted from the 2026 Payroll maybe going towards a Eugenio Suarez Contract????

LOL

[mvp 78]

17 hours ago, Old Red said:

I didn’t think the Red Sox could find anyone to take Hicks off their hands, but they did, and it only cost them $8M. Chicago must of wanted the Sand Man real bad to take on Hicks, and his remaining salary.

This is a trade if you are the ChiSox and you really like Sandlin's stuff. 

This is a trade if you are the BoSox and you are really concerned with going over a certain CBT threshold and don't believe in Sandlin as a bullpen guy. 

[mvp 78]

16 hours ago, notin said:

Danny Coulombe and Luis Rengifo.  You heard it here first ,

Yuck