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Best wishes in Atlanta to Chris Sale. He had a possible Hall of Fame career derailed by a series of injuries. Only Rafael Devers remains from that championship season.
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lol!

 

So we basically swapped Sale for Giolito and Grissham, this week.

With the Red Sox sending $17 million to the Braves, for the next six seasons the Sox effectively will be paying nearly $3 million annually over Grissom's actual salary ... if Grissom sticks in the majors.

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With the Red Sox sending $17 million to the Braves, for the next six seasons the Sox effectively will be paying nearly $3 million annually over Grissom's actual salary ... if Grissom sticks in the majors.

 

I’d prefer Sale at $3M.

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Young Grissom -- good bat, bad glove -- sounds an awful lot like E.Valdez... in other words, maybe not the answer to shore up the infield D (especially since rumor has it he was playing outfield in the winter league). But he has potential and is under control for many years at big league minimum...

 

Sox paying Braves to take Sale shows how much Brez really wanted to move on from the Deadwood Forest.

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We can never have enough reclamation jobs for you?

 

Well he’s young with 4 more years control, but I don’t think Yorke would do it.

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Did Chris Sale face a difficult decision to waive his no-trade rights to land in Atlanta?

 

Probably not. I think he liked it in Boston but he's getting traded to a better team.

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Assuming we're sending $17M to the Braves for Sale, Sox paid him $104.5M for 151 innings pitched the last three years. For a team now concerned about money, we sure have pissed away much. And that's the bottom line. That money wasted would have paid for 3 years of Mookie. Edited by Nick
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Sale will probably go 15-3 with a 2.5 ERA just because we traded him

 

Better than trading him to the Rays or Jays or Orioles, I guess.

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Better than trading him to the Rays or Jays or Orioles, I guess.

 

Even though Sale has a good team behind him the big question of course is IF he can stay healthy. Maybe a change of scenery will change his luck. If so good for him, and the Braves will get even better, and could possibly get Sale for 2yrs/ $30M.

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Seems like Grissom gets on base a lot. But his power and fielding hasn’t been there. Not sure I like this deal.

 

His fielding as a shortstop has been lacking. He always looked like a better option at 2b. But the Braves are all set at that position with one of the best players on the most team friendly contracts in the game. So Grissom has been without a position in their organization for a while now…

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His fielding as a shortstop has been lacking. He always looked like a better option at 2b. But the Braves are all set at that position with one of the best players on the most team friendly contracts in the game. So Grissom has been without a position in their organization for a while now…

Bad glove, bad arm, or both?

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We can never have enough reclamation jobs for you?

 

You think a 25yo pitcher with one bad season is a reclamation project?

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Bad glove, bad arm, or both?

 

Bad range. Fringe arm. He doesn’t cover SS that well. That’s ok. The Sox don’t need him there…

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Bad range. Fringe arm. He doesn’t cover SS that well. That’s ok. The Sox don’t need him there…

 

But will he be an upgrade on D at 2B?

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Bad range. Fringe arm. He doesn’t cover SS that well. That’s ok. The Sox don’t need him there…

 

Sounds like a great acquisition. What's his rap sheet like?

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As a stand alone move it's ******** for sure. All I've heard for two years now is wait until Yorke is ready. Looks to me as though he should be gone all of a sudden. It is possible that our defense up the middle just got worse.

I will freely admit that I am a huge fan of Chris Sales. Yesterday and today. When healthy one of my top 3 or 4 to ever pitch in fenway. I will miss him.

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As a stand alone move it's ******** for sure. All I've heard for two years now is wait until Yorke is ready. Looks to me as though he should be gone all of a sudden. It is possible that our defense up the middle just got worse.

I will freely admit that I am a huge fan of Chris Sales. Yesterday and today. When healthy one of my top 3 or 4 to ever pitch in fenway. I will miss him.

 

I can see that.

 

I don’t know of this means they’ve given up on Yorke or this simply doesn’t impact him. Yorke wasn’t likely to debut this year, and might wind up someplace other than 2b (which at one point was the trajectory). He also might be trade bait for a pitcher.

 

Possible there was enough interest in Yorke that Grissom was a pre-emotive strike?

 

Or maybe we assume too much, and Grissom will be the player on the move for pitching…

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As a stand alone move it's ******** for sure. All I've heard for two years now is wait until Yorke is ready. Looks to me as though he should be gone all of a sudden. It is possible that our defense up the middle just got worse.

I will freely admit that I am a huge fan of Chris Sales. Yesterday and today. When healthy one of my top 3 or 4 to ever pitch in fenway. I will miss him.

 

 

From 2016-2018, Sale, after Pedro and Clemens, was the third best SP on the Sox in the past half century. But he simply has not been the same since 2018. Since then he’s been an injury waiting to happen. During an offseason long hunt for SP, almost no one on this forum ever reminded us “we do still have Chris Sale, you know.”

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