Trades?

[Duran Is The Man]

FA after this year.

 

No brainer.

 

Extend him or trade him.

 

(We could even trade him, then re-sign him, this winter.)

 

gotcha. didn't realize he was FA after this season.

[moonslav59]

gotcha. didn't realize he was FA after this season.

 

My point is, he should net a better prospect than what some are suggesting.

 

Jansen, too.

 

O'Neill and Martin need to show something, first.

[Larry Cook]

Jansen and Martin (when healthy) should be able to get us two top 25 prospects!

[Deja Doh]

You guys are thinking small. There is no need to trade any of our pitchers. The teams has a bunch of poor offensive players. We have no pop. We need a player who can be a run producing machine. We do not have that. Both Salmon and Alonso fit that description. In division trades aren't going to give us this either. The only other infielder that could be had is Tim Anderson and he's having an off year with the Marlins.

[notin]

You guys are thinking small. There is no need to trade any of our pitchers. The teams has a bunch of poor offensive players. We have no pop. We need a player who can be a run producing machine. We do not have that. Both Salmon and Alonso fit that description. In division trades aren't going to give us this either. The only other infielder that could be had is Tim Anderson and he's having an off year with the Marlins.

 

Tim Salmon retired after 2006.

 

I assume you mean Mike Trout as the other piscine Angel. But Trout is owed some $228mil over the next 6 years and has only played 237 games from 2021 through 2023…

Edited June 12, 2024 by notin

[Bellhorn04]

You guys are thinking small. There is no need to trade any of our pitchers.

 

We're not thinking small, man, we're thinking cynical.

 

Pivetta and Jansen are going to be traded because the 2024 team isn't going anywhere, it wasn't designed to go anywhere, their contracts expire at the end of the year and we'll get some prospects back for them.

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

You guys are thinking small. There is no need to trade any of our pitchers. The teams has a bunch of poor offensive players. We have no pop. We need a player who can be a run producing machine. We do not have that. Both Salmon and Alonso fit that description. In division trades aren't going to give us this either. The only other infielder that could be had is Tim Anderson and he's having an off year with the Marlins.

 

Bo Bichette: having a blah season - .240/.635 - and is a free agent in 2026... if Toronto sells, the Sox have to look into acquiring a 26-year old All-Star hitter with a swing made for Fenway Park. He's not a good shortstop, but neither is anyone else in Boston this year, and can move to second base when Mayer takes over or Story comes back.

 

Three of the Jays top five prospects are middle infielders, including two at Triple A, so Bichette just may be available. Toronto's outfield is getting old, and can use a guy like Abreu. Throw in Hamilton (having a better year than Bo) as a stopgap SS. Who else?

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

Bo Bichette: having a blah season - .240/.635 - and is a free agent in 2026... if Toronto sells, the Sox have to look into acquiring a 26-year old All-Star hitter with a swing made for Fenway Park. He's not a good shortstop, but neither is anyone else in Boston this year, and can move to second base when Mayer takes over or Story comes back.

 

Three of the Jays top five prospects are middle infielders, including two at Triple A, so Bichette just may be available. Toronto's outfield is getting old, and can use a guy like Abreu. Throw in Hamilton (having a better year than Bo) as a stopgap SS. Who else?

 

Bo Bichette's Most Similar Batter: Dick Lundy, who starred for the Atlantic City Bacharach Giants a hundred years ago. Lundy also hit .381 for the Baltimore Black Sox, and played for the Pittsburgh Crawfords, Newark Dodgers, New York Cubans and Newark Eagles. There's always a spot for a good hitter...

[Randy Red Sox]

Bo Bichette: having a blah season - .240/.635 - and is a free agent in 2026... if Toronto sells, the Sox have to look into acquiring a 26-year old All-Star hitter with a swing made for Fenway Park. He's not a good shortstop, but neither is anyone else in Boston this year, and can move to second base when Mayer takes over or Story comes back.

 

Three of the Jays top five prospects are middle infielders, including two at Triple A, so Bichette just may be available. Toronto's outfield is getting old, and can use a guy like Abreu. Throw in Hamilton (having a better year than Bo) as a stopgap SS. Who else?

 

Hamilton and Abreu for Bichette--ha ha. Jays wouldn't even pick up the phone.

[Randy Red Sox]

We're not thinking small, man, we're thinking cynical.

 

Pivetta and Jansen are going to be traded because the 2024 team isn't going anywhere, it wasn't designed to go anywhere, their contracts expire at the end of the year and we'll get some prospects back for them.

 

maybe lower end prospects.

[Hugh2]

maybe lower end prospects.

 

They're not getting a top 25 prospect, but people over pay for pitching at the deadline, if those guys are pitching well the Sox will get back good value for them.

[Hugh2]

Tim Salmon retired after 2006.

 

I assume you mean Mike Trout as the other piscine Angel. But Trout is owed some $228mil over the next 6 years and has only played 237 games from 2021 through 2023…

 

Tim Anderson has been having an off 3 years. This team doesn't have a realistic shot at a world series, and a small chance at a wild card. Unless things drastically change with Casas, Yoshida+ coming back they should sell short term assets.

[Dipre]

Tim Anderson has been having an off 3 years. This team doesn't have a realistic shot at a world series, and a small chance at a wild card. Unless things drastically change with Casas, Yoshida+ coming back they should sell short term assets.

 

Casas and Yoshida are not enough. Health is also an issue for this team. Its main RH power threat is Tyler O, who's liable to be interned in the DL at any given time. I believe with this pitching baseline (never though I would be typing these words in 20 f***ing 24), this team can make the playoffs with an impact RH batter, but I doubt they get him.

[Bellhorn04]

Casas and Yoshida are not enough. Health is also an issue for this team. Its main RH power threat is Tyler O, who's liable to be interned in the DL at any given time. I believe with this pitching baseline (never though I would be typing these words in 20 f***ing 24), this team can make the playoffs with an impact RH batter, but I doubt they get him.

 

This team does not want to try to make the playoffs. They want to sell off, save a few bucks and add some prospects.

 

Bloom got fired for his deadline confusion. They don't want any of that this year.

[Dipre]

This team does not want to try to make the playoffs. They want to sell off, save a few bucks and add some prospects.

 

Bloom got fired for his deadline confusion. They don't want any of that this year.

 

The problem is the uncertainty. We really don't know what their plan actually is.

[Bellhorn04]

The problem is the uncertainty. We really don't know what their plan actually is.

 

I think we do know a few things based on the last offseason. They had no intention of investing very heavily in 2024.

 

Plus I think what I said about why Bloom was fired is a fair statement. There's no way Breslow wants to repeat the same mistake.

 

And they have plenty of cover with all the injuries.

[Randy Red Sox]

They're not getting a top 25 prospect, but people over pay for pitching at the deadline, if those guys are pitching well the Sox will get back good value for them.

 

pivetta imo has more value to the Sox than anything he will bring in a trade.

[Dipre]

I think we do know a few things based on the last offseason. They had no intention of investing very heavily in 2024.

 

Plus I think what I said about why Bloom was fired is a fair statement. There's no way Breslow wants to repeat the same mistake.

 

And they have plenty of cover with all the injuries.

 

Then again, they don't have to invest heavily, that's what pisses me off the most. The pitching is performing well, once Casas and your favorite player, Masataka Yoshida return, an impact RH bat at pretty much any position, and they can set this team to sink or swim. They don't need to absorb a massive amount of money.

[Bellhorn04]

pivetta imo has more value to the Sox than anything he will bring in a trade.

 

But that doesn't matter much if the 2024 team is going nowhere.

 

The last 2 years they could have gotten a load of stuff by selling but they passed. I don't think they want to go for a 3-peat.

[Bellhorn04]

Then again, they don't have to invest heavily, that's what pisses me off the most. The pitching is performing well, once Casas and your favorite player, Masataka Yoshida return, an impact RH bat at pretty much any position, and they can set this team to sink or swim. They don't need to absorb a massive amount of money.

 

It would certainly help if the few relatively big moves they do make, like signing Giolito and trading Sale for Grissom, didn't blow up in their faces. But it keeps happening.

[Dipre]

It would certainly help if the few relatively big moves they do make, like signing Giolito and trading Sale for Grissom, didn't blow up in their faces. But it keeps happening.

 

Sale for Grissom is still an incomplete grade for me. I don't trust Sale's health. Otherwise, they don't have big moves to even grade. They've done basically nothing of note.

[Old Red]

It would certainly help if the few relatively big moves they do make, like signing Giolito and trading Sale for Grissom, didn't blow up in their faces. But it keeps happening.

 

We had the curse of the Bambino for many years, and now it’s the curse of Mookie. He’s stayed GOOD, and healthy, and Ted Sox players have dropped like flies since he left.🤫

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

Hamilton and Abreu for Bichette--ha ha. Jays wouldn't even pick up the phone.

 

True, they might be embarrassed: Hamilton and Abreu are a combined 3.2 WAR already... while Bichette's a NEGATIVE WAR: -0.1

 

Three more wins and the Jays leap over the Sox into 3rd place.

[Dipre]

We had the curse of the Bambino for many years, and now it’s the curse of Mookie. He’s stayed GOOD, and healthy, and Ted Sox players have dropped like flies since he left.

 

We're talking about curses in 2024 bruh? Then again, we might be afflicted with the curse of the reptilian owner.

[Bellhorn04]

We're talking about curses in 2024 bruh? Then again, we might be afflicted with the curse of the reptilian owner.

 

And his latest comments about unrealistic expectations and 1 in 30 chances were reptilian to the max.

[Hugh2]

pivetta imo has more value to the Sox than anything he will bring in a trade.

 

What good is that value if the team doesn't even make the playoffs? he's a free agent at the end of the year.

[Hugh2]

Casas and Yoshida are not enough. Health is also an issue for this team. Its main RH power threat is Tyler O, who's liable to be interned in the DL at any given time. I believe with this pitching baseline (never though I would be typing these words in 20 f***ing 24), this team can make the playoffs with an impact RH batter, but I doubt they get him.

 

It could be enough if someone like O'Neil got hot again, but again, that is contingent on getting healthy, and everyone STAYING healthy, with no real regression elsewhere. Odds are small.

[Hugh2]

We had the curse of the Bambino for many years, and now it’s the curse of Mookie. He’s stayed GOOD, and healthy, and Ted Sox players have dropped like flies since he left.狼

 

Who says' Mookie cursed us?

 

Stop it! don't talk that into existence.

[notin]

Hamilton and Abreu for Bichette--ha ha. Jays wouldn't even pick up the phone.

 

Then they would never know what a great deal they were being offered, according to BTV.

 

Per that site, Bo Bichette (21.8) isn’t enough to get Wilyer Abreu (29.8) alone, let alone with David Hamilton (11.8)…

[mvp 78]

Then they would never know what a great deal they were being offered, according to BTV.

 

Per that site, Bo Bichette (21.8) isn’t enough to get Wilyer Abreu (29.8) alone, let alone with David Hamilton (11.8)…

 

Abreu is a much better hitter than Bichette this season too.