Red Sox Acquire Drew Pomeranz

[a700hitter]

I was grouchier before I retired. Sleep deprivation is very bad. LOL!

[mvp 78]

That's what the Sox are betting on.

I hope they're right.

 

But, it ignores the fact he's never pitched more than 100 innings until this year.

There's no doubt he makes the team better.

Will he still make the team better after anoth 70 innings?

Again, I hope the Sox are right.

 

The rest can continue with the moronic "Pomeranz sucks" posts.

 

No, I get it. There are some serious concerns with Pomeranz. I just don't believe this was an overpay. It seems like there aren't any pitchers available that don't have any concerns.

 

It all goes back to the point that it's easier to find pitching in the offseason and they should have grabbed another guy then.

[moonslav59]

No, I get it. There are some serious concerns with Pomeranz. I just don't believe this was an overpay. It seems like there aren't any pitchers available that don't have any concerns.

 

It all goes back to the point that it's easier to find pitching in the offseason and they should have grabbed another guy then.

 

Agreed, and wonder of wonders, Pomeranz was available for pennies on the dollar just months ago.

[Dojji]

If we'd acquired Pomeranz those months ago, he would have been slated for the bullpen. Could he have stretched out in Boston and still be the same dominant ace type he was? Not as easily as he did in SD.

[mvp 78]

Agreed, and wonder of wonders, Pomeranz was available for pennies on the dollar just months ago.

 

Back when he was only a 2 pitch pitcher, which he isn't now.

[SoxnCycles]

Agreed, and wonder of wonders, Pomeranz was available for pennies on the dollar just months ago.

 

People would've flipped because we didn't get a "proven starter".

[mvp 78]

If we'd acquired Pomeranz those months ago, he would have been slated for the bullpen. Could he have stretched out in Boston and still be the same dominant ace type he was? Not as easily as he did in SD.

 

Why not? The spot was open in the first few weeks. It was Pomeranz who requested the opportunity to start. If he had shown the ability to start in spring training, Dombrowski/Farrell have shown the willingness to give new guys a chance.

[moonslav59]

Why not? The spot was open in the first few weeks. It was Pomeranz who requested the opportunity to start. If he had shown the ability to start in spring training, Dombrowski/Farrell have shown the willingness to give new guys a chance.

 

We could have taken 2 months to convert him back to a SP'er, if needed.

 

I know he developed another pitch.

 

We know he's had a nice 17 starts or so this year.

 

But, if this guy is as good as many feel he is, shouldn't someone have noticed that potential just 4-5 short months ago.

[mvp 78]

We could have taken 2 months to convert him back to a SP'er, if needed.

 

I know he developed another pitch.

 

We know he's had a nice 17 starts or so this year.

 

But, if this guy is as good as many feel he is, shouldn't someone have noticed that potential just 4-5 short months ago.

 

So BEFORE he developed his new pitch? I guess the Padres were the only ones with a working crystal ball.

[Kimmi]

But if you worry about "potential value," you'd never trade any prospect because the future is uncertain.

 

Not true at all. That statement really makes no sense.

 

Espinoza for Sale makes sense. Espinoza for Buchholz does not.

[Bellhorn04]

We could have taken 2 months to convert him back to a SP'er, if needed.

 

I know he developed another pitch.

 

We know he's had a nice 17 starts or so this year.

 

But, if this guy is as good as many feel he is, shouldn't someone have noticed that potential just 4-5 short months ago.

 

A lot of unpredictable stuff happens in baseball. Nobody foresaw Wright pitching like this either. There are examples all over the place of guys suddenly finding something that makes them perform much better. It seems to be the nature of the game.

[Nick]

I'm enjoying watching Pomeranz pitch and Buchholtz sitting in the bullpen bench.

[jad]

I'm enjoying watching Pomeranz pitch and Buchholtz sitting in the bullpen bench.

 

Ah. I see you posted that after the third. How are you enjoying this now?

[oldtimer]

Hold the presses. Pomeranz imploded while Farrell fumed, or is that Nero fiddled while Rome burned. No idea what happened in the 4th, but someone needs to figure it out soon. Our starting rotation got a lot iffier, if that is a word.

[d-money]

Can someone tell me if pomeranz had any velocity on his pitches tonight?

[d-money]

Hold the presses. Pomeranz imploded while Farrell fumed, or is that Nero fiddled while Rome burned. No idea what happened in the 4th, but someone needs to figure it out soon. Our starting rotation got a lot iffier, if that is a word.

 

Let's give the guy a couple of more starts before we bury him.

[bowman]

90 to 92 tops, a lot of off speed stuff.

[d-money]

90 to 92 tops, a lot of off speed stuff.

 

I still don't understand why his velocity decreased. He was throwing harder last year. Man i hope he bounce back.

[Nick]

Ah. I see you posted that after the third. How are you enjoying this now?[/quote

 

Well it's very unfortunate. But we have him for three years so I will reserve my judgement until he starts at least 2 games.

[moonslav59]

Let's not judge Pom Pom based on 1 start.

 

Remember, SF was the best team in MLB before facing us.

[iortiz]

Let's not judge Pom Pom based on 1 start.

 

Remember, SF was the best team in MLB before facing us.

Yup. He was pitching well and somehow he collapsed.

 

My guess is that he relaxed a bit --or a lot-- after that 8-0 lead.

[d-money]

Yup. He was pitching well and somehow he collapsed.

 

My guess is that he relaxed a bit --or a lot-- after that 8-0 lead.

 

I am worried about that velocity though.

[moonslav59]

Different radar guns in the AL.

 

Just kiddin'

[User Name]

First-game jitters.

[Jack Flap]

Let's not judge Pom Pom based on 1 start.

 

Remember, SF was the best team in MLB before facing us.

 

True. I wouldn't judge anyone based on one start...let's see how he's doing a couple months from now.

[Maxbialystock]

I agree with those urging caution vs. rush to judgment. Nevertheless, it is clear Farrell was not impressed. Given the 8-0 lead, he could have left Pomeranz in a little longer.

[Bellhorn04]

I agree with those urging caution vs. rush to judgment. Nevertheless, it is clear Farrell was not impressed. Given the 8-0 lead, he could have left Pomeranz in a little longer.

 

Pomeranz faced 7 hitters in the 4th and retired none of them...that's going to get anyone hooked.

[Emp9]

I think that was also the 4th time SanFran saw Pomeranz this season, not to mention they're a good hitting team. He cruised the first time through the order, but then sat for a long time while the offense scored runs. My hope is while looking at the game tape he notices that there's a pretty good defense behind him. With that kind of a lead, just throw strikes man.

[Jack Flap]

Is there a particular benchmark people would like to see met for this to be a successful trade? I think expecting Pomeranz to stay mostly healthy (say, averaging better than 28 starts per year) with an ERA under 4 between now and the end of 2018 would be more than fair.

[Jack Flap]

I agree with those urging caution vs. rush to judgment. Nevertheless, it is clear Farrell was not impressed. Given the 8-0 lead, he could have left Pomeranz in a little longer.

 

The 8-run lead was only a 3-run lead by the time he was pulled.