2023 draft thread

[Deja Doh]

Can this thread be retitled 2023 Draft?

[moonslav59]

They drafted him not because he was a catcher, but because he was the best rated talent available, and a guy who should not have been available at 14

 

Exactly. Had he been a SS, they'd have taken him, instead.

 

SS taken 12, 13 and 15th.

Edited July 10, 2023 by moonslav59

[Randy Red Sox]

me too

I can get behind this pick

[Randy Red Sox]

Well he's NOT a SS--Sox system is lacking as bad at the C position as they are at P. They drafted Teel because he was a C and ranked higher then they were picking. Bloom shocked the MLB world again.

Exactly. Had he been a SS, they'd have taken him, instead.

[moonslav59]

I'm not complaining, but catcher draft picks are very hard to get right.

[Randy Red Sox]

Nonetheless they drafted him as a C first.

They drafted him not because he was a catcher, but because he was the best rated talent available, and a guy who should not have been available at 14

[Randy Red Sox]

Another SP drafted at #16. So much for the theory that teams don't value P in the 1st rd. Bloom needs to focus on power arms now.

[Randy Red Sox]

well maybe those teams don't have the same M/L depth the Sox do

[Randy Red Sox]

MLB pulled off a GREAT move by letting that kid make the Mariner's 1st rd pick. Very inspiring. Well done MLB !!

[Hugh2]

Another SP drafted at #16. So much for the theory that teams don't value P in the 1st rd. Bloom needs to focus on power arms now.

 

There’s no theory that teams don’t value pitchers. It’s just a fact that pitchers bust more often than hitters in the first round, ESPECIALLY high school pitchers. A pitcher in a later round is more likely to pop than a hitter. None of these laws are absolute obviously.

[Hugh2]

MLB pulled off a GREAT move by letting that kid make the Mariner's 1st rd pick. Very inspiring. Well done MLB !!

 

I hate myself for this but it actually almost ALMOST brought a tear to my eye when he came out.

 

Damn you MLB for giving me the feels!

[Nick]

Where will Teal be placed in 2024? High A?

[moonslav59]

Another SP drafted at #16. So much for the theory that teams don't value P in the 1st rd. Bloom needs to focus on power arms now.

 

Nobody said that was a theory.

[a700hitter]

They drafted him not because he was a catcher, but because he was the best rated talent available, and a guy who should not have been available at 14

Same reason that they drafted Blake Swihart.

[Duran Is The Man]

next up is Bloom with his shock the world pick. Waldrep or Steele will make me happy.

 

i was hoping for Waldrep too.

[Hugh2]

Scouting grades: Hit: 55 | Power: 45 | Run: 50 | Arm: 65 | Field: 50 | Overall: 55

 

Teel was a very good high school prospect in New Jersey, one who was considered a Top 100 talent, until he removed his name from Draft consideration during the pandemic-shortened 2020 season in order to honor his commitment to the University of Virginia. He’s been a full-time starter since he arrived in Charlottesville, putting up better numbers as a freshman than he did as a sophomore and is generally considered to be the top college backstop in the class of 2023.

 

A left-handed-hitting backstop, Teel has the chance to hit for average and power, though he’s gotten caught a bit in between trying to be a hitter with some pop or a power guy. He was more hit over power in high school, but he has been trying to show off the pop more, perhaps a reason why he hit just .276 in 2022, though he’s found the right balance this spring. He does have an advanced approach, walking more than he struck out last year, and while struggles in the Cape Cod League and with Team USA last summer led some to worry about the hit tool, he’s answered them during his junior year.

 

Extremely athletic, Teel has seen time in the outfield and probably could handle playing second or third, but he has every chance to stick behind the plate. He has an easily plus arm and his athleticism helps his overall receiving. He gets high marks for his baseball IQ and leadership skills, and with his bat showing up more consistently, his name is floating up Draft boards.

[moonslav59]

MLB had him ranked #7.

[moonslav59]

The second pick is in:

#50 Pick

Nazzan Zanetello SS (HS)

 

MLB had him ranked #52.

 

They wrote:

Zanetello climbed up Draft boards with a strong showcase circuit, beginning with MVP honors at the Breakthrough Series in June. He stood out in athletic testing at the PDP League in July, raked at the World Wood Bat Association World Championship in October and led Team USA in hitting (.429) at an 18-and-under World Cup qualifying tournament in November. Scouts love his five-tool potential as well as his makeup. Zanetello has a wiry 6-foot-2 frame with room to add more muscle, and his strong hands and wrists produce plenty of bat speed and 25-homer potential. He doesn't have the prettiest right-handed swing but makes a lot of hard contact. He also shows good control of the strike zone and produced against quality pitching throughout the summer. While Zanetello has clocked run times that earn grades from anywhere from 45 to 70 on the 20-80 scouting scale, the consensus is that he'll probably have solid speed once he's physically mature. His athleticism and strong arm help him make plays at shortstop, where he projects as an average defender. The Arkansas commit has looked solid in stints in center field and should provide similar glovework if he shifts to third base.

 

 

Next picks, tomorrow:

#83

#115

#132 (comp)

#133 (comp)

 

[Duran Is The Man]

The second pick is in:

#50 Pick

Nazzan Zanetello SS (HS)

 

MLB had him ranked #52.

 

They wrote:

Zanetello climbed up Draft boards with a strong showcase circuit, beginning with MVP honors at the Breakthrough Series in June. He stood out in athletic testing at the PDP League in July, raked at the World Wood Bat Association World Championship in October and led Team USA in hitting (.429) at an 18-and-under World Cup qualifying tournament in November. Scouts love his five-tool potential as well as his makeup. Zanetello has a wiry 6-foot-2 frame with room to add more muscle, and his strong hands and wrists produce plenty of bat speed and 25-homer potential. He doesn't have the prettiest right-handed swing but makes a lot of hard contact. He also shows good control of the strike zone and produced against quality pitching throughout the summer. While Zanetello has clocked run times that earn grades from anywhere from 45 to 70 on the 20-80 scouting scale, the consensus is that he'll probably have solid speed once he's physically mature. His athleticism and strong arm help him make plays at shortstop, where he projects as an average defender. The Arkansas commit has looked solid in stints in center field and should provide similar glovework if he shifts to third base.

 

 

Next picks, tomorrow:

#83

#115

#132 (comp)

#133 (comp)

 

 

 

as a huge Arkansas Razorback and Red Sox fan, i can't help but feel upset and excited at the same time. sucks for the Hogs but awesome for the Sox.

[moonslav59]

as a huge Arkansas Razorback and Red Sox fan, i can't help but feel upset and excited at the same time. sucks for the Hogs but awesome for the Sox.

 

Players sometime choose college over a signing bonus.

[Randy Red Sox]

i am ok with either since the Sox need C prospects as well

i was hoping for Waldrep too.

[Duran Is The Man]

Players sometime choose college over a signing bonus.

 

of course. it's all good either way.

[Nick]

What would the comp picks have been had Bloom not screwed up the tax limit?

[Hugh2]

What would the comp picks have been had Bloom not screwed up the tax limit?

 

End of the second round I believe

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

In Kyle Teel, the Sox not only picked the top-rated catcher in the draft, "he instantly becomes the top catching prospect for the Boston Red Sox" according to NESN's draft reporter.

 

Teel's overall athleticism has drawn comparisons to Buster Posey... and Craig Biggio -- oh. One college coach said he believes Teel could be an All-Star second baseman in the bigs.

 

But all to those posters who weren't in the Red Sox conference room with all their scouts and farmers -- and yet are convinced every team always just picks the best player when it's their turn -- consider this: Teel was described as the top college catcher.

 

Meanwhile, Boston's second pick at #50, Nazzan Zanetello, reportedly has "five-tool potential" ... and the Sox front office is already saying the high school shortstop will immediately get reps in centerfield at the start of his pro career.

[Hugh2]

In Kyle Teel, the Sox not only picked the top-rated catcher in the draft, "he instantly becomes the top catching prospect for the Boston Red Sox" according to NESN's draft reporter.

 

Teel's overall athleticism has drawn comparisons to Buster Posey... and Craig Biggio -- oh. One college coach said he believes Teel could be an All-Star second baseman in the bigs.

 

But all to those posters who weren't in the Red Sox conference room with all their scouts and farmers -- and yet are convinced every team always just picks the best player when it's their turn -- consider this: Teel was described as the top college catcher.

 

Meanwhile, Boston's second pick at #50, Nazzan Zanetello, reportedly has "five-tool potential" ... and the Sox front office is already saying the high school shortstop will immediately get reps in centerfield at the start of his pro career.

 

He's young and very far away, but Johanfran Garcia has got some serious helium, only 18 and shot up to #16 on soxprospects. Still, I think Teel will probably rank somewhere in the 7-9 range. Sox now have two good catching prospects in their system. Tell, being closer to the bigs despite not being signed yet.

[moonslav59]

Is Hickey not considered a catching prospect, anymore?

[mvp 78]

Is Hickey not considered a catching prospect, anymore?

 

He is. Why?

[Hugh2]

He's a prospect in that he's young and in the minors, but he's a real low shot guy. His fielding is not good, and he can't throw guys out, putting a LOT of pressure on his bat. Yes' he's hitting in the minors but not mashing, and hitting in the majors is the hardest thing to do.

 

I don't get too excited about Nathan Hickey, I think he is a future MLBer, but he's not a starter, he's not the caliber of player.

[Hugh2]

Think of it this way, proximity to the majors means a lot in prospect ranking and value, it's why someone like Drohan is ranked about Perales, and Garcia is ranked 4 spots above Hickey despite being 5 years younger only in the FCL. Being so far away makes it a long shot for him, but the ceiling is much much higher. I'm a risk taker, I like ceiling over proximity to majors. Teel gives us a better prospect, with ceiling and more development. Could be in the majors in 3 years.