Should Jackie Bradley Jr be traded?

[OH FOY]

Last 28 days JBJ is hitting .100, he's not that bad. 30K's in 70 Plate appearances. Damn.

[moonslav59]

Lat 14 days OBP (25+ PAs)

.444 Betts

.443 Beni

.400 JD

.400 Leon

.364 Moreland

.294 Bogey

.280 JBJ

.267 Nunez

.224 HRam

.224 Devers

.194 Vaz

 

 

[Kimmi]

Again that stat 2 posts up just shows how deceiving the WAR stat is. This is not basketball where a defender can make a difference every trip down the court. JBJ simply does not have the opportunity to show his defense by making difficult plays nearly as often' date=' I will never believe he takes a hit away a week that other CF don't take away. Again that's a function of opportunities and respect for the other ML center fielders who can all make great plays, not a knock on JBJ.[/quote']

 

Last year, the best CF in terms of defensive runs saved was Buxton at +24. The worst was Span at -27. Those are the extremes, but the difference between those two is 51 runs or 5 games. Saying that Jackie can save the team 3 games defensively over a below average defender is not a stretch.

[Kimmi]

Irrelevant

 

Not really. At the very least, this shows that the team is not losing or 'suffering' because JBJ is in the lineup.

[cp176]

JBJ is really feeble at the plate right now and he needs to own that. I hope that he is. He got a great ovation from the fans yesterday after he got his hit. Not sure how he took that. If he comes off as being arrogant or stubborn with respect to his current pathetic play, fans will eventually turn and he will be gone. He probably still has us - we all want him to succeed for him as well as the team. If he gets through this crap situation and still comes off as someone who likes playing here, he will survive .

[FredLynn]

Not really. At the very least, this shows that the team is not losing or 'suffering' because JBJ is in the lineup.

 

Its irrelevant because that record is impacted by many other factors besides him being in the lineup. If we played the same team with the same SPs with the same lineups for each team you have then controlled for many more variables. Of course, that never happens, which makes using our record with him in the lineup NEARLY irrelevant.

[harmony]

It might not hurt to send Jackie Bradley down to Triple A.

 

Bradley has posted a .165/.267/.252/.519 line in 39 games this year.

 

Last May the Seattle Mariners sent catcher Mike Zunino down to the minors after the former first-round pick had posted a .167/.250/.236/.486 line in his first 24 games. In 100 games after his recall on May 23, Zunino posted a .270/.349/.571/.921 the rest of the season.

 

Bradley and Zunino are defensively gifted streaky hitters born a year apart and drafted in the first round a year apart out of Southeastern Conference universities. Bradley entered this season with three years and 150 days of MLB service while Zunino had three years and 160 days of MLB service.

[Kimmi]

Its irrelevant because that record is impacted by many other factors besides him being in the lineup. If we played the same team with the same SPs with the same lineups for each team you have then controlled for many more variables. Of course, that never happens, which makes using our record with him in the lineup NEARLY irrelevant.

 

Of course there are many other factors impacting the game. This is exactly why I don't like to blame any game on a specific player, play, or managerial decision.

 

That said, my point is that having Jackie in the line up has not created a record that's worse than when he's not in the line up.

[Kimmi]

It might not hurt to send Jackie Bradley down to Triple A.

 

Bradley has posted a .165/.267/.252/.519 line in 39 games this year.

 

Last May the Seattle Mariners sent catcher Mike Zunino down to the minors after the former first-round pick had posted a .167/.250/.236/.486 line in his first 24 games. In 100 games after his recall on May 23, Zunino posted a .270/.349/.571/.921 the rest of the season.

 

Bradley and Zunino are defensively gifted streaky hitters born a year apart and drafted in the first round a year apart out of Southeastern Conference universities. Bradley entered this season with three years and 150 days of MLB service while Zunino had three years and 160 days of MLB service.

 

I think Jackie would probably benefit from some time in AAA, just to clear his head, if nothing else.

 

That said, I'd stick with him a little longer before making that decision.

[Natick to NC]

It might not hurt to send Jackie Bradley down to Triple A.

 

Bradley has posted a .165/.267/.252/.519 line in 39 games this year.

 

Last May the Seattle Mariners sent catcher Mike Zunino down to the minors after the former first-round pick had posted a .167/.250/.236/.486 line in his first 24 games. In 100 games after his recall on May 23, Zunino posted a .270/.349/.571/.921 the rest of the season.

 

Bradley and Zunino are defensively gifted streaky hitters born a year apart and drafted in the first round a year apart out of Southeastern Conference universities. Bradley entered this season with three years and 150 days of MLB service while Zunino had three years and 160 days of MLB service.

 

Really would hope this is what they decide to do with JBJ ...Devers and JBJ are my favorite players both have had a rough time this year .JBJ needs to slow things down to a full STOP ....then learn from the beginning the little things about batting again ...I believe in him .I get pissed at him like everyone but I believe he's a special player more than most even now .

Edited May 21, 2018 by Natick to NC

[FredLynn]

Of course there are many other factors impacting the game. This is exactly why I don't like to blame any game on a specific player, play, or managerial decision.

 

That said, my point is that having Jackie in the line up has not created a record that's worse than when he's not in the line up.

 

Its possible that his presence caused us to lose games would would have won had a better hitter been in the lineup-because the factors such as the quality of the opposing pitcher or team may have been less competitive when he was in the lineup than when he wasn't. Many other factors could also play a role. Who on the Sox was resting when he played, for example. Unless you correct for the variables its impossible to know the impact of playing him. I do know this: he is a disaster with a bat in his hands and its likely his presence has cost us runs, if not games.

[notin]

Its possible that his presence caused us to lose games would would have won had a better hitter been in the lineup-because the factors such as the quality of the opposing pitcher or team may have been less competitive when he was in the lineup than when he wasn't. Many other factors could also play a role. Who on the Sox was resting when he played, for example. Unless you correct for the variables its impossible to know IP ththe impact of playing him. I do know this: he is a disaster with a bat in his hands and its likely his presence has cost us runs, if not games.

 

 

Its also likely his presence in the field has prevented runs and preserved games. Probably just ss many as his batting has cost.

 

The Sox are playing .680 baseball and among the best offenses in the league. Not likely they'd be doing much better with another hitter. Especially since their defense doesn't dazzle anyone by any measure...

[moonslav59]

I'm thinking we should start sitting HRam more often, and if that means JBJ gets more playing time than recently, so be it.

[notin]

I'm thinking we should start sitting HRam more often, and if that means JBJ gets more playing time than recently, so be it.

 

Hanley was terrific in April, but he has slowed down considerably.

 

The Sox best all around lineup right now probably has Moreland at 1B, Bradley in CF and Martinez at DH. (And Holt at 2B, which seems odd for me to say.)

 

At least against RHP, that is the best one.

[kenmeister]

Hanley was terrific in April, but he has slowed down considerably.

 

The Sox best all around lineup right now probably has Moreland at 1B, Bradley in CF and Martinez at DH. (And Holt at 2B, which seems odd for me to say.)

 

At least against RHP, that is the best one.

 

When Pedroia returns to reclaim 2B, will that change to Moreland at 1B, Holt in left, Beni in center, Betts in right, and Martinez at DH?

[notin]

When Pedroia returns to reclaim 2B, will that change to Moreland at 1B, Holt in left, Beni in center, Betts in right, and Martinez at DH?

 

I hope not. I think it moves Holt to the bench and Pedroia to 2B as an easy switch.

 

The options to make room for Pedroia are Bradley (or Holt) to Pawtucket, Nunez to DL, or Swihart to another team. The latter two strike me as more likely...

[OH FOY]

The way they are Rehabbing Pedey, you wont see him till AS break. 1 game, 4 days off, 2 games back-to-back 3 days off. 1 game DH. Probably play tonight. Edited May 22, 2018 by OH FOY!

[notin]

The way they are Rehabbing Pedey, you wont see him till AS break.

 

And if they continue to win and stay with NY, there is no reason to rush him.

[OH FOY]

Sounds good, but they play 51 games with 4 days off till AS Break, this is important part of schedule. Think they will need Pedey sooner than later. Edited May 22, 2018 by OH FOY!

[moonslav59]

When Pedroia returns to reclaim 2B, will that change to Moreland at 1B, Holt in left, Beni in center, Betts in right, and Martinez at DH?

 

By the time Pedey returns, Holt might be slumping, but as of now, he looks like he belongs in the top 9, if we go by offense only.

[illinoisredsox]

The way they are Rehabbing Pedey, you wont see him till AS break. 1 game, 4 days off, 2 games back-to-back 3 days off. 1 game DH. Probably play tonight.

 

He can only rehab for 20 days (not games). Then he either has to be activated or put back on the DL. The last day to do either is June 3.

[mvp 78]

He can only rehab for 20 days (not games). Then he either has to be activated or put back on the DL. The last day to do either is June 3.

 

He'll be ready to go by then. I bet Pedey is chomping at the bit to be with the big club.

[moonslav59]

He can only rehab for 20 days (not games). Then he either has to be activated or put back on the DL. The last day to do either is June 3.

 

Yes, June 3rd this might happen:

 

1) Swihart is traded

2) Nunez is placed on the DL (my choice)

3) JBJ is sent to the minors

4) Holt or JBJ are traded

[notin]

Yes, June 3rd this might happen:

 

1) Swihart is traded

2) Nunez is placed on the DL (my choice)

3) JBJ is sent to the minors

4) Holt or JBJ are traded

 

Ranked in order of likelhood (my opinion)

 

2, 1, 3, 4.

[mvp 78]

Yes, June 3rd this might happen:

 

1) Swihart is traded

2) Nunez is placed on the DL (my choice)

3) JBJ is sent to the minors

4) Holt or JBJ are traded

 

Hanley DFA'd.

[notin]

Hanley DFA'd.

 

Possible, although I think less likely. Especially less likely than Nunez going on the DL, which allows the Sox to keep everyone for a while and not deplete any depth. (The only reason they might is because Swihart demanded a trade.)

 

Of course, Nunez to the DL is a temporary solution. At some poiint, they are going to activate him.

[mvp 78]

Possible, although I think less likely. Especially less likely than Nunez going on the DL, which allows the Sox to keep everyone for a while and not deplete any depth. (The only reason they might is because Swihart demanded a trade.)

 

Of course, Nunez to the DL is a temporary solution. At some poiint, they are going to activate him.

 

It won't happen. It's just what I wanted to happen in the offseason.

[notin]

It won't happen. It's just what I wanted to happen in the offseason.

 

Well by using that logic, shouldn't "Pedroia gets traded" be on your list?

[mvp 78]

Well by using that logic, shouldn't "Pedroia gets traded" be on your list?

 

Nah. I haven't mentioned trading Pedroia in a while. Need to save my material so it doesn't get overused.

[notin]

Really another longshot might be Devers gets demoted.

 

As much as we have made of Bradley's (4 for his last 56) struggles, Devers' slump (8 for his last 57) is fairly comparable. Both players have options.

 

And Devers has been less of a defenisve contributor.

 

I doubt it happens, but it certainly is an option. Of course, if Nunez is still somewhat gimpy, placing him on the DL is certainly the frontrunner. Unless someone else gets more seriously hurt between now and Pedroia's return...