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How about the A's Brent Rooker and Shane Langeliers?  I'm sure Trout doesn't want to move because of his family.  

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I truly hate Sox pitchers interfering with the game

F'ing slow ass Tolle determined to give up a run

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15 hours ago, Deja Doh said:

How about the A's Brent Rooker and Shane Langeliers?  I'm sure Trout doesn't want to move because of his family.  

The Athletics are well into the postseason hunt and trying to shake their cheap image as they make slowly make their way towards Vegas.

At tjis stage in the season, Boston might be better off trying to find the next Brent Rooker rather than throwing away more potential future pieces chasing the 2026 season.  When the A’s acquired Rooker, he was a 27 year old journeyman with minimal games and even less performance for three different MLB teams.  Candidates to be the next Brent Rooker might be someone like Justin Foscue or <sigh> Jo Adell.

It keeps coming back to Adell…

 

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10 minutes ago, notin said:

The Athletics are well into the postseason hunt and trying to shake their cheap image as they make slowly make their way towards Vegas.

At tjis stage in the season, Boston might be better off trying to find the next Brent Rooker rather than throwing away more potential future pieces chasing the 2026 season.  When the A’s acquired Rooker, he was a 27 year old journeyman with minimal games and even less performance for three different MLB teams.  Candidates to be the next Brent Rooker might be someone like Justin Foscue or <sigh> Jo Adell.

It keeps coming back to Adell…

 

The RF bullpen yearns for Adell! 

 

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On 6/8/2026 at 5:32 PM, vjcsmoke said:

Nothing the Red Sox front office does surprises me anymore.

They consistently make bad trades. What's another?

Priester trade looks like an L.

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Harrison and Drohan trade looks like an L.

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Can someone Explain to me why Breslow should still have his job?

 

Breslow should only be in charge of the pitching, which he’s good at. Everything else’s, he’s grossly under qualified…that’s what happens when your owner has zero loyalty to anyone but himself.

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7 minutes ago, Sthpaw777 said:

Weren’t the As forced to have a 100m payroll this year? 

They weren't really "forced to" per se, but were getting a lot of crap from other owners and the union from not spending. They intended to reach 100m in '25, but only got to 95m. This year they got to around 120m, I think. They are really just doing it for PR purposes while they are in the process of moving. 

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2 hours ago, mvp 78 said:

They weren't really "forced to" per se, but were getting a lot of crap from other owners and the union from not spending. They intended to reach 100m in '25, but only got to 95m. This year they got to around 120m, I think. They are really just doing it for PR purposes while they are in the process of moving. 

Just shows that if there’s a cap there should be a floor. They are more competitive at just 120M. But that will probably never happen. Even though that’s how you get better teams and more competition.

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22 minutes ago, Sthpaw777 said:

Just shows that if there’s a cap there should be a floor. They are more competitive at just 120M. But that will probably never happen. Even though that’s how you get better teams and more competition.

No cap, but if there's a CBT tax, there should be a CBT floor tax where you lose a % of revenue sharing if you don't put enough back into payroll.

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16 hours ago, mvp 78 said:

No cap, but if there's a CBT tax, there should be a CBT floor tax where you lose a % of revenue sharing if you don't put enough back into payroll.

Agree. A floor is more important for a competitive balance. My original point was just that. If the6 want a cap then they need a floor too. I don’t think billionaires should get and cash for not spending. Sounds unfair to owners, where in some cases are worth less, but put more of a % of their money earned from the team back into their team. 

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You play half of your games at Fenway Park and you are last in the league in home runs! That can't happen if you plan on winning anything! As it stands now if they fall behind by 3 runs they can't win that game. A Red Sox team that can't come from behind by three runs! Before the 2027 season that has to be corrected.  

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4 minutes ago, Behindenemylines said:

You play half of your games at Fenway Park and you are last in the league in home runs! That can't happen if you plan on winning anything! As it stands now if they fall behind by 3 runs they can't win that game. A Red Sox team that can't come from behind by three runs! Before the 2027 season that has to be corrected.  

Breslow knew power was a problem going into the offseason and wasn't able to do anything about it. He pivoted to a pitching and defense team. Why? The spreadsheet didn't account for the home games being played at Fenway Park! 🤓

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On 6/10/2026 at 8:27 AM, notin said:

Boston might be better off trying to find the next Brent Rooker rather than throwing away more potential future pieces chasing the 2026 season.

Some of the fans won't be happy trading for projections, or trying to figure out how a player's swing might work in Fenway.  Chapman and Adames have combined for 13 HRs in the past 28 days.  We'd be in 1st had we traded for them when I suggested it.

Adell is nowhere near them as an overall player, but I reckon he'd be a 30+ HR hitter in Fenway.

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On 6/11/2026 at 4:37 AM, Sthpaw777 said:

If the6 want a cap then they need a floor too.

It seems an easy enough fix.  Just copy what the NFL does.  Both sides work in the best interest of the sport, and both get paid off.

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Same need that they had last off season! Lack of power continues to be the Sox problem. Last night they had runners on every inning but didn't score! If in one of those innings someone ran into one you have a whole different ballgame!  The offense is hard to watch! Never thought I would say that about a Red Sox team!

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22 hours ago, Behindenemylines said:

Same need that they had last off season! Lack of power continues to be the Sox problem. Last night they had runners on every inning but didn't score! If in one of those innings someone ran into one you have a whole different ballgame!  The offense is hard to watch! Never thought I would say that about a Red Sox team!

 

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On 6/6/2026 at 9:02 AM, harmony said:

From another thread:

Per MLB Trade Rumors, the Red Sox are exploring the trade market for a right-handed bat while the Arizona Diamondbacks are exploring the market for a left-handed bat:

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2026/06/red-sox-trade-rumors-right-handed-bat-eat-money-salary.html

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2026/06/diamondbacks-trade-rumors-left-handed-bat-first-base-dh.html

Would either side be interested in a trade of lefthand-hitting Masataka Yoshida for righthand-hitting Lourdes Gurriel Jr., two 32-year-old hitters with MLB career wRC+ of 108 each?

According to Spotrac, Yoshida has guaranteed salaries of $18.6 million for 2026 and 2027 while Gurriel had a 2026 salary of $14 million and a 2027 club option for $14 million.

This season Yoshida has posted a negative 0.1 fWAR and a wRC+ of 96 in 43 games while Gurriel, who is currently on the injured list, has slumped to a negative 0.4 fWAR and a wRC+of 65 in 25 games.

Before the season FanGraphs projected Yoshida with 0.4 fWAR and a wRC+ of 111 in 40 games while projecting Gurriel with 1.1 fWAR and a wRC+ of 106 in 110 games.

The ZiPS three-year 2026-28 projections had Yoshida with 1.1  fWAR in 282 games and Gurriel with 2.3 fWAR in 346 games.

https://www.fangraphs.com/players/masataka-yoshida/31837/stats/batting#zips-3-year-projections

https://www.fangraphs.com/players/lourdes-gurriel-jr/19238/stats/batting#zips-3-year-projections

Since his arrival in 2023, Yoshida has posted 3.2 bWAR and 1.5 fWAR in 346 games while over the same period Gurriel has posted 5.1 bWAR and 4.4 fWAR in 432 games.

Gurriel, who played five seasons in the AL East, has posted a .322/.358/.458/816 line in 190 plate appearances at Fenway Park.

Buying low on Gurriel would save the significant payroll.

Thoughts?

Sox say yes.

Posted
8 minutes ago, a700hitter said:

Can we expect regression to the mean or do they just suck?

What is the "mean" of our players?

2025?

It looks like only Rafaela, Tolle and maybe Early have improved on his expectations, but I'm not sure expectations = mean.

I do think Durbin is better than .600, but he does not have a large sample size to know much.

I think Abreu should be better than .760, but maybe not by a whole lot.

Narvaez had too small a sample size to know what his mean should be. He's at .560, and I and most others expected better.

Duran has always been a crapshoot, IMO. He had and has no "mean."

Story had his best season in a long time, last year. It was also his first full season since 2021 w COL. His "mean" might be .600 to .650 with meh defense- maybe plus at 2B.

Contreras is doing better than his mean and expectations.

Yoshida is doing worse.

Anthony, Mayer and the subs have no mean.

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7 minutes ago, a700hitter said:

The trade of Blaze Jordan is going to look very bad very soon.  He has power and so far he has k’d only 4 times and n 60 AB’s.

2 Ks in 31 MLB PAs.

Matz did well for us in 2025.

Why do you expect it will look bad "soon?" Are you expecting him to continue over .850?

His sample size is 31 PAs.

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3 minutes ago, a700hitter said:

We will have to wait and see, but I think he will be very productive.

Why?

The low K rate?

.797 in 620 AAA PAs (70 Ks)

,747 in 759 AA PAs (93 Ks)

Posted
10 minutes ago, a700hitter said:

We will have to wait and see, but I think he will be very productive.

But that trade at least made sense.  You buy bullpen help at the deadline, yes, you’re going to give up the occasional good player.  That doesn’t necessarily make it a bad trade.  If anything, it’s how trades are supposed to work.  
 

But it’s a small sample size.  Mayer had a .835 OPS after 48 PA, 50% more than Jordan has.  Campbell was on his way to being the Offfensive Rookie of the Month at the same stage in his rookie year.  And here we are with two young players many feel were rushed and have questionable futures.  No reason to call Jordan a lock just yet…

 

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1 hour ago, notin said:

But that trade at least made sense.  You buy bullpen help at the deadline, yes, you’re going to give up the occasional good player.  That doesn’t necessarily make it a bad trade.  If anything, it’s how trades are supposed to work.  
 

But it’s a small sample size.  Mayer had a .835 OPS after 48 PA, 50% more than Jordan has.  Campbell was on his way to being the Offfensive Rookie of the Month at the same stage in his rookie year.  And here we are with two young players many feel were rushed and have questionable futures.  No reason to call Jordan a lock just yet…

 

Exactly.

Our recent GMs have been widely criticized for their lack of meaningful deadline trades. The last significant one was Schwarber in 2021. Matz and Danny Jansen did okay.

How many of the prospects we traded at the deadline and July trades have gone on to to well?

Last 15 years...

2025:

Jordan for Matz

Tibbs & Ehrhard for May

2024: Bloom era

Matt Lugo, Kavadas, Zeferjahn & Vargas for Luis Garcia

Portes for Lucas Sims

Yorke for Priester

Paulino, Coffey & Batista for Danny Jansen

Bolivar for Paxton

2023

Blalock for Luis Urias

Kike for N Robertson & Hagenman

2022

Hosmer, Ferguson & Rosier for Groome

Vazquez for Abreu & E Valdez

Diekman for Reese McGuire

2021

Aldo Ramirez for Schwarber

Alex Scherff for Robles

Chavis for Austin Davis

Chatham for Santos

2020

Workman & Hembree for Pivetta & Seibold

Moreland for Potts & J Rosario

Pillar for Jacob Wallace

2019 (DD)

N Romero for Andrew Cashner

2018

Beeks for Eovaldi

Buttry & W Jerez for Kinsler

2017

Bautista, Callahan & Nogosek for Addison Reed

Shaun Anderson & G Santos for E Nunez

2016

Pat Light for F Abad

Espinoza for Drew Pomeranz

L Basabe & J Almonte for Brad Ziegler

W Rifo & Wilkerson for Aaron Hill

2015 (Ben)

Victorino for Josh Rutledge

2014 (Major sell off)

Andrew Miller for ERod

Lester & Gomes for Cespedes (later traded for Porcello)

Lackey & Litrell for Joe Kelly, Craig

Stephen Drew for Kelly Johnson

Doubront for Workman

Peavy for Hembree & E Escobar

2013

Iggy, F Montas, Wendelken & C Rondon for Peavy & Villarreal

B Jacobs for Matt Thornton

2012

Albers & Podsednik for Breslow

2011 (Theo)

S Fife, Federowicz & JRod for E Bedard & Josh Fields 

Y Navarro & K Volz for Mike Aviles

2010

R Mendez & McGuiness for Salty

Posted
7 minutes ago, Duran Is The Man said:

you mean the 21 innings we got out of Matz for him wasn't enough? LOL.

But Matz availability made sense.  St. Louis was out of it and Matz was a pending free agent, and the Sox needed bullpen help.  May made no sense, because the Dodgers were in it and shouldn’t be trading away SP for minor leaguers.  Unless they feel that SP is completely useless.  Like May..

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