Should Jackie Bradley Jr be traded?

[Natick to NC]

This is ******** right ? Weei saying just the opposite ???

[Natick to NC]

That was my reaction too. I just heard it on the radio. The local DJ is a big Sox fan and has always gotten his facts straight in the past. But I'll see if I can find a link.

 

Fuuuuuuck that's dumb why the hell would they sit him now ???

[Natick to NC]

This is absolute ******** ...we are playing two of the absolute worst catchers ever and optioning JBJ ??? Cora can't be this stupid ??? My God just cut Sandy Leon !!!!!!!

[S5Dewey]

I've exhausted all my usual suspects to find more info on it but cant. However, the DJ just doubled down on it doing a short blurb about it on his show. So I don't know what to say.

[S5Dewey]

Even more odd, JBJ is slated to bat 8th tonight and play CF. Maybe the guy blew it. Sorry... what will happen will happen, I guess.

[Natick to NC]

Even more odd, JBJ is slated to bat 8th tonight and play CF. Maybe the guy blew it. Sorry... what will happen will happen, I guess.

 

Ok hey that is fine ...lots of info rolling around .

[mvp 78]

This is absolute ******** ...we are playing two of the absolute worst catchers ever and optioning JBJ ??? Cora can't be this stupid ??? My God just cut Sandy Leon !!!!!!!

 

Optioning JBJ? Wut?

[Maxbialystock]

First reports are usually wrong, and I'm sure this one is. I personally would make that move, but do not see it based on what we are seeing lately. I think Cora actually said JBJ would not be optioned when Pedey came up.

[mvp 78]

New word at 5:00 pm 5/23 on JBJ.

 

Cora has said that JBJ will be optioned to Pawtucket when Pedey comes back.

 

NESN is saying the exact opposite

[moonslav59]

This is absolute ******** ...we are playing two of the absolute worst catchers ever and optioning JBJ ??? Cora can't be this stupid ??? My God just cut Sandy Leon !!!!!!!

 

1) It's DD's call with input from Cora.

2) It's not confirmed.

3) I thought you'd be happy we kept your guy Swihart and sent down the guy you've been bashing almost as much as "Fat Sandy".

4) Sending JBJ down will likely just be temporary, assuming the rumor is true.

5) My guess is, we DL Nunez or Swihart and postpone the decision for at least 10 more days.

[Maxbialystock]

You guys get a lot of mileage from unsubstantiated bs. JBJ ain’t going down.

[Maxbialystock]

New word at 5:00 pm 5/23 on JBJ.

 

Cora has said that JBJ will be optioned to Pawtucket when Pedey comes back.

 

Wrong, wrong, wrong!

 

Where did you come up with this crap?

[S5Dewey]

Wrong, wrong, wrong!

 

Where did you come up with this crap?

 

Did you read the thread? It'll answer your question and explain what happened.

[mvp 78]

I've exhausted all my usual suspects to find more info on it but cant. However, the DJ just doubled down on it doing a short blurb about it on his show. So I don't know what to say.

 

Hang the dj hang the dj hang the dj.

[Slasher9]

2017: JBJ winning % 571, Sox winning % 574

2016: JBJ winning % 570, Sox winning % 574

2015: JBJ winning % 595, Sox winning % 481

2014: JBJ winning % 488, Sox winning % 438

2013: JBJ winning % 676, Sox winning % 599

 

2017 with JBj starting .580 (not 571)

4 out of 5 years the Sox are better with JBj starting in CF.

Actually 5 out of 6 if we include 2018....

[Slasher9]

Hang the dj hang the dj hang the dj.

I used to like Stephen until he went bat s*** cray

[mvp 78]

I used to like Stephen until he went bat s*** cray

 

He's the worst.

[mvp 78]

2017 with JBj starting .580 (not 571)

4 out of 5 years the Sox are better with JBj starting in CF.

Actually 5 out of 6 if we include 2018....

 

I just did games played.

[notin]

I just did games played.

 

That includes 41 games he played as a sub that resulted in only 24 plate appearances

[mvp 78]

That includes 41 games he played as a sub that resulted in only 24 plate appearances

 

So? I thought his glove was good enough that one play would make all the difference?

[Slasher9]

I just did games played.

 

sorry. has to be games started. FAKE NEWS!

[Slasher9]

So? I thought his glove was good enough that one play would make all the difference?

 

the discussion is whether or not he should be the starting CFer.

the discussion is whether having a light (or non) hitting #9 batter with excellent D skills causes L's.

starts matter. some people will try and tell you starts are apples. but they aren't apples. they are starts.

[mvp 78]

sorry. has to be games started. FAKE NEWS!

 

I ain't got time for that!

[Yaz Fan Since 67]

What a play by JBJ. To say he does this once a week does not mesh with reality but damned that was tremendous. Now that his bat is heating up maybe just maybe he has turned a corner?

[Bellhorn04]

What a play by JBJ. To say he does this once a week does not mesh with reality but damned that was tremendous. Now that his bat is heating up maybe just maybe he has turned a corner?

 

There are some positive signs with the bat. I think he's going to be okay.

[royf19]

For what it's worth, in JBJ's last seven games when he's batted, he is hitting .304 (7 for 23) with three doubles, one triple and a .882 OPS. With his average as low as it's been, it's going to take awhile for it to become respectable, but maybe he finally has turned the corner with his hitting.

[cp176]

JBJ made some good solid contact yesterday. Liked seeing him go to the opposite field. If he starts to hit just a little, we all will be able to breathe easy.

[jung]

For what it's worth, in JBJ's last seven games when he's batted, he is hitting .304 (7 for 23) with three doubles, one triple and a .882 OPS. With his average as low as it's been, it's going to take awhile for it to become respectable, but maybe he finally has turned the corner with his hitting.

 

Until JBJ has a quieter swing there is not much chance of him turning some hitting corner. He is streaky at the plate for a reason. He is streaky because his swing has too many moving parts and there are simply not that many periods during the course of a season when he can get all that stuff moving enough in unison to actually hit the baseball.

 

This time, it appears that he was carrying his front shoulder too high into the swing causing his head to tilt. He is dipping his front shoulder now to get it out of the way. But if history is any teacher before long he will be dipping it too far and end up with another swing problem. It would be better if JBJ simply had his front shoulder in the right place instead of having to dip it into the swing. But then he would not be JBJ.

 

The problem for JBJ at the plate is that he has both a noisy or busy swing and he does not realize that a hitter's swing is always changing if he does not pay attention to it. His lower body is noisy. His upper body is noisy. His head is all over the place. JBJ stubbornly goes 100 AB's without acknowledging to himself that he has worked his swing into yet another rut. Then again, if his swing were not so busy it might be easier for him realize the changes that are occurring.

 

He is 28 years old folks. This is him. If he can crawl back to being a .250 hitter with a 750 OPS that would be great. That would also be better than his lifetime .235 with 715 OPS. But there is a ton that the Sox can get away with this year because the quality of ball being passed off as MLB this year is a disgrace. So even his lifetime slash would be fine combined with his defense. So, I would not trade him and I would give him playing time as long as he can at least get back to his lifetime numbers. This is still a team that depends on its rotation to be its strength relative to the teams it plays. So a ++ defensive CFer is a big deal for this team as is a + Shortstop and a + Catcher would be nice.

[Elktonnick]

Until JBJ has a quieter swing there is not much chance of him turning some hitting corner. He is streaky at the plate for a reason. He is streaky because his swing has too many moving parts and there are simply not that many periods during the course of a season when he can get all that stuff moving enough in unison to actually hit the baseball.

 

This time, it appears that he was carrying his front shoulder too high into the swing causing his head to tilt. He is dipping his front shoulder now to get it out of the way. But if history is any teacher before long he will be dipping it too far and end up with another swing problem. It would be better if JBJ simply had his front shoulder in the right place instead of having to dip it into the swing. But then he would not be JBJ.

 

The problem for JBJ at the plate is that he has both a noisy or busy swing and he does not realize that a hitter's swing is always changing if he does not pay attention to it. His lower body is noisy. His upper body is noisy. His head is all over the place. JBJ stubbornly goes 100 AB's without acknowledging to himself that he has worked his swing into yet another rut. Then again, if his swing were not so busy it might be easier for him realize the changes that are occurring.

 

He is 28 years old folks. This is him. If he can crawl back to being a .250 hitter with a 750 OPS that would be great. That would also be better than his lifetime .235 with 715 OPS. But there is a ton that the Sox can get away with this year because the quality of ball being passed off as MLB this year is a disgrace. So even his lifetime slash would be fine combined with his defense. So, I would not trade him and I would give him playing time as long as he can at least get back to his lifetime numbers. This is still a team that depends on its rotation to be its strength relative to the teams it plays. So a ++ defensive CFer is a big deal for this team as is a + Shortstop and a + Catcher would be nice.

 

I appreciate your excellent analysis of JBJ's swing. I also notice that when he is going bad his swing gets very long. When he shortens the swing he gets quieter and makes better contact. In any case, I think DFAing Ramirez should quiet the trade Bradley talk. With HR on the rooster there was always the issue of trading Moreland's defense for Bradley's. Now that Ramirez is gone that should no longer be an issue.

[FredLynn]

Until JBJ has a quieter swing there is not much chance of him turning some hitting corner. He is streaky at the plate for a reason. He is streaky because his swing has too many moving parts and there are simply not that many periods during the course of a season when he can get all that stuff moving enough in unison to actually hit the baseball.

 

This time, it appears that he was carrying his front shoulder too high into the swing causing his head to tilt. He is dipping his front shoulder now to get it out of the way. But if history is any teacher before long he will be dipping it too far and end up with another swing problem. It would be better if JBJ simply had his front shoulder in the right place instead of having to dip it into the swing. But then he would not be JBJ.

 

The problem for JBJ at the plate is that he has both a noisy or busy swing and he does not realize that a hitter's swing is always changing if he does not pay attention to it. His lower body is noisy. His upper body is noisy. His head is all over the place. JBJ stubbornly goes 100 AB's without acknowledging to himself that he has worked his swing into yet another rut. Then again, if his swing were not so busy it might be easier for him realize the changes that are occurring.

 

He is 28 years old folks. This is him. If he can crawl back to being a .250 hitter with a 750 OPS that would be great. That would also be better than his lifetime .235 with 715 OPS. But there is a ton that the Sox can get away with this year because the quality of ball being passed off as MLB this year is a disgrace. So even his lifetime slash would be fine combined with his defense. So, I would not trade him and I would give him playing time as long as he can at least get back to his lifetime numbers. This is still a team that depends on its rotation to be its strength relative to the teams it plays. So a ++ defensive CFer is a big deal for this team as is a + Shortstop and a + Catcher would be nice.

 

Very good analysis. When you watch JD at the plate and compare him to Bradley the difference is striking. Remy during one of the broadcasts asked the production crew to put them on the screen side by side but I don't think that ever happened. JD's head follows the ball all the way to contact; Bradley does not. Like you said, he isn't going to change, partly because he has had too much practice repeating bad habits and partly because he is resistant to coaching. For the past week he is batting .300 with an OPS over .800, but I don't see that lasting for long. His swing has too many mechanical flaws.