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Posted
5 hours ago, UtahSox said:

I’m on record saying Pete is the perfect fit…. But he’s also a perfect fit on a few teams. So assuming his agent plays games, I do think Bichette really could be the guy, look at his stats at Fenway. I love how he doesn’t strike out. I know his concerns at SS are range, not arm strength. Easily could be our 3b. Pairing him with Marte would be a very strong pairing and give Casas a chance to figure it out at 1st, if not you could go get willson Contreras or Yandy Diaz later in season.

Perfect? Alonso is far from perfect.

For someone who has 80 power he certainly doesn’t walk enough, he doesn’t hit for average or fringe average at best.  He clogs up the bases, and his a fringe to below average defender.

what Alonso does do well, is hit home runs. But I think he’s getting overhyped by a lot of people here because of the power.

this is coming from someone who likes Alonso and would welcome an Alonso signing.

Posted
3 hours ago, Hugh2 said:

Bo Bichette is getting $240 give or take.  

Maybe, and if some is differed, maybe the AAV can get near $30M. Or, just make it $240/8.

I am not for paying that much for a 14-18 HR guy, who should not play SS.

Posted
3 hours ago, Hugh2 said:

Perfect? Alonso is far from perfect.

For someone who has 80 power he certainly doesn’t walk enough, he doesn’t hit for average or fringe average at best.  He clogs up the bases, and his a fringe to below average defender.

what Alonso does do well, is hit home runs. But I think he’s getting overhyped by a lot of people here because of the power.

this is coming from someone who likes Alonso and would welcome an Alonso signing.

He's a bottom 5 defender and should DH, but we need power.

Welcome to Boston, Pete!

Posted

We need 2 of those 4 (not Realmuto.)

I was listening to Merloni, who was saying the Sox see players differently than the fans. They may see Realmuto as a decent middle order bat, just like they see Gray as a solid #1-2 SP'er.

They look at numbers we don't. "They are poor at communicating what they think."

I'd add K Marte to the list over Realmuto.

1. K Marte

2. Schwarber

3. Alonso

T4. Bregman, Okamoto, Bichett (maybe Polanco, if we want to go cheaper)

Posted

Has J.T. Realmuto played any 1st base? It crossed my mind in an unlikely plan they'd want him for that spot instead...

Posted
2 hours ago, moonslav59 said:

He's a bottom 5 defender and should DH, but we need power.

Welcome to Boston, Pete!

I’m sure this will be taken the wrong way around here but power is over rated.  A guy could literally be average to suck in every facet of the game but if he hits a HR once a week he’s a must have MOTO bat?

 

Posted
2 hours ago, moonslav59 said:

Maybe, and if some is differed, maybe the AAV can get near $30M. Or, just make it $240/8.

I am not for paying that much for a 14-18 HR guy, who should not play SS.

14-18????

Posted
15 minutes ago, Hugh2 said:

14-18????

He hit 18 in 2015.

He hit 4 in 2024 (half season) so about 8 pro-rated. That's an average of 13 per season from '24 to '25.

He averages about 22 a year from '22-23.

I'm okay with saying 16-20 or 17-22 thanks to Fenway.

Posted
16 minutes ago, Hugh2 said:

I’m sure this will be taken the wrong way around here but power is over rated. 

I've never been a guy who strikeouts didn't bother, even if I could hit a homer once in awhile.

But I agree with Breslow that successful playoff teams need HRs -- and that the Red Sox need MORE HRs.

In the '25 postseason, any time a game was close in the late innings, it became home run derby (it doesn't mean a homer decided it, but most of the batters tried to go yard to decide it).

And you just had to favor the club with the most longball guys: LA wins the World Series on a home run by Smith, after a dinger by Rojas ties it -- over the Blue Jays, who won the pennant on a home run by Springer.

The lone exception was the Wild Card series in the Bronx between two overrateds, which for all intents and purposes was decided because Jazz was scoring on contact, and Eaton was not...

Posted
19 minutes ago, Hugh2 said:

I’m sure this will be taken the wrong way around here but power is over rated.  A guy could literally be average to suck in every facet of the game but if he hits a HR once a week he’s a must have MOTO bat?

 

A .347 OBP is not bad, these days. (.341 career)

.347 would have been second on the Sox behind a guy who is as good as gone (Bregman.)

If you believe in clutch, he has led the league in RBI, before and has 126, this year.

His .524 SLG blew all Sox players away. It was 60 points more than Bregman and 80 above Duran.

He's more than just a HR hitter.

Posted
10 minutes ago, moonslav59 said:

He hit 18 in 2015.

He hit 4 in 2024 (half season) so about 8 pro-rated. That's an average of 13 per season from '24 to '25.

He averages about 22 a year from '22-23.

I'm okay with saying 16-20 or 17-22 thanks to Fenway.

Power peaks in late 20’s.  Maybe he adds a lot more? Maybe it’s 25-30

Posted
2 minutes ago, moonslav59 said:

I'm done with "maybes."

I mean, isn’t 18 or predicting he will hit less than he has recently (besides one half injury season) kind of a maybe issue in of itself?

Posted
3 minutes ago, Hugh2 said:

I mean, isn’t 18 or predicting he will hit less than he has recently (besides one half injury season) kind of a maybe issue in of itself?

He can hit 24-26 and still not fill the power need.

24 is 12 more than we got from 2B and 2 more than we got from 3B.

If we get Alonso or Schwarber plus Bichette, fine. I still think $240M/7 or 8 is too much. I might prefer Bregman at $150/5 of $170M/6. Polanco at $70-80M/4 might be best, because then we can afford Alonso, Schwarber or K Marte.

Posted
57 minutes ago, moonslav59 said:

MIL looking to cut salary.

Peralta is a one & done, so maybe not too expensive.

I thought peralta had an option for only 8 million 

Posted
5 hours ago, moonslav59 said:

He can hit 24-26 and still not fill the power need.

24 is 12 more than we got from 2B and 2 more than we got from 3B.

If we get Alonso or Schwarber plus Bichette, fine. I still think $240M/7 or 8 is too much. I might prefer Bregman at $150/5 of $170M/6. Polanco at $70-80M/4 might be best, because then we can afford Alonso, Schwarber or K Marte.

people need to stop with the Schwarber dream. No way DD lets the Sox outbid him for Schwarber

Posted
45 minutes ago, Randy Red Sox said:

people need to stop with the Schwarber dream. No way DD lets the Sox outbid him for Schwarber

Maybe DD wants some other high-priced FA instead.

That could be a way

Posted
6 hours ago, moonslav59 said:

MIL looking to cut salary.

Peralta is a one & done, so maybe not too expensive.

if Mil is looking to cut payroll, then Peralta won't be on the block.  The correct target for the RS should be Woodruff, pending a huge drill-down into his medicals.  Peralta, at $8M, is going to cost a lot of prospects.  Woodruff, at $22M, will cost a lot less.

Posted
23 hours ago, moonslav59 said:

I think Mayer+ Harrison gets it done on BTV, or maybe Mayer & Garcia.)

I think if Meyer+ Harrison+ Garcia gets it done……. do it tomorrow. 

Posted
14 hours ago, moonslav59 said:

Maybe, and if some is differed, maybe the AAV can get near $30M. Or, just make it $240/8.

I am not for paying that much for a 14-18 HR guy, who should not play SS.

Doesn’t need to play shortstop, actually won’t play SS. Add in defensively looks a lot better at 2b or 3b. 30m a year is what it’s gonna take to land any of the top 8 bats. In 4 years 30m for a solid hitter will look like a deal. So we just have to do whatever it takes to land 

1 of these 4: Marte, Alonso, Schwarber, Tucker

1 of these 4 : Bregman, Bichette, Bellinger, Polanco.

Posted
10 hours ago, JoeBrady said:

if Mil is looking to cut payroll, then Peralta won't be on the block.  The correct target for the RS should be Woodruff, pending a huge drill-down into his medicals.  Peralta, at $8M, is going to cost a lot of prospects.  Woodruff, at $22M, will cost a lot less.

If MIL can't afford it, don't offer a QO. IDK, they were a playoff team last season, were media darlings for a while and made extra money because of it. Their attendance was 12th highest in baseball as well. If they are looking to cut salary, they need a new owner. Payroll was only 18th in MLB. 

Posted
13 hours ago, moonslav59 said:

Maybe DD wants some other high-priced FA instead.

That could be a way

that would be the only way. Schwarber likely using the Sox to drive up the price for DD.

Posted
14 hours ago, JoeBrady said:

if Mil is looking to cut payroll, then Peralta won't be on the block.  The correct target for the RS should be Woodruff, pending a huge drill-down into his medicals.  Peralta, at $8M, is going to cost a lot of prospects.  Woodruff, at $22M, will cost a lot less.

Actually the Brewers are paying Woodruff $32mill tjis year.  Prior to accepting a QO, Woodruff declined a mutual option and accepted a $10mill buyout.

All the more reason they would prefer moving him over Peralta…

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