A Realistic View of 2023: Part II

[dgalehouse]

No matter how many times I watch “Casablanca”, Rick never gets the girl. I’m well past the point of wondering “will he choose Ilsa THIS time?”

 

And so it goes with Dalbec.

 

Demote Casas to accommodate Duvall. Duran has earned a chance to stay and play more than Casas..

 

Play it again, Notin.

[Larry Cook]

No matter how many times I watch “Casablanca”, Rick never gets the girl. I’m well past the point of wondering “will he choose Ilsa THIS time?”

 

And so it goes with Dalbec.

 

Demote Casas to accommodate Duvall. Duran has earned a chance to stay and play more than Casas..

 

What about sending down Refsynder

[notin]

What about sending down Refsynder

 

I don’t think he has options and can’t be demoted without a DFA and waivers. And even then, he might be able to declare free agency. (Or not. I don’t know those rules fully. Little help?)

[Bellhorn04]

I don’t think he has options and can’t be demoted without a DFA and waivers. And even then, he might be able to declare free agency. (Or not. I don’t know those rules fully. Little help?)

 

Refsnyder just signed a contract extension.

[notin]

Play it again, Notin.

 

“You played it for her. You can play it for me.”

 

That’s the actual line. Rick never says “Play it again, Sam”.

 

Seen it enough times, much like the Dalbec Show. (Coming back full circle here.)

[Old Red]

With Casas struggling and Dalbec tearing it up in AAA , doesn't it seem like an obvious move to option Tristan and promote Bobby for one more look ?

 

Duvall, and Bobby D up, and Casas, and Duran back down.

[notin]

Refsnyder just signed a contract extension.

 

Yes but that wasn’t the question. If he was theoretically DFAd, would he be able to refuse assignment and declare free agency?

[illinoisredsox]

Yes but that wasn’t the question. If he was theoretically DFAd, would he be able to refuse assignment and declare free agency?

 

If Ref were DFA'd, the Sox would either have to trade him, release him or place him on waivers, I doubt they could trade him and given the contract extension, they aren't going to release him.

 

That leaves waivers; i don't know if he would clear them. He might have some value to a contender as a bench guy, so it would not be a for sure thing that he would clear waivers. If he did, the Sox could then outright him to the minors. However, since he has more than 3 years service time AND has been outrighted before in his career (I think by both Cleveland and the Twins), he could refuse the assignment and become a free agent.

 

I don't it happening. For one thing, he is a cheap bench guy who knows and is seemingly content with his role. He's a righty, which the Sox are sorely lacking.

 

I see Tapia as a more likely candidate for release or Duran sent down.

Edited June 4, 2023 by illinoisredsox

[notin]

If Ref were DFA'd, the Sox would either have to trade him, release him or place him on waivers, I doubt they could trade him and given the contract extension, they aren't going to release him.

 

That leaves waivers; i don't know if he would clear them. He might have some value to a contender as a bench guy, so it would not be a for sure thing that he would clear waivers. If he did, the Sox could then outright him to the minors. However, since he has more than 3 years service time AND has been outrighted before in his career (I think by both Cleveland and the Twins), he could refuse the assignment and become a free agent.

 

I don't it happening. For one thing, he is a cheap bench guy who knows and is seemingly content with his role. He's a righty, which the Sox are sorely lacking.

 

I see Tapia as a more likely candidate for release or Duran sent down.

 

 

It’s not going to happen, but I appreciate the explanation. It answered my question exactly…

[illinoisredsox]

It’s not going to happen, but I appreciate the explanation. It answered my question exactly…

 

If you want a sort of amazing stat re. Casas, Triston has a better OBP than Devers (by about .020). Nothing else is close (except K's), but that one caught my eye.

Edited June 4, 2023 by illinoisredsox

[Nick]

Turner seems to be getting a pass because he's a good guy.

 

To me he has done nothing extraordinary.

 

He did not get back to third base in time to tag a runner.

 

That cost us a run. Everyone else got blamed today for their poor defense.

Edited June 4, 2023 by Nick

[illinoisredsox]

Turner seems to be getting a pass because he's a good guy.

 

To me he has done nothing extraordinary.

 

He did not get back to third base in time to tag a runner.

 

That cost us a run. Everyone else got blamed today for their poor defense.

 

It was a team effort of mental mistakes all day, no doubt about it. Wong’s throw to 2nd and Yoshida’s bobble were physical errors; they happen. Throwing to the wrong base, not covering bases, etc. are mental mistakes. Those have to stop.

[moonslav59]

It was a team effort of mental mistakes all day, no doubt about it. Wong’s throw to 2nd and Yoshida’s bobble were physical errors; they happen. Throwing to the wrong base, not covering bases, etc. are mental mistakes. Those have to stop.

 

To me, it seems like much less of those, this year than 2022, but yes, they need to stop.

 

Very frustrating to watch!

[mvp 78]

Turner seems to be getting a pass because he's a good guy.

 

To me he has done nothing extraordinary.

 

He did not get back to third base in time to tag a runner.

 

That cost us a run. Everyone else got blamed today for their poor defense.

 

Lots of blame to spread around. He got caught in the middle on that one, but a guy of his stature should know better.

[jad]

Why DFA Tapia, (who has become one of my favorite players)? He's fast; he plays hard all the time; he's fun to watch.

[Nick]

Why DFA Tapia, (who has become one of my favorite players)? He's fast; he plays hard all the time; he's fun to watch.

 

I liked him too but

 

“Tough one,” said Alex Cora of the decision. “(Tapia) played so well for us. But this is (about) trust in Jarren. He’s part of this. We’ll find ways to keep getting him at-bats and maximize his talent. Obviously, the way the game is going he fits the mold -- fast, dynamic. And that’s something we cannot hide. Obviously, he’s been going through his struggles the last few weeks, but we do believe he can impact the game in a lot of ways and we’re going to keep him.”

 

Ultimately the team is beginning to prioritize the future. It'll be interesting to see what happens when Duvall comes back.

 

Like I said, Tapia has the type of athleticism I look for but sending Duran back to AAA made no sense at this point.

 

Casas deserves to be sent down before Casas right now........And I like Casas.

 

Speaking of Casas, I loved Jim Rice's comment about him.

 

He said something to the effect, "You're not batting fifth so that you can take a walk with runner on 2nd base with two outs. You're batting fifth so you can drive in that base runner."

 

AMEN to that .....Casas playing like a punch and judy hitter.

[Nick]

Hey Moon, what's your over and under on Arroyo staying healthy? I'll be generous and say 25 games.

 

“He is who he is. He’s a good player and a good defender,” said Cora. “Obviously, when he’s going well, offensively he can contribute. We’ve got him out there against a lefty today.”

 

He is who he is. What did he mean by THAT? That he's injury prone? lol

[Bellhorn04]

Hey Moon, what's your over and under on Arroyo staying healthy? I'll be generous and say 25 games.

 

“He is who he is. He’s a good player and a good defender,” said Cora. “Obviously, when he’s going well, offensively he can contribute. We’ve got him out there against a lefty today.”

 

He is who he is. What did he mean by THAT? That he's injury prone? lol

 

Cora is saying the quiet part out loud a lot lately.

[Nick]

Random

 

Runs scored YTD (3rd in AL)

 

154 April (3rd in AL)

122 May (T-10th in AL)

 

ERA

 

YTD 4.66 (12th in AL)

 

4.81 April (T 11th)

4.36 May (T 12th)

[Nick]

Bello, despite going 2-2 in his last 4 starts, he's pitched relatively well.

 

22 IP, 6 ER, 8 BB (5 in one start) and 22 K's.

 

He has thrown 402 pitches, going 107 in one start.

 

Obviously his command is not there yet but you would have to say he can shoulder his starts. Not coming out after 70 pitches like some. I believe he's an ace in making.

 

I'll get back to you with specifics but Lester at one point, took over the pitching staff. See if it happens to Bello.

[cp176]

DFAing Tapia is upsetting. he played hard and he played well. I have very little faith in even thinking that Arroyo can stay healthy for any length of time. Sale's injury really really hurts. One of my very favorite pitchers to watch. Without him or should I say a healthy him, you lose the ace that good teams all need. I'm thinking that I may have seen the end of the days when he was one of the best that I know that I have seen. When he was on the mound, it was must watch baseball for me.

[mvp 78]

Why DFA Tapia, (who has become one of my favorite players)? He's fast; he plays hard all the time; he's fun to watch.

 

They have faith that Duran can be the 4th OFer and that Duvall will be back soon. They also have Abreu on the 40 man who could be better than Duran or Tapia.

[Hugh2]

Why DFA Tapia, (who has become one of my favorite players)? He's fast; he plays hard all the time; he's fun to watch.

 

What was the alternative move?

[Hugh2]

Now they can put Kike in CF and Reyes at SS and turner at 1B and sit two of Duran/Yoshida/Casas/Devers vs. tough LHP.

[Hugh2]

More options coming soon with Duval back.

[oldtimer]

DFAing Tapia is upsetting. he played hard and he played well. I have very little faith in even thinking that Arroyo can stay healthy for any length of time. Sale's injury really really hurts. One of my very favorite pitchers to watch. Without him or should I say a healthy him, you lose the ace that good teams all need. I'm thinking that I may have seen the end of the days when he was one of the best that I know that I have seen. When he was on the mound, it was must watch baseball for me.

 

There will be a lot of decisions to be made in the very near future including the following players. Tapia, Durran, Duvall, Hernandez, Reyes, Valdez, Arroyo, Casas, Story and Chang. Management has to look at current performance and longer term benefits to the team. This is a very complicated situation for Bloom to handle. It impacts 1st, 2nd, SS, Utility, and at least one if not two outfield positions. Clearly, the contract situation for some make them nearly untouchable (Story) and the age of others favors competing now while injury history is a factor. The decisions may also impact DH with the current one possibly moving into 1st base while our LF possibly sliding into a DH role. I see it as a chance for Bloom to do a major realignment of the team to make it more competitive.

[Dipre]

Tapia

[mvp 78]

What was the alternative move?

 

DFA Reyes who Cora refuses to use.

[Nick]

The pressure is on Arroyo NOT TO GET INJURED again. At least not until either Chang or Story returns.

[mvp 78]

When you aren't a very good team, changing out the bench players doesn't matter.