Should Jackie Bradley Jr be traded?

[a700hitter]

He is doing worse than he did in 2014. He needs a trip to AAA.

[FredLynn]

The Red Sox should stick with Jackie Bradley.

 

The Red Sox should STICK the Mariners with Bradley

[DontCallMeUncleRico]

Jackie BADley

[cp176]

The Red Sox should STICK the Mariners with Bradley

 

lol

[kenmeister]

Does anybody think JBJ has any trade value whatsoever at this point?

[Yaz Fan Since 67]

I feel so badly for him, can't imagine what it's like to be going through this. It really is amazing, teams are just grooving 90 MPH fastballs and he is unable to hit them for whatever reason.

[S5Dewey]

I feel so badly for him' date=' can't imagine what it's like to be going through this. It really is amazing, teams are just grooving 90 MPH fastballs and he is unable to hit them for whatever reason.[/quote']

 

I agree. It's not like JBJ doesn't know what's going on. He obviously does, and it has to be frustrating for him. Players know when they're not contributing and being a professional he takes pride in his work. That's why I don't buy into the theory that he's just stubborn and won't change what he's doing. Right now he's getting a steady diet of fast balls, most of them up and in, and he needs to learn how to adjust his swing to cover that spot.

 

I never understood the title of this thread - Should JBJ be traded? - because there's no way the Sox can get anywhere near fair value for him, either at this moment or on the day the thread was created. It's in both parties best interest to work with him. I don't think he's at all a lost cause. He still has those spurts in his past when he's Mookie-esque in his hitting, which tells us that the talent is there.

[oldtimer]

I feel so badly for him' date=' can't imagine what it's like to be going through this. It really is amazing, teams are just grooving 90 MPH fastballs and he is unable to hit them for whatever reason.[/quote']

 

I also feel badly for him but this is a business and has to be run without a lot of sentimentality. They have tried hard with him and given him a lot of chances to improve. So far that hasn't happened and he only looks like his problems have become deeper than a mechanical issue. The Sox need to find an alternative to him and put this chapter to bed or it will haunt them going forward.

[jung]

Well its evident from continuing to insert JBJ in the lineup without any indication that he is actually trying to change anything that they are still in the "fight with JBJ's stubbornness about his swing" stage of events. They have to get past that first. But its pretty obvious that they are still making the effort.

 

He certainly would not bring back anything worth talking about at this point because I imagine the rest of the league knows this is where the Sox are with him. So for now, its keep trying though I would insert him in the lineup less at this point as inserting him in the lineup won't help with his stubbornness. God help him the first time he sees an actual breaking pitch again because pitchers are so completely without concern for him at this point that they are not even bothering to do more than just zip four seam after four seam past him and watch him flail helplessly.

Edited May 20, 2018 by jung

[cp176]

I agree. It's not like JBJ doesn't know what's going on. He obviously does, and it has to be frustrating for him. Players know when they're not contributing and being a professional he takes pride in his work. That's why I don't buy into the theory that he's just stubborn and won't change what he's doing. Right now he's getting a steady diet of fast balls, most of them up and in, and he needs to learn how to adjust his swing to cover that spot.

 

I never understood the title of this thread - Should JBJ be traded? - because there's no way the Sox can get anywhere near fair value for him, either at this moment or on the day the thread was created. It's in both parties best interest to work with him. I don't think he's at all a lost cause. He still has those spurts in his past when he's Mookie-esque in his hitting, which tells us that the talent is there.

 

I understand how you feel and I am sure that much of what JBJ is going through has to be mental. Ive always cheered for him and supported him. I also really don't think that the Red Sox have many options for him right now. Sorry for this but I can not get the fact that he is a lifetime .234 hitter out of my mind. He is no where near that figure now and it is very sad. We are all kind of stuck with each other for now but if he doesn't at least start to make some contact soon you have to think that his road in Boston might be coming to an end.

[Kimmi]

I feel so badly for him' date=' can't imagine what it's like to be going through this. It really is amazing, teams are just grooving 90 MPH fastballs and he is unable to hit them for whatever reason.[/quote']

 

I feel really badly for him too. I'm pulling for him.

[harmony]

The Red Sox should STICK the Mariners with Bradley

For the right price.

 

The Mariners just moved their center fielder to second base. I’d like to see Jackie Bradley work with Seattle hitting coach Edgar Martinez.

 

However, Bradley might not be able to break into an outfield of second-year players Mitch Haniger, Ben Gamel and Guillermo Heredia.

[Natick to NC]

.....it's time he is cooked.... it could start effecting attitude in Clubhouse ...time to demote JBJ until he has figured it out ....this may never be the case though .Time to strengthen other areas such as Catcher also ..a couple hits does not make up from the black hole there either .I hate to admit it but the JBJ era may be over . Edited May 20, 2018 by Natick to NC

[Maxbialystock]

I agree. It's not like JBJ doesn't know what's going on. He obviously does, and it has to be frustrating for him. Players know when they're not contributing and being a professional he takes pride in his work. That's why I don't buy into the theory that he's just stubborn and won't change what he's doing. Right now he's getting a steady diet of fast balls, most of them up and in, and he needs to learn how to adjust his swing to cover that spot.

 

I never understood the title of this thread - Should JBJ be traded? - because there's no way the Sox can get anywhere near fair value for him, either at this moment or on the day the thread was created. It's in both parties best interest to work with him. I don't think he's at all a lost cause. He still has those spurts in his past when he's Mookie-esque in his hitting, which tells us that the talent is there.

 

Agree on the no-trade thesis. As for the lost cause part, you could also be right. Ortiz went through a pretty big slump the season after Manny left or the one after that. In fact, hitting-wise, it might be the best Sox outfield in recent memory.

 

But, as oldtimer says, this is a business, and right now JBJ on the active roster is a bit of a liability because his hitting right now is actually worse than in 2014 when he claimed the centerfielder job after Ellsbury left and JBJ ended up in Pawtucket.

 

Do you remember that season? It's the one immediately after winning it all with Ellsbury in CF--you know, the Ellsbury who could hit, but not like the one who hit in 2011, and had wheels and was a decent centerfielder despite a weak arm. I would argue that right now Benintendi is pretty darn close to that Ellsbury, but the JBJ loyalists persist in saying that, compared to JBJ, he is an unmitigated disaster in CF and of course conveniently ignore that he can hit and get on base and contribute to the offense and is probably close to Ellsbury in CF in 2014.

 

So my thought is that sending JBJ down, if it is still possible, is the right move for him and the right move for the Sox because, contrary to the beliefs of the devout JBJ loyalists, an outfield of JDM, Beni, and Betts would actually be pretty darn good.

Edited May 20, 2018 by Maxbialystock

[S5Dewey]

Agree on the no-trade thesis. As for the lost cause part, you could also be right. Ortiz went through a pretty big slump the season after Manny left or the one after that. In fact, hitting-wise, it might be the best Sox outfield in recent memory.

 

But, as oldtimer says, this is a business, and right now JBJ on the active roster is a bit of a liability because his hitting right now is actually worse than in 2014 when he claimed the centerfielder job after Ellsbury left and JBJ ended up in Pawtucket.

 

Do you remember that season? It's the one immediately after winning it all with Ellsbury in CF--you know, the Ellsbury who could hit, but not like the one who hit in 2011, and had wheels and was a decent centerfielder despite a weak arm. I would argue that right now Benintendi is pretty darn close to that Ellsbury, but the JBJ loyalists persist in saying that, compared to JBJ, he is an unmitigated disaster in CF and of course conveniently ignore that he can hit and get on base and contribute to the offense and is probably close to Ellsbury in CF in 2014.

 

So my thought is that sending JBJ down, if it is still possible, is the right move for him and the right move for the Sox because, contrary to the beliefs of the devout JBJ loyalists, an outfield of JDM, Beni, and Betts would actually be pretty darn good.

NOBODY has said that. NOBODY. All that's said is that moving Beni to CF would weaken the OF in two positions. Which is true.

[Slasher9]

Red Sox record with JBj starting: 24-11. .685 winning %

Red Sox record without JBj starting: 7-4. .636 winning %

Edited May 20, 2018 by Slasher9

[oldtimer]

I understand how you feel and I am sure that much of what JBJ is going through has to be mental. Ive always cheered for him and supported him. I also really don't think that the Red Sox have many options for him right now. Sorry for this but I can not get the fact that he is a lifetime .234 hitter out of my mind. He is no where near that figure now and it is very sad. We are all kind of stuck with each other for now but if he doesn't at least start to make some contact soon you have to think that his road in Boston might be coming to an end.

 

I agree that we are devoid of capable field players in the minors with the exception of Pedey. My great hope is that Cole Brannen would learn to hit this year and be a strong candidate for center field as he has great speed and all the right defensive instincts. Instead, to date the kid has not been hitting in the low minors so kiss that idea goodbye at least for this year. Onlly way we get a replacement for JBJ is in the FA market, or we have to play Beni in center. Sending JBJ down for a while might help him realize his hold on major league status is fragile. It might be though that he is a depressive personality and that wouldn't help him either. Tough situation for him and the new coaches haven't helped so it must be a deep seated problem.

[mvp 78]

Right now, he’s hitting so bad that it makes no sense to trade him. Just platoon him until he turns it around.

[OH FOY]

Red Sox record with JBj starting: 24-11. .685 winning %

Red Sox record without JBj starting: 7-4. .636 winning %

 

Christ, its a No brainer then.

[FredLynn]

Right now, he’s hitting so bad that it makes no sense to trade him. Just platoon him until he turns it around.

 

He should be sent out to pasture at Pawtucket Farms

[Bellhorn04]

Time to strengthen other areas such as Catcher also ..a couple hits does not make up from the black hole there either .

 

Leon is 7 for his last 17. You'll be waving the pom-poms for him before you know it.

[Natick to NC]

Benny is not a disaster in CF he's just not who I'd play there ....Id play Mookie there ...id play Benny in RF and I'd rotate three players in LF ....Swihart ,JD ,Nuney ....Id trade Vaz and keep Swi and Sandy and roll with these players unless Realmutto can be had in an Erod or Pom trade .I think Mookie would be a fantastic CF he tracks the ball very well .Benny would be just fine in RF and Swihart ,Nuney and JD would do just fine In LF ....would we be downgraded ??? Maybe abit but not enough to squak at . Edited May 20, 2018 by Natick to NC

[CliffKlowers]

Right field requires the better defensive player ( more acreage, sq. ft. ). Right field also demands a stronger and accurate throwing arm.

[StephenCurry30]

fenway right field is very tough, I prefer keeping betts there

[Spudboy]

There is absolutely no reason to put Nunez in left.

[dgalehouse]

It is actually sad watching JBJ bat. Pitchers are not even trying to pitch him tough any more. Just throwing fastballs down the middle. And he can't catch up. Hard to understand just what is wrong.

[SoxHop]

It is actually sad watching JBJ bat. Pitchers are not even trying to pitch him tough any more. Just throwing fastballs down the middle. And he can't catch up. Hard to understand just what is wrong.

 

Seriously. I feel for the guy. Imagine what's going through his head.

[moonslav59]

It is actually sad watching JBJ bat. Pitchers are not even trying to pitch him tough any more. Just throwing fastballs down the middle. ...

 

If this were true, why is JBJ walking and getting HBP so often recently?

 

Last 8 games:

 

4 BB

2 HBP

 

(2 Hits)

[Natick to NC]

There is absolutely no reason to put Nunez in left.

 

Nuney is actually pretty good there and at third ...I don't understand.

[Natick to NC]

JBJ is not even watching the ball hit the bat ....dudes flying blind ....he is not even close to turning it around matter a fact I'd say he's definetly in a conversation to be dealt ....The Marlins have an interesting Reliever who's doing very well .... Edited May 20, 2018 by Natick to NC