A Realistic View of 2023: Part II

[moonslav59]

Winkowski has turned into a nice BP piece but I sure don't see much in Bernandino

 

He's done well for us, so far.

 

36.1 IP

31 Hits

10 BB

42 K

2.97 ERA

1.13 WHIP

12K/9 IP

 

He may be a fluke, but what is not to like, so far?

 

 

[moonslav59]

We need to cut the cord on Jacques-- like yesterday.

 

Call up Walter or Sale, if he's ready.

 

Llovera should go, too.

 

[notin]

We need to cut the cord on Jacques-- like yesterday.

 

Call up Walter or Sale, if he's ready.

 

Llovera should go, too.

 

 

Llovera is a DFA candidate. Jacques will be demoted…

[Duran Is The Man]

He's done well for us, so far.

 

36.1 IP

31 Hits

10 BB

42 K

2.97 ERA

1.13 WHIP

12K/9 IP

 

He may be a fluke, but what is not to like, so far?

 

 

 

agreed. he had a bit of a rough day today but overall, he's been a pleasant surprise.

[Duran Is The Man]

We need to cut the cord on Jacques-- like yesterday.

 

Call up Walter or Sale, if he's ready.

 

Llovera should go, too.

 

 

oh hell yes. both of them.

[moonslav59]

Llovera is a DFA candidate. Jacques will be demoted…

 

Cut the cord on both.

 

We have Story & Sale coming off the 60, so we need two slots on the 40.

 

I'd DFA both, but since Reyes is out of options, maybe he will be one of the two to go.

[Randy Red Sox]

[Qwell he is consistliney dialling it up at 97-99. i think he is for real. Good pickup by Bloom UOTE=moonslav59;1552528]He's done well for us, so far.

 

36.1 IP

31 Hits

10 BB

42 K

2.97 ERA

1.13 WHIP

12K/9 IP

 

He may be a fluke, but what is not to like, so far?

 

 

[Randy Red Sox]

send Bloom back to the BBB. He struck out on both these guys.

oh hell yes. both of them.

[Larry Cook]

I like the job Winkowski and Crawford have done this year!

[moonslav59]

I like the job Winkowski and Crawford have done this year!

 

Two of the exciting things to happen this season for the Sox.

 

Also, Duran, Casas, Wong, Yoshida, Martin and to some extent Pivetta and Jansen.

 

Too bad this might be Turner's last season with the Sox. It's probably Paxton's last season, too.

 

I hope we can cobble together a comeback, this year, and I still think we can, but we need the injured guys back soon, and without a long adjustment period. The clock is ticking. Tomorrow's game would be a good time to go on a long win streak.

[randywatson]

Bloom, or probably more accurately, fsg missed the boat with trying to push in the transfer window for one, or possibly two genuine players...... They just don't have that killer instinct to win.

[Old Red]

Bloom, or probably more accurately, fsg missed the boat with trying to push in the transfer window for one, or possibly two genuine players...... They just don't have that killer instinct to win.

 

Maybe the Red Sox should bring Larry Lucchino back again to run things again.

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

bb-ref '23 splits for three of the relievers the Red Sox have used in the first two Toronto showdowns:

 

BA w RISP -- Jacques .458, Bleier .429, Llovera .231

BA in High Leverage -- Llovera .750, Bleier .458, Jacques .125

BA on Ground Balls -- Jacques .333, Llovera .273, Bleier .259

BA on Fly Balls -- Llovera .571, Jacques .417, Bleier .304

 

In contrast, Chris Martin: BA w RISP .152, High Lev .224, Ground Balls .154, Fly Balls .191

 

Only fans don't always get what they pay for...

[Bellhorn04]

Bloom, or probably more accurately, fsg missed the boat with trying to push in the transfer window for one, or possibly two genuine players...... They just don't have that killer instinct to win.

 

Or they are what you might call "all in on kicking the can down the road a bit further"...it's sort of a re-branding of "wait till next year".

[randywatson]

Or they are what you might call "all in on kicking the can down the road a bit further"...it's sort of a re-branding of "wait till next year".

 

pretty much.

 

whats that old saying,

 

"the only thing worse than making the wrong decision, is not making any decision at all"

[Bellhorn04]

pretty much.

 

whats that old saying,

 

"the only thing worse than making the wrong decision, is not making any decision at all"

 

I think that Henry has decided to let Bloom implement a Five Year Plan. I have my reservations about it too. Because what happens if next year, Year Five, isn't great either?

[Old Red]

I think that Henry has decided to let Bloom implement a Five Year Plan. I have my reservations about it too. Because what happens if next year, Year Five, isn't great either?

 

To me if you don’t play to win then don’t play at all. Kennedy said last year they all failed, because they didn’t make the postseason, so how many failures should a team be allowed? To me 1 season is 1 season to many especially when what’s down the road may never get to be as good as what some are hoping for. Watching years just pass away is just ridiculous to me, and the JH that first come here wouldn’t let that happen like the JH of today.

[Bellhorn04]

To me if you don’t play to win then don’t play at all. Kennedy said last year they all failed, because they didn’t make the postseason, so how many failures should a team be allowed? To me 1 season is 1 season to many especially when what’s down the road may never get to be as good as what some are hoping for.

 

Yeah, I think they're playing kind of a dangerous game. They could easily have tried a little harder this year without destroying the future.

[Old Red]

Yeah, I think they're playing kind of a dangerous game. They could easily have tried a little harder this year without destroying the future.

 

I know some on here don’t think they do, but to me they owe it to the fans, who shell out big bucks to go watch some of that crap, and to the players in the clubhouse.

[cp176]

Yeah, I think they're playing kind of a dangerous game. They could easily have tried a little harder this year without destroying the future.

 

There is an old expression that sums up how I have always felt about athletics in general - What I had I gave, because what I saved I lost. They could certainly have done more and still have been very cognizant of the future.

[Old Red]

There is an old expression that sums up how I have always felt about athletics in general - What I had I gave, because what I saved I lost. They could certainly have done more and still have been very cognizant of the future.

 

Bloom I don’t believe knows how to do that. Hence the third option at the fork in the road concept.

[notin]

To me if you don’t play to win then don’t play at all. Kennedy said last year they all failed, because they didn’t make the postseason, so how many failures should a team be allowed? To me 1 season is 1 season to many especially when what’s down the road may never get to be as good as what some are hoping for. Watching years just pass away is just ridiculous to me, and the JH that first come here wouldn’t let that happen like the JH of today.

 

Ah but you’ve never spent $240million to miss the postseason…

[notin]

Yeah, I think they're playing kind of a dangerous game. They could easily have tried a little harder this year without destroying the future.

 

They absolutely could have. Assuming any other deadline deal negotiations were reasonable…

[Bellhorn04]

Ah but you’ve never spent $240million to miss the postseason…

 

Poor John, huh? I guess he'll have to console himself with the team's $4.5 billion market value.

[Bellhorn04]

They absolutely could have. Assuming any other deadline deal negotiations were reasonable…

 

From what we've learned, Bloom was trying to sell more than trying to buy. He came close to trading Turner, apparently.

[Old Red]

Remember how early in the season when the Red Sox were getting gift wins like I believe on opening day Baltimore dropped a easy fly ball in LF , which would have ended the game, but Boston went on to win. Another game that had 3 catcher interference in it that helped the team win. Now the Red Sox are giving back like the base running blooper from yesterday, and 2 IF collided going after a ground ball, and looking like the Bad News Bears.

[notin]

From what we've learned, Bloom was trying to sell more than trying to buy. He came close to trading Turner, apparently.

 

Well, what we’ve learned is there are more stories about him selling than buying…

[Bellhorn04]

Well, what we’ve learned is there are more stories about him selling than buying…

 

Hey, without rumors, what would we have?

 

The one thing we know is, he did squat LOL

[Nick]

Xander, 52 runs, 11 HR, 37 RBI in 400 AB. First year of 11 year, $25M+ AAV contract. No thanks

[Nick]

Remember how early in the season when the Red Sox were getting gift wins like I believe on opening day Baltimore dropped a easy fly ball in LF , which would have ended the game, but Boston went on to win. Another game that had 3 catcher interference in it that helped the team win. Now the Red Sox are giving back like the base running blooper from yesterday, and 2 IF collided going after a ground ball, and looking like the Bad News Bears.

 

We often chose offense over defense. Sometimes it works, sometimes it's ugly.