Should Jackie Bradley Jr be traded?

[illinoisredsox]

Awesome story! Makes me love Yaz even more.

 

Yaz had a big advantage over Hawk (beyond talent). He was exposed to Ted Williams on a regular basis early on.

[Bellhorn04]

Because of racism.

 

Because of the actual incidence of crimes, I think.

 

If it was all about racism, the NBA would be the target.

[mvp 78]

Because of the actual incidence of crimes, I think.

 

If it was all about racism, the NBA would be the target.

 

Nah, racists believe the NBA isn't worth their time to think about. NBA players could all kneel for every anthem and nobody would care. Backwards white people get uppity whenever something happens in a football game though.

[jacksonianmarch]

It's not always as easy as just telling yourself, I need to concentrate on this aspect of my swing in order to improve.

 

I was always a less than decent hitter, but whenever anyone tried to help me with some advice, and I tried to think about changing, I got even worse.

 

Learning the tendencies of a pitcher is humongous for a hitter. A big league hitter can usually hit any pitcher if they know what’s coming. Knowing what a pitcher throws in certain counts effectively balances hitters against these guys with superhuman stuff.

[illinoisredsox]

Nah, racists believe the NBA isn't worth their time to think about. NBA players could all kneel for every anthem and nobody would care. Backwards white people get uppity whenever something happens in a football game though.

 

That's a racist statement in and of itself.

 

I really don't care what NFL players do for the anthem. I watch my 2 teams and maybe a little of the Sunday Night game (of course, the fact that we are inundated with the Bears and Packers here helps that along). Was doing that for years before the anthem stuff and will continue to do so. Funny how the networks never covered the anthem (except for the Super Bowl and maybe the other playoff games) until that all happened.

 

The NBA isn't worth my time to think about, but not because of racism, I just don't like it. I think the last time I watched a full NBA game was the finals when Jordan's Bulls won their first title (1991?). Since then, if you exclude the second half of Kobe Bryant's last game (and I watched that much only to see how many points he would end up with; I think he ended up with 60), my total viewership of NBA games might add up to one full game.

[illinoisredsox]

Learning the tendencies of a pitcher is humongous for a hitter. A big league hitter can usually hit any pitcher if they know what’s coming. Knowing what a pitcher throws in certain counts effectively balances hitters against these guys with superhuman stuff.

 

Ortiz was the master of this, especially late in his career. The pitcher might get him, but he was seldom completely fooled on a pitch. And if he was, it wasn't likely to happen again.

[User Name]

You know who's usually on a pitch before the pitcher even throws it that plays for this team? Mookie Betts. He's rarely outright fooled by anything anyone throws.

[oldtimer]

Back to Bradley. Cora now is saying Bradley had fundamental flaws in his plate approach and swing mechanics and has given him time off to try to work on correcting them. Many of us have been pointing this out, last year and this but it has taken Cora a while to react. He admits being a rookie manager he has to feel his way for the best way to handle a slumping player. Having Moreland in last night would have been a better approach than leaving Bradley in with his pathetic efforts at the plate.

 

Can Cora get through to Bradley? Haven't they been trying to do this all along? It should have been no revelation that JBJ needs help, but one would think he has been getting it without results. JBJ is a special case in that he is elite defensively and has shown periods of brilliant hitting. If he could regain some of the mojo then fine, otherwise JBJ has to be kept out of the lineup.

[moonslav59]

I'm a huge JBJ supporter. He's maybe my favorite current Sox player.

 

I'm all for this plan.

[StephenCurry30]

not sure what these nba comments have to do with jbj, but the nba has a huge fan base and is on a huge rise. LeBron is one of the most marketable stars in the world, not just America... its a great sport and the popularity of it will continue.

[Natick to NC]

I'll admit I had given up on JBJ ....hearing this makes me happy though and you know he's not on his own he's got people with him who are driving this home ....this is it For the player his tenure here is ending if he fails but with the off chance he learns something ??? I would be doing laps around my house yelling weeeeeee!!!!!!!!!!

[Natick to NC]

Love the NBA don't understand the hate really ...

[Bellhorn04]

There's no NBA hate going on here. mvp made a comment about baseball players being dumb and I kind of jumped on it just for something to jabber about. The topic went off in other directions. My fault really.

[FredLynn]

Back to Bradley. Cora now is saying Bradley had fundamental flaws in his plate approach and swing mechanics and has given him time off to try to work on correcting them. Many of us have been pointing this out, last year and this but it has taken Cora a while to react. He admits being a rookie manager he has to feel his way for the best way to handle a slumping player. Having Moreland in last night would have been a better approach than leaving Bradley in with his pathetic efforts at the plate.

 

Can Cora get through to Bradley? Haven't they been trying to do this all along? It should have been no revelation that JBJ needs help, but one would think he has been getting it without results. JBJ is a special case in that he is elite defensively and has shown periods of brilliant hitting. If he could regain some of the mojo then fine, otherwise JBJ has to be kept out of the lineup.

 

Bradley was offered help a while ago. I think most of the suggestions had to do with cutting down his swing. I remember his reaction: pure unadulterated stubborness. It was one of those "this has always how I have swung the bat, and this is always how I intend to swing it" comments on his part. I remember that distinctly and its one of the main reasons I think he should be benched and used only to spell a competent OF or as a late inning defensive replacement.

[User Name]

Bradley was offered help a while ago. I think most of the suggestions had to do with cutting down his swing. I remember his reaction: pure unadulterated stubborness. It was one of those "this has always how I have swung the bat, and this is always how I intend to swing it" comments on his part. I remember that distinctly and its one of the main reasons I think he should be benched and used only to spell a competent OF or as a late inning defensive replacement.

 

As I said in another thread, you can sort of maybe get away with screwing up one aspect (either physical or mental) of hitting through sheer talent and/or preparation, but not both. Bradley has a loopy-ass swing, and he has no idea what pitchers are throwing him. He needs to get his swing and his head right. I don't see it happening in-season.

[cp176]

It's always looked to me like it is a kind of an accident when he hits the ball. I've never been exactly sure if he is seeing the ball or not. Contrast his head location at contact most of the time with Martinez's. It just looks to me that he comes out of most pitches before any kind of contact. I like him and here's hoping for the best for him!

[oldtimer]

It's always looked to me like it is a kind of an accident when he hits the ball. I've never been exactly sure if he is seeing the ball or not. Contrast his head location at contact most of the time with Martinez's. It just looks to me that he comes out of most pitches before any kind of contact. I like him and here's hoping for the best for him!

 

With JD, you get the feeling he resets himself after each pitch and is always thinking about what will come next. He is the kind of hitter that doesn't go into prolonged slumps. JBJ has the athletic ability to be a hitter but isn't. I have pointed some things out about his swing mechanics and so have others, so some of his problems are obvious. Others are probably in his head. I seriously doubt he will come around and that is too bad for him and the team.

[OH FOY]

He's got 1850 at bats with 519 K's in his career. With 59 career HRS. Every 3.5 at bats he Strikeouts, and HR's every 31 at bats. Bad ratio. Makes a useless non-productive out. Instead trying to put the ball in play. That's why at this point he has a .235 career batting average.

3.5 Holy s*** Great Sluggers don't strike out at that rate. If they did, don't HR every 31 at bats.

He thinks he's Willie Stargell, he should be thinking he's Willie Davis.

Edited May 11, 2018 by OH FOY!

[S5Dewey]

He's got 1850 at bats with 519 K's in his career. With 59 career HRS. Every 3.5 at bats he Strikeouts, and HR's every 31 at bats. Bad ratio. Makes a useless non-productive out. Instead trying to put the ball in play. That's why at this point he has a .235 career batting average.

3.5 Holy s*** Great Sluggers don't strike out at that rate. If they did, don't HR every 31 at bats.

He thinks he's Willie Stargell, he should be thinking he's Willie Davis.

 

Ya...but ... didn't I read that over the past few years the only player with a higher OPS than JDM is Mike Trout? I'll take that along with the K's.

[Slasher9]

Ya...but ... didn't I read that over the past few years the only player with a higher OPS than JDM is Mike Trout? I'll take that along with the K's.

 

i think he was referring to JBj?

[mvp 78]

Should JDM be traded?

[Slasher9]

should jdm be traded?

 

fake news!

[notin]

Ya...but ... didn't I read that over the past few years the only player with a higher OPS than JDM is Mike Trout? I'll take that along with the K's.

 

That isn't true, but it isn't far off.

 

From 2014-2017 (4 seasons), JD Martinez ranks seventh among all qualified hitters in MLB in OPS. His .936 OPS trails only Trout, Votto, Goldschmidt, Stanton, Harper and Big Papi. If you only look at 2015-2017, his OPS is a little higher (.943), but he still trails the same six names. (Apparently Papi was still considered a qualified hitter over that stretch.)

 

Not second, but still impressive. Especially for a guy who was once released from a last place team while still making minimum wage...

[OH FOY]

In his career he has a .663 OPS with RISP. Is that good? Old timer here. JBJ that is.

I see Mike Trout has a .978 OPS with RISP in his career.

Pretty big difference ...No?

Edited May 11, 2018 by OH FOY!

[Bellhorn04]

In his career he has a .663 OPS with RISP. Is that good? Old timer here.

 

Actually .787 with RISP, .663 with bases empty. Your old timer eyes let you down.

[mvp 78]

In his career he has a .663 OPS with RISP. Is that good? Old timer here.

 

That's lower than his career OPS which shows that he's a CHOKER.

[OH FOY]

Maybe I'm confused with bases empty, how could a Runner be in scoring position? There is no Runner. Maybe they count being at the plate a potential run? With bases empty.

If that's the case put both together, for the average. I guess.

So it's .725 OPS together. Is that good?

Edited May 11, 2018 by OH FOY!

[Bellhorn04]

Maybe I'm confused with bases empty, how could a Runner be in scoring position? There is no Runner.

 

.787 with RISP

.663 with bases empty

 

Not sure what you're looking at.

[OH FOY]

Yeah went to another site got 3 years of JBJ 2015-17, his OPS, is .872 with RISP. That seems to me to be much better. Sorry.

[Bellhorn04]

No problem.