Nationals (Cavalli) vs Red sox (Early): 6/30/26, 7:10pm

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

1 minute ago, illinoisredsox said:

True, but they can hit.

Reminds me of the 70's Sox. Great offense, bad pitching.

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

6 minutes ago, illinoisredsox said:

Don Zimmer?

But yeah, Yaz and Lee were about as opposite as 2 guys can be.

Bernie Carbo disliked Zim intensely.

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

11 minutes ago, SPLENDIDSPLINTER said:

Nobody hated Bill Lee more than Yaz.

When Lee gave up that blooper pitch homer to Perez in the 75 WS, if Yaz had been armed, he would have shot Lee dead.

[notin]

50 minutes ago, SPLENDIDSPLINTER said:

It's the Sox. Of course it's serious.

Do our players ever come off the IL?

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

Just now, notin said:

Do our players ever come off the IL?

It's usually month to month.

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

3 minutes ago, SPLENDIDSPLINTER said:

It's usually month to month.

I wonder if the Sox medical staff is running secret experiments on them?

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

8 minutes ago, notin said:

Do our players ever come off the IL?

Some are on the IL so long that you forget they're still on the team. Sometimes you forget their names entirely.

[illinoisredsox]

24 minutes ago, SPLENDIDSPLINTER said:

 

 

24 minutes ago, SPLENDIDSPLINTER said:

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[illinoisredsox]

24 minutes ago, SPLENDIDSPLINTER said:

Bernie Carbo disliked Zim intensely.

Lee and Carbo were two members of the Loyal Order of the Buffalo Heads, who’s sole purpose was to mock Zimmer and his decisions.  There were 3 or 4 other guys as well.  The group lasted maybe 2 years with all of them traded or otherwise moved from the club.

 

[FredLynn]

1 hour ago, SPLENDIDSPLINTER said:

Stay out, Jerk.

No thanks

I was going to join in to your name calling contest but decided that I’m better than that. You should try to be too. Childish name calling really has no place here. 

 

[notin]

12 minutes ago, illinoisredsox said:

Lee and Carbo were two members of the Loyal Order of the Buffalo Heads, who’s sole purpose was to mock Zimmer and his decisions.  There were 3 or 4 other guys as well.  The group lasted maybe 2 years with all of them traded or otherwise moved from the club.

 

Jim Willoughby was another one..

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

Don Zimmer was the reason that ballplayers were required to wear helmets at the plate. 

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

1 minute ago, SPLENDIDSPLINTER said:

Don Zimmer was the reason that ballplayers were required to wear helmets at the plate. 

He was also the first 3rd baseman for the Mets.

[a700hitter]

Yaz reportedly begged Zimmer to start Lee instead of Sprowl in a key Yankee series, but Zimmer’s hatred for Lee prevailed.

[a700hitter]

Contreras needs to be put on tranquilizers.  

[cp176]

7 hours ago, a700hitter said:

Contreras needs to be put on tranquilizers.  

Two nights in a row he hurts his team by not being on the field.  I understand why he is emotional, I just don’t need to see it all the time.  Two nights ago he pounds one out big time.  After the way he carried on after the hit, what do you think Pedro or Gibson would have done the next time he came to the plate? Shut up and play the game.

[jad]

1 hour ago, cp176 said:

Two nights in a row he hurts his team by not being on the field.  I understand why he is emotional, I just don’t need to see it all the time.  Two nights ago he pounds one out big time.  After the way he carried on after the hit, what do you think Pedro or Gibson would have done the next time he came to the plate? Shut up and play the game.

Yeah that act was amusing maybe the first time.   He can't even play his own brother without calling out the rest of the team.

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

Ya, well, I'm on Chad Tracy's side complaining the umps didn't eject the instigator: the racist pitcher who called a man who plays for the Red Sox -- the team I root for -- "boy."

[Deja Doh]

Duran looks like he's a right handed batter trying to hit left.

 

11 hours ago, SPLENDIDSPLINTER said:

Most LH batters have a pretty swing. Not Duran. 

 

[Hitch]

29 minutes ago, 5GoldGlovesOF,75 said:

Ya, well, I'm on Chad Tracy's side complaining the umps didn't eject the instigator: the racist pitcher who called a man who plays for the Red Sox -- the team I root for -- "boy."

I expected to find everyone on Contreras' side, but Talk Sox has the constant ability to bewilder. 

[jad]

33 minutes ago, 5GoldGlovesOF,75 said:

Ya, well, I'm on Chad Tracy's side complaining the umps didn't eject the instigator: the racist pitcher who called a man who plays for the Red Sox -- the team I root for -- "boy."

Agreed.  But  that a-hole will wake up as a racist s*** tomorrow no matter what happens.

As for Contreras, every manager has to be thinking "Hmm.  You mean I can get my opponent's best hitter tossed by throwing inside and maybe saying something to him? ...Hell.  Go for it."

[Old Red]

1 hour ago, Hitch said:

I expected to find everyone on Contreras' side, but Talk Sox has the constant ability to bewilder. 

 

3 hours ago, cp176 said:

Two nights in a row he hurts his team by not being on the field.  I understand why he is emotional, I just don’t need to see it all the time.  Two nights ago he pounds one out big time.  After the way he carried on after the hit, what do you think Pedro or Gibson would have done the next time he came to the plate? Shut up and play the game.

Well said. If he’s not trying to fight someone he’s smashing something in the dugout.

[Old Red]

11 hours ago, a700hitter said:

Contreras needs to be put on tranquilizers.  

He’s like Francis on Stripes.

[Old Red]

1 hour ago, Hitch said:

I expected to find everyone on Contreras' side, but Talk Sox has the constant ability to bewilder. 

The pitcher crossed the line calling him Boy, but most likely the Con Man would have acted the same way if the pitcher had just said SIT Down. Flip the bat, and these things will happen.

[Bellhorn04]

11 hours ago, a700hitter said:

Yaz reportedly begged Zimmer to start Lee instead of Sprowl in a key Yankee series, but Zimmer’s hatred for Lee prevailed.

Zimmer reportedly pulled a bunch of clippings out of his desk with Lee calling him a gerbil.  Yaz was dumbfounded.

[jad]

11 minutes ago, Bellhorn04 said:

Zimmer reportedly pulled a bunch of clippings out of his desk with Lee calling him a gerbil.  Yaz was dumbfounded.

Didn't know any of this, but I've always hated Zimmer.  Is there a book about all that went on?

 

[drewski6]

Kind of feels like a grade A setup of contreras, which is why I intentionally withdrew my like on A700 hitters post (no offense to A700). We know Contreras had a hot-head rep even before coming here.  So he has that working against him.  He has ejection in prior night working against him (which also appears dubious btw).

And Cavatalli pasta or whatever, is playing the "we're both competitors and words were said. I think he only reacted like that because of whats going on in Venezuela" card (note the intentional omission of the specific words that were said).  Fox News in their headline, left out the word "boy" in their headline.  Contreras ejected after reacting for being told to sit down.

A devastating earthquake in Venezuela, add that to the list of things currently being weaponized against Contreras.  I get how this looks like an emotional player , having an emotional reaction, when he has something else going on (the grief over the earthquake).  

But this all smells very gross.  And my wish is not that Contreras didnt calm down , and Im not mad at him for "not staying in the game for his teammates".  Im just mad he didnt get to land any real punches at Cavatalli.

[FredLynn]

31 minutes ago, drewski6 said:

Kind of feels like a grade A setup of contreras, which is why I intentionally withdrew my like on A700 hitters post (no offense to A700). We know Contreras had a hot-head rep even before coming here.  So he has that working against him.  He has ejection in prior night working against him (which also appears dubious btw).

And Cavatalli pasta or whatever, is playing the "we're both competitors and words were said. I think he only reacted like that because of whats going on in Venezuela" card (note the intentional omission of the specific words that were said).  Fox News in their headline, left out the word "boy" in their headline.  Contreras ejected after reacting for being told to sit down.

A devastating earthquake in Venezuela, add that to the list of things currently being weaponized against Contreras.  I get how this looks like an emotional player , having an emotional reaction, when he has something else going on (the grief over the earthquake).  

But this all smells very gross.  And my wish is not that Contreras didnt calm down , and Im not mad at him for "not staying in the game for his teammates".  Im just mad he didnt get to land any real punches at Cavatalli.

He's got to find a way to reel in his emotions, as difficult for him as it is right now. He is our best hitter. Still, someone on the Nats should get drilled for Cavatalli taking advantage of the situation. That was low.

[moonslav59]

The pen is showing signs of breaking down. Maybe Moran and Sandoval can help patch things up, but a trade might help more.

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

Not a surprise the umpiring crew didn't eject the racist who started the chaos.

By now we're all too used to arbiters who are supposed to have the public's trust not holding a Washington instigator accountable.