Red Sox (Fitts) vs Angels (Kikuchi): 6/25/25, 4:07pm

[Jasonbay44]

Watching this team is comparable to contracting aids. 

[Duran Is The Man]

s*** relievers, s*** defense, s*** hitters, s*** coaching, s*** management, s*** ownership.

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

12 minutes ago, Jasonbay44 said:

Watching this team is comparable to contracting aids. 

Contracting aids is too severe. I'd say it's comparable to watching an M. Night Shyamalan movie.

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

3 minutes ago, Duran Is The Man said:

s*** relievers, s*** defense, s*** hitters, s*** coaching, s*** management, s*** ownership.

Venders?

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

Angels in the outfield 

Sox in the hamper.

[d-money]

Yeah this team looks finito despite the up and down teams in the division. This is pathetic. 

[jad]

Ha ha!  Apparently, RS fans believe now (as they have historically) that if you bad-mouth a player or manager you have traded or effectively thrown out, then all the lame-ass things that management tells you will magically be true.

[Thunder]

TalkSox nation, it’s not too late to fund my travel expenses to see every Red Sox game across the country! Only then do we have a chance of making the playoffs at some point in the next 10 years. 

[Duran Is The Man]

29 minutes ago, SPLENDIDSPLINTER said:

Venders?

s*** analytics department..

[Nick]

Fitts has started 6 times. The team has lost all of his six starts. 

Fitts, Houck, Newcomb combo has yielded 4-16 team record. 

Now we have flame throwing relievers that can't throw strikes. 

How does Tampa Bay do it? Pitcher after pitcher.

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

1 minute ago, Duran Is The Man said:

s*** analytics department..

So what you're saying is the Sox organization is full of shite. Hard to argue that.

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

14 minutes ago, Thunder said:

TalkSox nation, it’s not too late to fund my travel expenses to see every Red Sox game across the country! Only then do we have a chance of making the playoffs at some point in the next 10 years. 

Thunder, this pathetic team is even beyond your extraordinary mojo. Thank you for your splendid service.

[FredLynn]

51 minutes ago, Jasonbay44 said:

Watching this team is comparable to contracting aids. 

More like getting a root canal.

[moonslav59]

3 hits.

Horrible.

[FredLynn]

Trivia time: 

How did the 7th inning stretch become a thing?

No looking it up!

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

35 minutes ago, FredLynn said:

Trivia time: 

How did the 7th inning stretch become a thing?

No looking it up!

Something pertaining to President Hoover attending a ball game?

[FredLynn]

11 minutes ago, SPLENDIDSPLINTER said:

Something pertaining to President Hoover attending a ball game?

Close

President William Taft was attending a baseball game in Pittsburgh and in between half innings (7th) he stood up to stretch. The entire crowd stood up out of respect.

Hence the “Seventh Inning Stretch” was born.

[dannycater]

The Sox were on fire, on a roll, everything was clicking, the wins, the Wild Card race and then Henry did it..he trades Devers...and apparently team spokesman and full-time RH only batter Refsnyder (honestly love the guy and he does produce and he is a consistent hitter) said he couldn't understand why the hitting dropped off this trip...let's see...ummm...must be a clubhouse problem affecting the young kids...ummm...yeah, that's it, that's the ticket. So Devers trade did what? KILLED THE SOX IN 2025

[FredLynn]

1 hour ago, dannycater said:

The Sox were on fire, on a roll, everything was clicking, the wins, the Wild Card race and then Henry did it..he trades Devers...and apparently team spokesman and full-time RH only batter Refsnyder (honestly love the guy and he does produce and he is a consistent hitter) said he couldn't understand why the hitting dropped off this trip...let's see...ummm...must be a clubhouse problem affecting the young kids...ummm...yeah, that's it, that's the ticket. So Devers trade did what? KILLED THE SOX IN 2025

You can’t kill something that’s already dead. 

[Duran Is The Man]

don't forget: Breslow said after the Raffy trade: "I do think there’s a real chance that at the end of the season, we’re looking back and we’ve won more games than we otherwise would have." 

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

is Breslow on drugs?? or clueless??

[Jasonbay44]

Red Sox in the 9 games before trading Rafael Devers: 7-2 (5.6 runs per game)

Red Sox in the 9 games since trading Rafael Devers: 3-6 (3.1 runs per game)

[notin]

3 hours ago, Jasonbay44 said:

Red Sox in the 9 games before trading Rafael Devers: 7-2 (5.6 runs per game)

Red Sox in the 9 games since trading Rafael Devers: 3-6 (3.1 runs per game)

Small samples but it is obvious what happened.

i dont get why they didn’t wait until July 31st.  Devers was probably being a complete tool, but he didn’t let it affect his hitting.  Did Devers give some sort of deadline?  Did SF?

So now Breslow has to pretend to be a buyer for 6 weeks while the offense flounders and no one will sell him the replace he wants.  (Why is Breslow ignoring that Toro stopped hitting, for example?)

[Bellhorn04]

2 hours ago, notin said:

Small samples but it is obvious what happened.

i dont get why they didn’t wait until July 31st.  Devers was probably being a complete tool, but he didn’t let it affect his hitting.  Did Devers give some sort of deadline?  Did SF?

So now Breslow has to pretend to be a buyer for 6 weeks while the offense flounders and no one will sell him the replace he wants.  (Why is Breslow ignoring that Toro stopped hitting, for example?)

My guess would be SF put the pressure on and the Sox decided they had to jump for one big reason: SF was offering to pay every nickel of the contract.

Even though I've been somewhat supportive of the trade, in the big picture it's yet another debacle for the post-2018 Red Sox.

Because what other team would trade their best hitter right after their best stretch of the season?    

 

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

Not really Trivial: What did Luis Arraez, Marcus Semien, Nick Kurtz, Ronny Mauricio, Ian Happ, Otto Lopez, Mike Tauchman, Lenyn Sosa, and Kyle TEEL have in common yesterday?

A: Each had as many hits -- 3 -- as the Boston Red Sox did.

(note: two Yankees -- Grisham and Dominguez -- had 4 hits each).

[dannycater]

I love the narrative that the Sox were put in a corner, or they were pressured, or Raffy pressured them, or a demand had to be met...bull all to the you know what...Sox knew exactly what it was doing and it was killing the '25 Sox in its tracks...You can't always time a deal, but the Sox were on a terrific high and run and they had to do it...they just couldn't help themselves and too many fans have eaten it up and said it's justified...it's incredible how the Sox themselves didn't take into consideration Devers' offensive value and his contributions or why they gave him a ton of money in first place..you want to compete, you pay for real talent. 

[Deja Doh]

I was at the game yesterday.  After the first inning the team seemed to just melt away in the sunshine (hell, the school kids on their summer camp field trips to the game had more energy screaming at the top of their lungs), we had none.  Fitts wasn't the problem.  Cora should have left him out to face the top of the lineup in the 5th. The Angels only one guy hitting above 0.228 in their lineup. 

Our problem is the constant lineup changes.  The coaches think they are being smart about this, but it's more chaos than anything else with these young players.  Pick a lineup and stick with it for a month.  At this point we are a sub 0.500 team.  I cannot see a rebound.

[dannycater]

7 minutes ago, Deja Doh said:

I was at the game yesterday.  After the first inning the team seemed to just melt away in the sunshine (hell, the school kids on their summer camp field trips to the game had more energy screaming at the top of their lungs), we had none.  Fitts wasn't the problem.  Cora should have left him out to face the top of the lineup in the 5th. The Angels only one guy hitting above 0.228 in their lineup. 

Our problem is the constant lineup changes.  The coaches think they are being smart about this, but it's more chaos than anything else with these young players.  Pick a lineup and stick with it for a month.  At this point we are a sub 0.500 team.  I cannot see a rebound.

I had an opportunity to go to any of the 3 games, and I am very pleased with myself that I avoided the drive and the effort and the money spent for a waste of fanship. It's a small market product for big market prices. Awful.

[mvp 78]

17 minutes ago, dannycater said:

I had an opportunity to go to any of the 3 games, and I am very pleased with myself that I avoided the drive and the effort and the money spent for a waste of fanship. It's a small market product for big market prices. Awful.

When I lived out there, the Angels had well known issues with rats at their stadium. Is this still the case? 

[dannycater]

Just now, mvp 78 said:

When I lived out there, the Angels had well known issues with rats at their stadium. Is this still the case? 

probably, but the only rats I have seen lately are plastic thrown at Marchand.

[harmony]

10 hours ago, Jasonbay44 said:

Red Sox in the 9 games before trading Rafael Devers: 7-2 (5.6 runs per game)

Red Sox in the 9 games since trading Rafael Devers: 3-6 (3.1 runs per game)

Two of the three wins on the West Coast trip came by two-run margins when the opponent went a combined 1-for-14 with runners in scoring position. The Sox won that three-game series despite scoring only five runs. That opponent scored 47 runs in its next five games. .

The Red Sox had some good fortune to offset their bad fortune.