Devers Ready To Play WHEREVER The Giants Need Him To

[king koji]

Bravo Raffy. But 8-9 years into the League, and Fatboy STILL needs the interpreter that Pedro, Manny, and Papi DIDNT need??!!! LOL.

And dont nobody come with Asian players. Spanish to English is completely different than Asian to English and vice versa..

Devers just a small-town hick.

 

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

Raffy even volunteered to captain small craft to sail into the Frisco bay and retrieve any baseballs from the water he cranks out of the park.

He invited his new teammates to join him in their choice of kayaks, canoes or submersibles, but when they consulted Bregman and Story for opinions, the Red Sox vets warned: "Be a landlubber."

[Bellhorn04]

10 hours ago, king koji said:

Bravo Raffy. But 8-9 years into the League, and Fatboy STILL needs the interpreter that Pedro, Manny, and Papi DIDNT need??!!! LOL.

And dont nobody come with Asian players. Spanish to English is completely different than Asian to English and vice versa..

Devers just a small-town hick.

 

Please refrain from using 'Fatboy' and other personal insults like these. 

[Hitch]

7 minutes ago, Bellhorn04 said:

Please refrain from using 'Fatboy' and other personal insults like these. 

It really is tiresome. For a board slanted toward the more mature age range, the immaturity is off the scale on times.

[illinoisredsox]

21 minutes ago, Bellhorn04 said:

Please refrain from using 'Fatboy' and other personal insults like these. 

Besides, wasn’t “Fatboy” reserved for Pablo Sandoval?

Just trying to diffuse the tension.

[Hugh2]

The F.O. might share some of the blame pie for how they handled things with Devers, but in the end he was hurting his team mates the most by taking the "I'm not going to do what you tell me" mentality. 

It's really sad, and emotions fly high, and people love to look for someone to blame and a singular person to be mad at which is why we will forever see a debate between Raffy vs. the F.O. but these things just happen sometimes and there's no silver bullet.  

I don't blame Breslow for expecting him to be a team player and moving to 1B, I don't blame Devers for feeling jerked around, and I don't blame the Sox from moving on, nor do I blame Raffy for willing to play other positions in a new town. 

[Bellhorn04]

1 minute ago, Hugh2 said:

The F.O. might share some of the blame pie for how they handled things with Devers, but in the end he was hurting his team mates the most by taking the "I'm not going to do what you tell me" mentality. 

It's really sad, and emotions fly high, and people love to look for someone to blame and a singular person to be mad at which is why we will forever see a debate between Raffy vs. the F.O. but these things just happen sometimes and there's no silver bullet.  

I don't blame Breslow for expecting him to be a team player and moving to 1B, I don't blame Devers for feeling jerked around, and I don't blame the Sox from moving on, nor do I blame Raffy for willing to play other positions in a new town. 

Devers may have had reasons to feel jerked around, but he ultimately prioritized his own feelings over the good of his team.

[Nick]

None of the veterans and our 'future' stars really didn't get to know him enough to care.......

Let's just see what the future looks like and see how fast we get there.

Crochet didn't give a damn. He and Bregman are the leaders. Hope we see Bregman for years to come. Extend him.

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

2 minutes ago, Hugh2 said:

The F.O. might share some of the blame pie for how they handled things with Devers, but in the end he was hurting his team mates the most by taking the "I'm not going to do what you tell me" mentality. 

It's really sad, and emotions fly high, and people love to look for someone to blame and a singular person to be mad at which is why we will forever see a debate between Raffy vs. the F.O. but these things just happen sometimes and there's no silver bullet.  

I don't blame Breslow for expecting him to be a team player and moving to 1B, I don't blame Devers for feeling jerked around, and I don't blame the Sox from moving on, nor do I blame Raffy for willing to play other positions in a new town. 

They all suck, but if the Sox don't use their resources to make moves in the next month that upgrade their chances, then we'll know the front office was full of crap when Breslow said they weren't waving the white flag.

We'll see about that, because if Boston -- with its overrated offense clearly depleted -- loses more than it wins between now and the deadline, it will give Brez and Kennedy the perfect excuse to sell rather than buy. 

[notin]

10 minutes ago, illinoisredsox said:

Besides, wasn’t “Fatboy” reserved for Pablo Sandoval?

Just trying to diffuse the tension.

No, he was Mount Pablo.

 

And as of today, I miss him…

[Bellhorn04]

3 minutes ago, 5GoldGlovesOF,75 said:

They all suck, but if the Sox don't use their resources to make moves in the next month that upgrade their chances, then we'll know the front office was full of crap when Breslow said they weren't waving the white flag.

We'll see about that, because if Boston -- with its overrated offense clearly depleted -- loses more than it wins between now and the deadline, it will give Brez and Kennedy the perfect excuse to sell rather than buy. 

Agreed.  Now that the dust has settled and our offense has been dealt a blow, Brez and company have more work to do, hopefully they're up to it.

[Hugh2]

13 minutes ago, 5GoldGlovesOF,75 said:

They all suck, but if the Sox don't use their resources to make moves in the next month that upgrade their chances, then we'll know the front office was full of crap when Breslow said they weren't waving the white flag.

We'll see about that, because if Boston -- with its overrated offense clearly depleted -- loses more than it wins between now and the deadline, it will give Brez and Kennedy the perfect excuse to sell rather than buy. 

I don't disagree, but I also don't like painting oneself into a corner of "you have to do something right now in this one area" as it kind of creates the opportunity to make a rash decision or a bad investment.  The Sox might be judged by how the use the extra payroll space from trading Devers, but they do not have to necessarily do that at this years deadline.  That's not to say they shouldn't be active, but that doesn't mean they have to add $29 million in payroll either. 

[Hugh2]

22 minutes ago, Bellhorn04 said:

Devers may have had reasons to feel jerked around, but he ultimately prioritized his own feelings over the good of his team.

Exactly, and one bad situation doesn't release someone from having to do their job. 

If I messed up a situation with an employee, and try to rectify a situation that doesn't mean I don't come back and put them on a job if I think it's the best fit for the company.  Devers might not have liked how the whole Bregman showdown went in the offseason, but asking him to try 1B after Casas went down was a very natural thing to do. 

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

4 minutes ago, Hugh2 said:

I don't disagree, but I also don't like painting oneself into a corner of "you have to do something right now in this one area" as it kind of creates the opportunity to make a rash decision or a bad investment.  The Sox might be judged by how the use the extra payroll space from trading Devers, but they do not have to necessarily do that at this years deadline.  That's not to say they shouldn't be active, but that doesn't mean they have to add $29 million in payroll either. 

Right now there are 27 batters with more home runs than current Boston HR leader Wilyer Abreu's 13. There are 45 players with more homers than the 11 for the Sox' next most powerful, Bregman.

In Slugging, 37 guys have a higher percentage than Abreu.

I'm not saying they're all available, but some will be in the next month (though not Raffy). 

The longball isn't everything -- unless you're on the Yankees and in first place. Again.

[Bellhorn04]

14 minutes ago, Hugh2 said:

Exactly, and one bad situation doesn't release someone from having to do their job. 

If I messed up a situation with an employee, and try to rectify a situation that doesn't mean I don't come back and put them on a job if I think it's the best fit for the company.  Devers might not have liked how the whole Bregman showdown went in the offseason, but asking him to try 1B after Casas went down was a very natural thing to do. 

It didn't help that Raffy was so convinced all along that he actually was a good defensive third baseman.

He WAS a good defensive third baseman compared to the general population, but not compared to other MLBers at the position.

[notin]

And when the Sox go to SF this week, I’m putting the over/under for number of Devers home runs in that series at 3.5.

I’m mad at him and don’t like him, but there should be no denying that man can hit…

[Nick]

It was good to see Alcala pitch last night. Up to 98 mph.

Guerrero and Alcala are hard throwers. Only if they can locate their fastball.

[notin]

1 hour ago, Hugh2 said:

Exactly, and one bad situation doesn't release someone from having to do their job. 

If I messed up a situation with an employee, and try to rectify a situation that doesn't mean I don't come back and put them on a job if I think it's the best fit for the company.  Devers might not have liked how the whole Bregman showdown went in the offseason, but asking him to try 1B after Casas went down was a very natural thing to do. 

I agree.

Now maybe the interpreter took some liberties? My Spanish is beyond horrible. But if he said that whole “they can’t expect me to play every position” and “it’s [Breslow’s] job to go find a first baseman,” upset or not, thats just ridiculous, selfish and immature. I fail to see how asking him to play a new position AFTER AN INJURY TO A TEAMMATE is jerking him around.  Grow up, Devers…

[notin]

Just now, Nick said:

It was good to see Alcala pitch last night. Up to 98 mph.

Guerrero and Alcala are hard throwers. Only if they can locate their fastball.

If Alcala could locate his fastball, we wouldn’t have him.  He was available because of his wildness…

[Nick]

12 minutes ago, notin said:

If Alcala could locate his fastball, we wouldn’t have him.  He was available because of his wildness…

At least he is not on IL. 

[king koji]

3 hours ago, Bellhorn04 said:

Please refrain from using 'Fatboy' and other personal insults like these. 

I agree. That's poor sportsmanship. And terrible. I will humbly heed your warning.

Love Raffy forever.

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

Irked at everyone.

Since when does anyone on the coaching staff or in the front office have to "ask" a player to play a different position? 

Pregame tradition has managers post the starting line-up on the dugout wall. 

If a skipper wants to extend a courtesy to one of his veteran regulars, he might privately inform him of a change so he won't be surprised -- or omg, offended. 

But when someone who doesn't follow sports meets a guy at a family function, or even in a stuck elevator, and asks, "What do you do for a living?" -- I'll bet no one in history has ever answered, "I'm a DH."

I'm a baseball player.

[mvp 78]

"Oh, so what do you do?"

"I'm an accountant."

"Can you do my taxes?"

"Hell no!"

"I guess you're not a REAL accountant then!" 

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

Don't call me a laborer. 

I sweep sheetrock scraps and drywall dust into piles at a construction site. 

(next thing you know, they'll want me to shovel it into the dumpster).

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

Interesting that Betts, Bogey and Devers are all playing in the NL West on three different teams.

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

1 minute ago, SPLENDIDSPLINTER said:

Interesting that Betts, Bogey and Devers are all playing in the NL West on three different teams.

Dodgers and Giants fans can't believe Wong and James Tibbs The 3rd might someday play together in Boston.

[FredLynn]

3 hours ago, illinoisredsox said:

Besides, wasn’t “Fatboy” reserved for Pablo Sandoval?

Just trying to diffuse the tension.

I'm not inclined to use that term, but the fact is that Devers is overweight, probably bordering on obese. Not fat shaming him, just pointing out that his longevity and proclivity towards injury are going to be affected by his weight. Just seems that baseball management should have some sort of weight goals to enforce with their players.

[mvp 78]

1 minute ago, FredLynn said:

I'm not inclined to use that term, but the fact is that Devers is overweight, probably bordering on obese. 

He's NOT obese. Not even borderline. You guys are ridiculous. 

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

7 minutes ago, FredLynn said:

I'm not inclined to use that term, but the fact is that Devers is overweight, probably bordering on obese. Not fat shaming him, just pointing out that his longevity and proclivity towards injury are going to be affected by his weight. Just seems that baseball management should have some sort of weight goals to enforce with their players.

Are the Giants' fans expecting Panda 2, the sequel?

[Bellhorn04]

35 minutes ago, king koji said:

I agree. That's poor sportsmanship. And terrible. I will humbly heed your warning.

Love Raffy forever.

So taking the sarcasm route, nice.

We're pretty tolerant here but there are limits, too.  It's up to you if you want to stick around or not.