A Realistic View of 2023: Part II

[Hugh2]

Actually, several sites had Mondesi's ETA listed as Mid to late April, a few weeks ago.

 

Even when we signed him months back Bloom said they knew they were signing someone who was still recovering. You know how these Bloom haters are, they just make s*** up to complain about.

 

The mind-boggling thing is there are real reasons to critique Bloom. Why not stick to the facts???

[moonslav59]

Even when we signed him months back Bloom said they knew they were signing someone who was still recovering. You know how these Bloom haters are, they just make s*** up to complain about.

 

The mind-boggling thing is there are real reasons to critique Bloom. Why not stick to the facts???

 

Certainly, we all knew Mondesi might not start the year on the 26, but not many felt he'd be on the 60.

 

To say "everyone knew" is either gross exaggeration of something worse.

[Old Red]

Even when we signed him months back Bloom said they knew they were signing someone who was still recovering. You know how these Bloom haters are, they just make s*** up to complain about.

 

The mind-boggling thing is there are real reasons to critique Bloom. Why not stick to the facts???

Mondesi was just signed as an insurance policy, and a plan C, or D.

[jad]

Even when we signed him months back Bloom said they knew they were signing someone who was still recovering. You know how these Bloom haters are, they just make s*** up to complain about.

 

The mind-boggling thing is there are real reasons to critique Bloom. Why not stick to the facts???

 

Please provide the definitive list on the "facts" or "legitimate reasons to critique Bloom" so that we know what we are permitted to say from here on.

[moonslav59]

Mondesi was just signed as an insurance policy, and a plan C, or D.

 

Since Story was known to be out to start the year, I do think the hopes were that he'd be an early option at SS- likely not opening day, but I don't thin Bloom or anyone expected a 60+ days wait.

 

Can or should Bloom be blamed for not knowing or "guessing wrongly?" Maybe- maybe not.

 

I do think the team would be better with Mondesi at SS and Kike in CF (or 2B, if Duvall does well.)

[moonslav59]

Please provide the definitive list on the "facts" or "legitimate reasons to critique Bloom" so that we know what we are permitted to say from here on.

 

GMs who sign Injured or injury prone players have always been criticized. I think it is valid.

 

Saying "everyone except Bloom knew" he'd go on the 60 day IL is just plain untrue.

[Bellhorn04]

GMs who sign Injured or injury prone players have always been criticized. I think it is valid.

 

Saying "everyone except Bloom knew" he'd go on the 60 day IL is just plain untrue.

 

In fairness I think 700hitter was exercising some sardonic hyperbole there and not intending to be taken literally...

[notin]

In fairness I think 700hitter was exercising some sardonic hyperbole there and not intending to be taken literally...

 

Fairly certain jad was as well…

[notin]

Mondesi was just signed as an insurance policy, and a plan C, or D.

 

Then it was a bad move. We needed a Plan B first…

[Old Red]

Then it was a bad move. We needed a Plan B first…

 

Aren’t we already on plan B? The original idea I believe was for Story to be the SS this year.

[Bellhorn04]

Aren’t we already on plan B? The original idea I believe was for Story to be the SS this year.

 

Good thing they had Bobby Dalbec sharpen up his game at SS.

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

Aren’t we already on plan B? The original idea I believe was for Story to be the SS this year.

 

We've been through this. The SS plans evolved all winter: Ander Bogaerts, Bstory, Cheeke, and Dhang, with Bobby Ealbec waiting in WorZter.

[Old Red]

Good thing they had Bobby Dalbec sharpen up his game at SS.

 

After Chang who’s up next.

[Old Red]

In fairness I think 700hitter was exercising some sardonic hyperbole there and not intending to be taken literally...

 

Exactly, but you know how some like to jump at something on here, and say ha, ha I gotcha.

[notin]

Exactly, but you know how some like to jump at something on here, and say ha, ha I gotcha.

 

I assume you were looking in a Mira’s you typed that…

[moonslav59]

Then it was a bad move. We needed a Plan B first…

 

We needed a SS expected to be ready on opening day, yes.

[moonslav59]

After Chang who’s up next.

 

Arroyo?

 

(Valdez to 2B?)

 

Hamilton?

 

lmao!

[Hugh2]

Please provide the definitive list on the "facts" or "legitimate reasons to critique Bloom" so that we know what we are permitted to say from here on.

 

No actual decisions made are excerpt from critique. Go crazy.

[moonslav59]

So, is this how the rotation might be stacked up?

 

3/30 Kluber v BAL

3/31 Off

4/1 Sale v BAL

4/2 Houck v BAL

4/3 Crawford v PIT

4/4 Pivetta v PIT

4/5 Kluber v PIT (+1 day of rest

4/6 Whitlock? (starts w Woo 3/31) or Sale? @DET

4/7 Off

4/8 Whitlock or Sale (+2 days of rest) or Crawford @ DET

4/9 Crawford (+1) or Houck (+ 2 days of rest) @ DET

 

Game scheduled everyday until April 27th.

Edited March 30, 2023 by moonslav59

[moonslav59]

Tough loss.

 

Let's make it 1 and 1, Saturday.

[notin]

Tough loss.

 

Let's make it 1 and 1, Saturday.

 

The Sox have only started out 1-0 once since 2017.

 

And that was in 2020…

[moonslav59]

The Sox have only started out 1-0 once since 2017.

 

And that was in 2020…

 

I'd rather we be 1-0.

[Hugh2]

It was nice to see them battle back, the pitching was disappointing. If the pitching is going to be a strength, they need Bello and Whitlock back and Sake to stay healthy. Paxton still intrigues me, but 10 runs is a bad look.

[jacksonianmarch]

You won't have the luxury of facing the Orioles god awful pitching every game. Gibson as opening day starter is embarrassing for them. Sox pitching is gonna hold them back. Hitting will take a step back without Xander.

[jacksonianmarch]

Also, I don't see the allure of Kluber and have zero f***ing idea why Kluber was the OD starter. Kluber is elderly in terms of a pitcher. Not just in age but in stuff. He cannot break 90 anymore. Plus, he absolutely imploded in the back half of the season last year. Era first half, mid 3's, ERA back half over 5. This was a stupid signing

[notin]

You won't have the luxury of facing the Orioles god awful pitching every game. Gibson as opening day starter is embarrassing for them. Sox pitching is gonna hold them back. Hitting will take a step back without Xander.

 

Too bad the Sox weren’t facing one of those stud aces like Corbin Burnes, Alek Manoah or Aaron Nola, all of whom turned in stellar performances.

 

It’s one day of 162…

[moonslav59]

Also, I don't see the allure of Kluber and have zero f***ing idea why Kluber was the OD starter. Kluber is elderly in terms of a pitcher. Not just in age but in stuff. He cannot break 90 anymore. Plus, he absolutely imploded in the back half of the season last year. Era first half, mid 3's, ERA back half over 5. This was a stupid signing

 

Now our true ace and #2, #3... will be facing other team's lesser pitchers.

[notin]

Also, I don't see the allure of Kluber and have zero f***ing idea why Kluber was the OD starter. Kluber is elderly in terms of a pitcher. Not just in age but in stuff. He cannot break 90 anymore. Plus, he absolutely imploded in the back half of the season last year. Era first half, mid 3's, ERA back half over 5. This was a stupid signing

 

If he can get that down to a non-arbitrarily chosen 4.12 in the second half, would he be worth $36million?

[a700hitter]

In fairness I think 700hitter was exercising some sardonic hyperbole there and not intending to be taken literally...

Sardonic hyperbole literacy has been in short supply these days on TalkSox. It has become an extremely boring place.

[moonslav59]

Also, I don't see the allure of Kluber and have zero f***ing idea why Kluber was the OD starter. Kluber is elderly in terms of a pitcher. Not just in age but in stuff. He cannot break 90 anymore. Plus, he absolutely imploded in the back half of the season last year. Era first half, mid 3's, ERA back half over 5. This was a stupid signing

 

I see 4.32 over his last 23 GS'd in 2022.

 

It was 4.18 over his last 9.

 

The last 16 of his 31 starts?

 

4.70 with a 3.54 FIP. (Not far from Nestor's 3.34 FIP over his last 16 GS'd.)