Red Sox: Off Season 2024-2025

[notin]

20 hours ago, Bellhorn04 said:

Pretty sure it's just the MFYs.  He really seems to hate them.  Which endears him to me, needless to say.

Bear in mind it’s probably the type of hate that can be assuaged by a $450 million contract…

[mvp 78]

1 hour ago, Hitch said:

Again, it's not happening, but fun to think about. 

I mean, if we only lived in a world about what Henry actually allows, we'll all be having a fervent discussion over whether the Sox should sign Ottavino, Strickland or Neris. 

[Hitch]

48 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

I mean, if we only lived in a world about what Henry actually allows, we'll all be having a fervent discussion over whether the Sox should sign Ottavino, Strickland or Neris. 

Which could be fun in its own way after a couple of bottles of wine.

[Randy Red Sox]

22 hours ago, Bellhorn04 said:

Love to have him, but probably not at his price tag.  

He'll probably be a Met next year.

there is a snowball's chance in hell that Henry will allow this signing

[mvp 78]

Just now, Randy Red Sox said:

there is a snowball's chance in hell that Henry will allow this signing

If it's mostly packed with rocks? 

[mvp 78]

3 minutes ago, Hitch said:

Which could be fun in its own way after a couple of bottles of wine.

That's a migraine for me. You can have the wine, I'll have some bourbon. 

[a700hitter]

Sean Newcomb = another Dumpster Dive

[Randy Red Sox]

17 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

If it's mostly packed with rocks? 

do you actually think Henry will buck up the $$ needed to sign Vlad?? 

[mvp 78]

11 minutes ago, Randy Red Sox said:

do you actually think Henry will buck up the $$ needed to sign Vlad?? 

No clue. They offered 700M for Soto. Do they really want to spend? None of us on here really know either way. 

[mvp 78]

 

[Hitch]

Nice. 👍

[moonslav59]

2 hours ago, Hitch said:

Because we don't know what The Mets will pay, or if they will definitely bid at this point. Nobody guessed that either Shoei or Soto would get anywhere near as high as it went until the process got under way.

 

Plus there's the possibility of serious injury occurring this year.  A huge offer now is plenty enticing.

Thinking the Sox will win any large auction is not something I'm willing to trade value for the chance to find out.

It's easy just say, trade and extend, but Vlad will only extend to very close to what he things he'd get in an auction similar to Soto's. (It was not just the Mets bidding near, at or over $700M.)

[Hitch]

3 minutes ago, moonslav59 said:

Thinking the Sox will win any large auction is not something I'm willing to trade value for the chance to find out.

It's easy just say, trade and extend, but Vlad will only extend to very close to what he things he'd get in an auction similar to Soto's. (It was not just the Mets bidding near, at or over $700M.)

I don't think any player can assume to get an auction similar to Soto's. But the fact it could get big is why trading prospects (which is all they are right now) for real value is sometimes the route taken.

Put it this way, I doubt he says no to 430/450 now. But it could easily spiral next year if teams get desperate. There's no way he knows that right now.

[Bellhorn04]

Vlad is a great hitter but he's a DH - if he gets $450 mill we really are through the looking glass.  

[mvp 78]

45 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

 

I wondered about the option buy out. The club can buy out the option, not the player. 

Duran is already under club control through the 2028 season as a Super Two player. Even if the 2026 option is bought out — which would occur if the Red Sox feel his projected price in the arb process checked in south of the eventual option value — he would remain arbitration-eligible with the Sox for another three seasons.

In addition to his 2025 guarantee, Duran will earn $50K bonuses for reaching 450, 500 and 550 plate appearances. So long as he’s healthy, he should get the $4MM salary at which he filed. (The Red Sox had countered with a $3.5MM submission.)

As for the 2026 option, the base price will reportedly jump to $9MM if Duran finishes between 11th and 20th in AL MVP voting. (He finished eighth on the MVP ballot this past season.) It’ll be a $10MM option if he finishes between sixth and tenth, or an $11MM option if he lands second through fifth. If Duran is named the American League’s Most Valuable Player, the price of that option would jump to $12MM. If Duran is traded at any point between now and season’s end, the option would be eliminated and he’d receive a $100K assignment bonus from the acquiring team rather than the $100K buyout on said option.

[moonslav59]

1 hour ago, Bellhorn04 said:

Vlad is a great hitter but he's a DH - if he gets $450 mill we really are through the looking glass.  

There is a reason Papi was never our top paid player.

[mvp 78]

3 minutes ago, moonslav59 said:

There is a reason Papi was never our top paid player.

He was very close to it at times.

2014:

Napoli 16M (highest paid)

Ortiz 15.5M 

 

[Bellhorn04]

7 minutes ago, moonslav59 said:

There is a reason Papi was never our top paid player.

Those were more sensible times.

[mvp 78]

 

[moonslav59]

Roki signs with Dodgers, of course.

[Old Red]

Roki signs as an Amateur FA. $6.5M signing bonus.

[Duran Is The Man]

1 hour ago, moonslav59 said:

Roki signs with Dodgers, of course.

the least surprising move in the history of baseball. might as well go ahead and give the Dodgers the WS trophy for the next 5 years and get it over with. everyone else is playing for second.

[moonslav59]

17 minutes ago, Duran Is The Man said:

the least surprising move in the history of baseball. might as well go ahead and give the Dodgers the WS trophy for the next 5 years and get it over with. everyone else is playing for second.

Heard the same in 2023.

[dgalehouse]

1 hour ago, moonslav59 said:

Roki signs with Dodgers, of course.

In the words of that great American, Gomer Pyle USMC,  " Surprise, surprise". 

[Duran Is The Man]

1 hour ago, moonslav59 said:

Heard the same in 2023.

and they've upgraded immensely since then. 

[moonslav59]

4 minutes ago, Duran Is The Man said:

and they've upgraded immensely since then. 

That's what they said about 2021, back in 2022.

[Randy Red Sox]

12 hours ago, mvp 78 said:

No clue. They offered 700M for Soto. Do they really want to spend? None of us on here really know either way. 

 

12 hours ago, Bellhorn04 said:

Vlad is a great hitter but he's a DH - if he gets $450 mill we really are through the looking glass.  

last I saw Vlad was playing 1B 

 

 

 

[Bellhorn04]

8 hours ago, Randy Red Sox said:

 

last I saw Vlad was playing 1B 

 

 

 

I know, I meant "should be, and eventually will be, a DH".  

[Bellhorn04]

11 hours ago, Duran Is The Man said:

and they've upgraded immensely since then. 

Dodgers won't win the Series every year because of randomness and such.

But it'll probably be a long time before they miss the playoffs again.

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

14 minutes ago, Bellhorn04 said:

Dodgers won't win the Series every year because of randomness and such.

But it'll probably be a long time before they miss the playoffs again.

The Dodgers don't know what they're doing. They sign another kid who's never thrown a big league pitch, instead of their veteran champion who just beat the Yankees in the World Series.

Their loss is our gain. Boy, did the Red Sox' smart alecks fleece LA!