Red Sox (Bello) vs Blue Jays (Lauer): 4/29/26, 3:07pm

[iortiz]

This is going to be looong season folks. They should be planning accordingly for 27 already. They have plenty of time to s*** the bed again. 

[FredLynn]

36 minutes ago, iortiz said:

This is going to be looong season folks. They should be planning accordingly for 27 already. They have plenty of time to s*** the bed again. 

Just to get to 90 wins they’d have to play about .600 ball. Not gonna happen 

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

When you go from Bello to the middle relievers, it's the same as going from the toilet to the cesspool.

How much does this team suck? Let me count the ways.

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

31 minutes ago, FredLynn said:

Just to get to 90 wins they’d have to play about .600 ball. Not gonna happen 

I firmly believe 100 losses is much more realistic than 90 wins.

[iortiz]

42 minutes ago, SPLENDIDSPLINTER said:

I firmly believe 100 losses is much more realistic than 90 wins.

JH is a successful billionaire old man but if this teams ends up with 100+, wonder what is he going to do about it. Furthermore how is he going to face his life until October in Boston?

[UtahSox]

7 hours ago, Jean-Sébastien Blouin said:

I mean 9+ era he’s heading there regardless if he has another start like the last 4.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Why not send Bello to the AAA team for a couple of weeks, like last year, to help him regain his confidence? It worked well last year, so why not this season? His morale seems to be at rock bottom.

 

[UtahSox]

1 hour ago, iortiz said:

JH is a successful billionaire old man but if this teams ends up with 100+, wonder what is he going to do about it. Furthermore how is he going to face his life until October in Boston?

He’s such a coward, he will probably just run to his yacht or Europe for the year.

[jad]

6 hours ago, iortiz said:

JH is a successful billionaire old man but if this teams ends up with 100+, wonder what is he going to do about it. Furthermore how is he going to face his life until October in Boston?

do you really think he cares what the unwashed rabble (i.e., his customers) think?

[moonslav59]

1 hour ago, oldtimer said:

Arms are not the answer if we are pathetic at sdcoring runs. Look for weak offensive players with more than 100 abs, especially if coupled with so so defense. Management needs to make the hard decisions and get rid of ones that can't get it done, particularly if they are well into their careers. Look to the minors for hope. We had chances to make trades earlier and  whiffed on those. Another year in last place is not acceptable.

We'd have been a much better team had we timed a few trades just right.

Duran

Bello

Wong (maybe Narvaez)

Crawford

Others...

[Yaz Fan Since 67]

14 hours ago, Jasonbay44 said:

Bryan Bello is one of worst players in baseball right now. Pitching him is basically a forfeit 

I am so done with this guy.  I supported the contract at the time, seemed like a good gamble, but he is a disaster.  

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

Note to Chad:

Please stop platooning Mayer. Let him play everyday. We don't need a Cora 2.0.

[mvp 78]

9 hours ago, iortiz said:

This is going to be looong season folks. They should be planning accordingly for 27 already. They have plenty of time to s*** the bed again. 

It's a pretty short season for a lot of fans that will just be tuning out before Memorial Day.

[mvp 78]

1 hour ago, jad said:

do you really think he cares what the unwashed rabble (i.e., his customers) think?

They intentionally seclude him away from the public and the press so that he doesn't "put his foot in his mouth" (aka say what he really thinks). I think he cares. I think his opinions go against Sox PR spin, so they need to keep him away. 

[Old Red]

23 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

They intentionally seclude him away from the public and the press so that he doesn't "put his foot in his mouth" (aka say what he really thinks). I think he cares. I think his opinions go against Sox PR spin, so they need to keep him away. 

He couldn’t even speak to his players, and hugged the wall with Sam when the players were told about the firing. I guess he felt just his presence was enough, and had a calming effect.

[mvp 78]

5 minutes ago, Old Red said:

He couldn’t even speak to his players, and hugged the wall with Sam when the players were told about the firing. I guess he felt just his presence was enough, and had a calming effect.

Henry is a 🧛‍♂️ and needs to  be kept as far away from the players as possible. The calming effect is just a charm spell.

[drewski6]

41 minutes ago, Old Red said:

He couldn’t even speak to his players, and hugged the wall with Sam when the players were told about the firing. I guess he felt just his presence was enough, and had a calming effect.

In JH's defense , saying nothing might have been better than Breslow's "we expect you to do what we pay you do do" which is akin to "shut up and dribble".

JH may have hired the only dude in baseball who is a worse communicator.  Maybe that was the strat.  The ole you dont need to outrun the tiger , you just need to outrun the other people also running from the tiger

[FredLynn]

10 hours ago, iortiz said:

JH is a successful billionaire old man but if this teams ends up with 100+, wonder what is he going to do about it. Furthermore how is he going to face his life until October in Boston?

Here is what he is going to do about it: keep lying to our faces about his "commitment to win" while failing to spend the money to do so and keeping his puppet Breslow on retainer to deflect attention from him. Its SICK that its not even MAY and the season is already OVER.

[Old Red]

1 hour ago, drewski6 said:

In JH's defense , saying nothing might have been better than Breslow's "we expect you to do what we pay you do do" which is akin to "shut up and dribble".

JH may have hired the only dude in baseball who is a worse communicator.  Maybe that was the strat.  The ole you dont need to outrun the tiger , you just need to outrun the other people also running from the tiger

Good analogy.👍

[notin]

3 hours ago, drewski6 said:

In JH's defense , saying nothing might have been better than Breslow's "we expect you to do what we pay you do do" which is akin to "shut up and dribble".

JH may have hired the only dude in baseball who is a worse communicator.  Maybe that was the strat.  The ole you dont need to outrun the tiger , you just need to outrun the other people also running from the tiger

Technically you just need to outrun one other person also running from the tiger…

[Behindenemylines]

20 hours ago, illinoisredsox said:

The only reason Bello spent time in Portland and Worcester last year was on a rehab assignment after he was on the IL near the end of spring training.  In essence, it was continuing spring training for him.  He was never optioned down in the traditional sense of sending someone down.

Crochet being out may have bought him some time and it will be interesting to see what happens when Crochet is back assuming Bello continues to blow goat chunks on the mound.

Your being kind to Bello. A ground ball pitcher that is given up hard hit balls in the air is not good. He was on a short rope against Toronto because the Sox can't afford to give up too many runs because they don't score enough runs. He is not any good right now!

[JoeBrady]

8 hours ago, moonslav59 said:

We'd have been a much better team had we timed a few trades just right.

Duran

Bello

Wong (maybe Narvaez)

Crawford

Others...

Just so that I understand, predicting, and then trading, your most under-performing players, before they under-performed, is a strategy?

[drewski6]

7 minutes ago, JoeBrady said:

Just so that I understand, predicting, and then trading, your most under-performing players, before they under-performed, is a strategy?

I dont understand this desire to look at the failure of this roster through the lens of who we still have and shouldnt vs who we dont have and should.

I was listening to Merloni talk about this. As a player, we cared about who we got.  I have friends who panic at the thought of trades because everyone wearing our laundry gets the homer benefit of the doubt.  

I see a roster with 0 elite hitters, 0 offensive stars, and the names that come to my mind who could help are elite hitters.  And they tend to play LF or DH but we couldnt go that route (according to some) because of all the efficiency chasing. 

[moonslav59]

58 minutes ago, JoeBrady said:

Just so that I understand, predicting, and then trading, your most under-performing players, before they under-performed, is a strategy?

Thats what fans expect GMs to know and do.

[alsoason]

8 hours ago, mvp 78 said:

They intentionally seclude him away from the public and the press so that he doesn't "put his foot in his mouth" (aka say what he really thinks). I think he cares. I think his opinions go against Sox PR spin, so they need to keep him away. 

So you are saying that the owner has handlers? Just who is THEY?

[Yaz Fan Since 67]

8 hours ago, mvp 78 said:

It's a pretty short season for a lot of fans that will just be tuning out before Memorial Day.

 

Even in the bad years, and there have been many, I don't remember tuning them out in April before.  Honestly I checked out a few weeks ago and watch the game with the fast forward button at work.  This absolutely sucks. 

[drewski6]

Is this the worst RS roster since 2004?  There are some last place finishes in there to contend with.

[moonslav59]

33 minutes ago, drewski6 said:

Is this the worst RS roster since 2004?  There are some last place finishes in there to contend with.

The 2020 team opened the season with a rotation of Eovaldi, Perez, Weber, Springs & Hall. Our closer was Workman, who was traded at the deadline for Pivetta and promptly messed the bed. (Barnes, Brasier, Walden, Hembree, Brice & Brewer filled the rest of the pen.) OKay, ERod was out all year. Perez led the tean in IP, Ryan Weber 3rd, Phillips valdez 4th, Mazza 5th, Godley 6th, Brewer 7th, Brasier 8th, Barnes 9th, Springs 10th, Brice 11th, Osich, Kickham & Covey not far behind.

We started Jose Peraza at 2B w Beni, JBJ and Verdugo as our OF. Yes, Devers, Bogey & JD were still around. Vaz had a .689 career OPS going into 2020. Chavis finished 7th in PAs, Pillar 8th despite being traded. The bench was Dalbec, Plawecki, Arauz & Lin.

[JoeBrady]

4 hours ago, drewski6 said:

And they tend to play LF or DH but we couldnt go that route (according to some) because of all the efficiency chasing. 

We had 4 outfielders plus Yoshida.  We weren't adding another OF/DH.  The entire focus was upgrading the IF-1B, 2B, 3B.  That was about 99% of the discussion.

[JoeBrady]

3 hours ago, moonslav59 said:

Thats what fans expect GMs to know and do.

Any fan that expects the GM to predict a 200 point drop from Story, a 200 point drop from Duran, and a 200 point drop from Anthony, is going to be disappointed.  Real life doesn't work that way.

[moonslav59]

14 minutes ago, JoeBrady said:

Any fan that expects the GM to predict a 200 point drop from Story, a 200 point drop from Duran, and a 200 point drop from Anthony, is going to be disappointed.  Real life doesn't work that way.

Exactly. Fandom is far from logicdom.