Red Sox Relief Pitching 2023

[Yaz Fan Since 67]

So you go away from the guy who is 7th all time in saves and having a solid year for us after one bad outing? It obviously didn't work out but I have no problem with Cora's decision.

[Bellhorn04]

So you go away from the guy who is 7th all time in saves and having a solid year for us after one bad outing? It obviously didn't work out but I have no problem with Cora's decision.

 

I don't think it was an easy decision for Cora one way or the other.

[redsoxrules]

As much as I give Cora flack from time to time most managers would use their closer back in this situation. All closers have bad games and when they do the next save opportunity their manager will put them back in. This isn't a series of bad outings he was having. It WAS ONE BAD OUTING. You would all have a point if he had been bad for a for a while.

[moonslav59]

As much as I give Cora flack from time to time most managers would use their closer back in this situation. All closers have bad games and when they do the next save opportunity their manager will put them back in. This isn't a series of bad outings he was having. It WAS ONE BAD OUTING. You would all have a point if he had been bad for a for a while.

 

Indeed.

 

Fine to disagree, but certainly Cora had merit.

 

Now, on Brasier...

[Hugh2]

Forget Brasier—for a moment—and focus on the disaster of the last two games. When Cora sent Jansen out for the 9th today, despite last nights absolutely awful outing, he was saying no other Sox reliever was capable of getting a save. That’s scary.

 

Fact KJ is a future hall of fame closer

Fact KJ was having an elite year before this series

Fact the best pitchers to ever play the game have blown leads/saves

 

 

Baseball is a mental game, sometimes the best thing you can do is get back out there and get back on your horse. What Cora did, was the same exact move ANY other good manager would have made.

 

There's a difference between rolling a guy out there who is failing day in and day out for a long period of time and then throwing your closer out there after ONE bad game. Should we bench Raffy if he goes 0-4 one game?

[Hugh2]

As much as I give Cora flack from time to time most managers would use their closer back in this situation. All closers have bad games and when they do the next save opportunity their manager will put them back in. This isn't a series of bad outings he was having. It WAS ONE BAD OUTING. You would all have a point if he had been bad for a for a while.

 

This is a good point. It would be a different situation if Jansen was having a bad stretch; weeks of bad play looking totally lost night after night then things would be different. No reasonable manager pulls their closer after one game. none.

[notin]

Fact KJ is a future hall of fame closer

Fact KJ was having an elite year before this series

Fact the best pitchers to ever play the game have blown leads/saves

 

 

Baseball is a mental game, sometimes the best thing you can do is get back out there and get back on your horse. What Cora did, was the same exact move ANY other good manager would have made.

 

There's a difference between rolling a guy out there who is failing day in and day out for a long period of time and then throwing your closer out there after ONE bad game. Should we bench Raffy if he goes 0-4 one game?

 

But at some point, where is Schreiber? He was good enough to close games last year. And good enough to be used in every insane critical matchup. Brasier has pitched 4 times since we last saw Schreiber.

 

If Schreiber is hurt or not feeling good, that’s one thing (and an obvious answer here). Or if he’s in Cora’s Disciplinary Doghouse, that’s another. But if he isn’t, what’s going on?

[Old Red]

But at some point, where is Schreiber? He was good enough to close games last year. And good enough to be used in every insane critical matchup. Brasier has pitched 4 times since we last saw Schreiber.

 

If Schreiber is hurt or not feeling good, that’s one thing (and an obvious answer here). Or if he’s in Cora’s Disciplinary Doghouse, that’s another. But if he isn’t, what’s going on?

Cora let Blier face the top of the order Friday night when that should have been Schreiber time.

[Old Red]

Oh no! Cora’s favorite pitcher Bernardino back to Worcester.

[Nick]

Oh no! Cora’s favorite pitcher Bernardino back to Worcester.

 

I thought Brasier was his favorite. Ort his second favorite.

 

Also Kike can do no wrong in Cora's eyes. $10M utility player.

[Old Red]

I thought Brasier was his favorite. Ort his second favorite.

 

Also Kike can do no wrong in Cora's eyes. $10M utility player.

 

Cora has a revolving door on favorite pitchers. Agree on Kike who I said at the time of his resigning that the Red Sox could have done better with that $10M.

[mvp 78]

But at some point, where is Schreiber? He was good enough to close games last year. And good enough to be used in every insane critical matchup. Brasier has pitched 4 times since we last saw Schreiber.

 

If Schreiber is hurt or not feeling good, that’s one thing (and an obvious answer here). Or if he’s in Cora’s Disciplinary Doghouse, that’s another. But if he isn’t, what’s going on?

 

Schreiber is being put on the 15 day IL.

[mvp 78]

@PeteAbe

#RedSox announce they optioned LHP Ryan Sherriff to AAA. Opens a spot for Kutter Crawford to come off the IL.

[moonslav59]

Schreiber is being put on the 15 day IL.

 

The Bleier DFA just may never happen.

[Old Red]

The Red Sox have now officially released the Bra Man. Who’s next?

[Nick]

You still want Houck in the pen and Kluber starting?

 

Houck will get frw more opportunies. Then I hpoe it's Kutter and not Pivetta if Houck doesn't workout.

[notin]

You still want Houck in the pen and Kluber starting?

 

Houck will get frw more opportunies. Then I hpoe it's Kutter and not Pivetta if Houck doesn't workout.

 

I want Houck in the pen and Kluber DFAd…

[moonslav59]

I want Houck in the pen and Kluber DFAd…

 

So, Pivetta back starting or Crawford or ____?

[Deja Doh]

Fact KJ is a future hall of fame closer

Fact KJ was having an elite year before this series

Fact the best pitchers to ever play the game have blown leads/saves

 

 

Baseball is a mental game, sometimes the best thing you can do is get back out there and get back on your horse. What Cora did, was the same exact move ANY other good manager would have made.

 

There's a difference between rolling a guy out there who is failing day in and day out for a long period of time and then throwing your closer out there after ONE bad game. Should we bench Raffy if he goes 0-4 one game?

 

KJ is one pitch away from being a disaster. Nobody here in LA trusted him to get it done. We always sweated it out. Atlanta saw the same.

[mvp 78]

So, Pivetta back starting or Crawford or ____?

 

The rotation would be:

Paxton

Sale

Bello

Whitlock

Houck

 

Crawford can be the 6th starter if one of them goes down.

[Hugh2]

KJ is one pitch away from being a disaster. Nobody here in LA trusted him to get it done. We always sweated it out. Atlanta saw the same.

 

Your personal feelings toward a player have no merit here. His record stands for itself. Now it could very well end up that he's done and quickly deteriorates here, he should lose his job VERY quickly if that were to happen. But throwing your closer back out there after one bad performance (in which he was dominant before hand) is not only not unprecedented, but rather normal.

[notin]

So, Pivetta back starting or Crawford or ____?

 

Pivetta.

 

Crawford looks very solid in the bullpen and Pivetta has some hope left…

[notin]

KJ is one pitch away from being a disaster. Nobody here in LA trusted him to get it done. We always sweated it out. Atlanta saw the same.

 

If Atlanta didn’t trust him, they had an odd way of showing it. He lead the NL in saves and games finished last year. And they did have other closing options…

[moonslav59]

Pivetta.

 

Crawford looks very solid in the bullpen and Pivetta has some hope left…

 

Just curious why you think the guy with a 7.00+ ERA in the last month deserves another shot over Kluber. (Not saying it's a bad call- just wondering.)

[moonslav59]

If Atlanta didn’t trust him, they had an odd way of showing it. He lead the NL in saves and games finished last year. And they did have other closing options…

 

I guess not wanting to pay an old pitcher for 2 or more years means they don't "trust him."

[notin]

Just curious why you think the guy with a 7.00+ ERA in the last month deserves another shot over Kluber. (Not saying it's a bad call- just wondering.)

 

Kluber is in uncharted territory. He simply cannot throw as hard as he did even last year. At least Pivetta hasn’t lost any velocity on his fastball. In fact, he’s up 0.4mph from last year…

[Hugh2]

Kluber is in uncharted territory. He simply cannot throw as hard as he did even last year. At least Pivetta hasn’t lost any velocity on his fastball. In fact, he’s up 0.4mph from last year…

 

Kluber would have been fine as a #3 #4 starter if he could have given us what he did last year. Hey, some guys just fall off a cliff, and that's what it looks like with Kluber......I don't think the Sox can wait on him much longer.

[mvp 78]

Kluber is in uncharted territory. He simply cannot throw as hard as he did even last year. At least Pivetta hasn’t lost any velocity on his fastball. In fact, he’s up 0.4mph from last year…

 

Why not go with an even younger pitcher with higher upside?

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

Why not go with an even younger pitcher with higher upside?

 

Wedon'twannarushim!

 

You might screw up his psyche for life!

 

Lookit Washington -- Thad Ward has almost as many walks as Ks... and he's only 26!!!!!

[mvp 78]

Wedon'twannarushim!

 

You might screw up his psyche for life!

 

Lookit Washington -- Thad Ward has almost as many walks as Ks... and he's only 26!!!!!

 

Maybe the Sox can trade for the rights of Noah Song? He's probably ready by now!