Spring Training game thread: Week of Feb 21

[drewski6]

Cedanne , mayer, duran, contreras all look particularly primed to me.  Even the guys with less than stellar stat lines like Abreu and Kc have hit a few line-outs.

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

5 minutes ago, drewski6 said:

Cedanne , mayer, duran, contreras all look particularly primed to me.  Even the guys with less than stellar stat lines like Abreu and Kc have hit a few line-outs.

Could be; they're all either primetime or breakout hopefuls.

I hate to be the voice of treason, but everyone realizes most Spring Training pitchers are stretching out workloads or trying new pitches in game situations this month?

Spilly on MLB Sirius was telling a ST story when he and his teammates battered around Brad Penny, who was averaging 87 mph that day. Two weeks later the regular season began and they faced Penny again... who smoked them with heaters at 97 mph.

[mvp 78]

34 minutes ago, drewski6 said:

I want to reiterate: we are looking strong guys.

Yup, it's THAT point in the spring where we are all overly high on the Red Sox because we just want baseball to be back. 

[mvp 78]

34 minutes ago, drewski6 said:

Cedanne , mayer, duran, contreras all look particularly primed to me.  Even the guys with less than stellar stat lines like Abreu and Kc have hit a few line-outs.

Contreras: 2 HR, 1563 OPS, great defense, great clubhouse presence

Alonso: 2 HR, 961 OPS, bad defense, dullard

[JoeBrady]

2 hours ago, notin said:

Romy will likely assume his normal role platooning, most likely with Mayer but if an OF gets hurt,

I think IKF gets all the RH IF ABs, even assuming they occasionally platoon Mayer.  I think Romy becomes a platoon DH/emergency IF.

[notin]

1 hour ago, Hugh2 said:

Well yeah, like if Duran goes down Yoshida because your DH.  I don't think this is an apples to apples comparision because you can slide Yoshida into that everyday role while Eaton is a utility guy who is a better fit for that role and thus this roster. 

Duran can be moved to the OF into LF or CF if Anthony or Rafaela get injured, with Yoshida taking over at DH.  If Abreu gets injured, Duran to LF, Anthony to RF, and Yoshida to DH…

[notin]

2 hours ago, mvp 78 said:

Yeah, because in that case Eaton would be playing the OF and you'd one of the other guys DH'ing (Duran). Eaton had a 102 wRC+ and can field all 3 OF positions. Masa can only play a very poor LF and is projected to have a 98-111 wRC+. I'd rather have Eaton on the roster if I'm the manager based on his skillset. 

Ah, comparing projections to actual statistics to support your argument.  Darth Harmony has taught you well, young sith.

Now why not try again using Yoshida’s 109 career wRC+ against Eaton’s projected wRC+ of 66 to 89?  Heck why not use Eaton’s career wRC+ as opposed to his from last year?

No amount of your Dark Side Statistical Fudging will make Eaton a better hitter than Yoshida.  Look into your heart.  You know it to be true…

 

[notin]

3 hours ago, Hugh2 said:

Eaton is right handed, he's capable of playing multiple positions, and he has plus speed.  

If we were comparing them as DH's I could see liking Yoshida but someone like Eaton is 10000% a better fit for this roster. 

Eaton has his uses and shouldn’t be DFAd.  But so does Yoshida. And since Eaton has an option remaining, he can be sent to Worcester, and the Sox can keep both of them…

[notin]

51 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

Contreras: 2 HR, 1563 OPS, great defense, great clubhouse presence

Alonso: 2 HR, 961 OPS, bad defense, dullard

Also, Contreras runs like an adult human being.  Alonso runs like an over-caffeinated one year old.

Note:  If you do have access to a one year old child, do not give him or her caffeine, as it is very bad for them.  If you feel the need to see how an over-caffeinated one year old runs, just watch Pete Alonso try to leg out a double…

[mvp 78]

11 minutes ago, notin said:

Also, Contreras runs like an adult human being.  Alonso runs like an over-caffeinated one year old.

Note:  If you do have access to a one year old child, do not give him or her caffeine, as it is very bad for them.  If you feel the need to see how an over-caffeinated one year old runs, just watch Pete Alonso try to leg out a double…

I've already said that Contreras will out fWAR Alonso the next 2 years and I'm more confident about it by the day. 

[drewski6]

57 minutes ago, notin said:

Ah, comparing projections to actual statistics to support your argument.  Darth Harmony has taught you well, young sith.

 

 

look if I compare Luke Raleys June only OPS from 2 years ago , to Roman Anthonys projected OPS this season, then clearly the 2 are completely interchangeable.  

[drewski6]

30 minutes ago, notin said:

Also, Contreras runs like an adult human being.  Alonso runs like an over-caffeinated one year old.

Note:  If you do have access to a one year old child, do not give him or her caffeine, as it is very bad for them.  If you feel the need to see how an over-caffeinated one year old runs, just watch Pete Alonso try to leg out a double…

They had to reteach Zion Williamson running fundamentals.  Some dudes turn their knees out or their ankles in, some dudes just waddle.  Casas runs poorly also.

[drewski6]

20 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

I've already said that Contreras will out fWAR Alonso the next 2 years and I'm more confident about it by the day. 

Im rooting for you to be right, here.

[Duran Is The Man]

2 hours ago, 5GoldGlovesOF,75 said:

Could be; they're all either primetime or breakout hopefuls.

I hate to be the voice of treason, but everyone realizes most Spring Training pitchers are stretching out workloads or trying new pitches in game situations this month?

Spilly on MLB Sirius was telling a ST story when he and his teammates battered around Brad Penny, who was averaging 87 mph that day. Two weeks later the regular season began and they faced Penny again... who smoked them with heaters at 97 mph.

How does this explain the fact that Wong absolutely sucks ass?

[drewski6]

16 minutes ago, Duran Is The Man said:

How does this explain the fact that Wong absolutely sucks ass?

Maybe he should switch to tennis.

[mvp 78]

10 minutes ago, drewski6 said:

Maybe he should switch to tennis.

No, that's Duran. 🎾

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

37 minutes ago, Duran Is The Man said:

How does this explain the fact that Wong absolutely sucks ass?

Last vestige of the worst trade in the history of baseball in our lifetimes.

[Duran Is The Man]

16 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

No, that's Duran. 🎾

That’s it. I’m kicking you out. 😡😡😡

[drewski6]

Just now, Duran Is The Man said:

That’s it. I’m kicking you out. 😡😡😡

Im not going to sub in for him and chat about birds with you, so be careful here. Ill chat about dogs with you, but not birds.  Unless its this dancing parrot that keeps coming up on my social media feed....He gets after it.

[drewski6]

2 minutes ago, drewski6 said:

Im not going to sub in for him and chat about birds with you, so be careful here. Ill chat about dogs with you, but not birds.  Unless its this dancing parrot that keeps coming up on my social media feed....He gets after it.

Make sure you turn the sound on. Found the bird I was talking about. I can watch this all day.

[vegasbob]

That brilliant video of the pig getting fed made me realize that Wong has apparently lost any mojo he might have recovered this offseason and will not be around for long.

K. Campbell will be around for awhile longer but not at Fenway, more assuredly Worcester.  A few line drives, so far ??   He has a long way to go but can always tell his grandkids one day that he started the 2025 season for the Red Sox , not so much after.  

If the WBC is the true "WORLD" championship series then what is the  set of games played in October/November among a very limited group of American and one Canadian team ? Definitely not the World Series.

[vegasbob]

Masa's fate will only be determined at mid season when the pill of his contract will be more easily swallowed.

Yoshida will either come into some role (DH or bench PH) as a result of another player's injury, lack of performance or illegal betting scandal .  Yoshi will then either perform well and create some value or will fail , or even get injured arm pumping to 1st base on a DP rollover and eliminate himself.   He will not be carried into the 2027 non-season regardless of his contract.  

I hope he gets some AB's and hits well in early 2026 increasing the Sox output and options for this pleasant man.

[drewski6]

42 minutes ago, vegasbob said:

That brilliant video of the pig getting fed made me realize that Wong has apparently lost any mojo he might have recovered this offseason and will not be around for long.

K. Campbell will be around for awhile longer but not at Fenway, more assuredly Worcester.  A few line drives, so far ??   He has a long way to go but can always tell his grandkids one day that he started the 2025 season for the Red Sox , not so much after.  

If the WBC is the true "WORLD" championship series then what is the  set of games played in October/November among a very limited group of American and one Canadian team ? Definitely not the World Series.

Wait a minute.  Sir, are you implying that the USA is not the world universe?  That anywhere or anybody else matters? Are you sure its the right climate for that kind of talk?  Dont find yourself on a list, bro

[Hugh2]

3 hours ago, notin said:

Eaton has his uses and shouldn’t be DFAd.  But so does Yoshida. And since Eaton has an option remaining, he can be sent to Worcester, and the Sox can keep both of them…

Ok how about this.  If an outfielder goes down, I’d rather have Yoshida slide into an everyday DH role than Eaton, but as a bench player Eaton is a better choice with more versatility. 

[moonslav59]

10 hours ago, Old Red said:

I think teams already know what Masa can, and can not do, so I don’t think the WBC showing will have any effect either way.

I agree. He could go 20 for 25 and maybe some team might pay $4 or 5M a year, instead of $3 or 4M a year.

[moonslav59]

3 hours ago, Hugh2 said:

Ok how about this.  If an outfielder goes down, I’d rather have Yoshida slide into an everyday DH role than Eaton, but as a bench player Eaton is a better choice with more versatility. 

I'm not sure Eaton will be ahead of K Campbell on the OF depth charts, too.

[Hugh2]

6 hours ago, moonslav59 said:

I'm not sure Eaton will be ahead of K Campbell on the OF depth charts, too.

Maybe, maybe not.  They want Campbell getting regular at bats, Eaton is filling a utility role.  Apples to oranges.

[Bellhorn04]

17 hours ago, 5GoldGlovesOF,75 said:

Last vestige of the worst trade in the history of baseball in our lifetimes.

I find it hard to even think of the Betts trade as a trade.  They gifted him to the Dodgers.

[Old Red]

8 minutes ago, Bellhorn04 said:

I find it hard to even think of the Betts trade as a trade.  They gifted him to the Dodgers.

I agree, but at least they didn’t pay part of his contract.

[Old Red]

5 hours ago, Hugh2 said:

Maybe, maybe not.  They want Campbell getting regular at bats, Eaton is filling a utility role.  Apples to oranges.

I agree. Campbell is still a suspect who needs regular playing time, and more time in Woo is more beneficial right now IMO.