Red Sox Spring Training 2023

[mvp 78]

@bradfo

James Paxton leaves with two outs in second inning. Flexing his leg. Didn’t seem serious as walked through dugout giving fist bumps. Guess is precautionary.

[mvp 78]

Schreiber doesn't have it today.

 

HBP, 2BB, 2WP, 2ER, 1IP

[Bellhorn04]

What exactly are you arguing for?

 

C'mon man, have a little sense of humor.

[notin]

C'mon man, have a little sense of humor.

 

So you’re doubling back now because Paxton got hurt after a long hiatus?

 

[Bellhorn04]

So you’re doubling back now because Paxton got hurt after a long hiatus?

 

 

I shall not backpedal, but I know I may have to issue a major mea culpa about you-know-who...

[notin]

Schreiber doesn't have it today.

 

HBP, 2BB, 2WP, 2ER, 1IP

 

All we want from Schreiber is to get loose without getting hurt…

[mvp 78]

Casas hits a bomb and flips his helmet off so that his hair can flow in the breeze...

 

https://twitter.com/tylermilliken_/status/1631743521135681536

[mvp 78]

All we want from Schreiber is to get loose without getting hurt…

 

Maybe at least hit the catcher's mitt?

[mvp 78]

2 straight errors by Lugo at SS. Yuck.

[moonslav59]

I believe moon watches every game. I believe Jacoby ran into some stupid outs, which moon remembers. I believe that his overall baserunning ability made up for the stupid outs and then some. Memories from 15 years ago are going to be a little faulty. That's just the way it is. Trust but verify.

 

I remember discussing his bad instinct many times more than specific instances or examples.

[mvp 78]

I remember discussing his bad instinct many times more than specific instances or examples.

 

So your memories are just of discussing his bad instinct rather than it actually happening?

 

I'll err on the side of what BsR and the other stats show.

[Bellhorn04]

As for the Sox spring record so far, as I like to say, good small meaningless samples are better than bad small meaningless samples.

[notin]

Maybe at least hit the catcher's mitt?

 

And risk hurting the catcher!?!

[moonslav59]

So your memories are just of discussing his bad instinct rather than it actually happening?

 

I'll err on the side of what BsR and the other stats show.

 

I thought my statement was pretty clear. I remember more about discussions but do remember him running into outs.

 

I remember him being thrown out, often, usually trying for 3B with less than 2 outs.

 

I'm not saying he was a net negative baserunner. I never said that. I said he had bad instincts, early in his career.

 

For someone who stole a ton of bases (129 in his first 331 games or 0.048 per game), I'd expect his BsR to be higher than 15.8. One has to think it was lower due to running into outs and getting picked off, too many times.

 

It was 19.9 in his next 384 games (0.052/gm). (2010-2013.) I thought the differential would have been higher, here. Again, the guy could steal bases and way better than Duran. That wasn't my point. My point was not to say Ellsbury was ever a net negative on the bases- only that he had poor instincts, early on in his career.

 

2009 (127 PA)

9 SB

0 CS

3 OOB

 

2009 (607 PAs)

50 SB

11 CS

2 picked off

5 OOB

39% XBT% (League average 39%) Extra Base Taken %

 

2010 (693 PAs)

70 SB

12 CS

6 picked off

7 OOB

40% XBT (league avg: 39%)

 

2011 (732 PAs)- Missed much or 2011 and

39 SB

15 CS

4 Picked Off

10 OOB - OUCH!

 

2012- improvement begins (323 PAs)

14 SB

3 CS

1 PO

1 OOB

52% XBT% (42% Lesague)

 

2013 (636 PAs)

52 SB

4 CS (WOW!

3 PO

8 OOB (too high)

42% XBT% (league 39%

 

55% XBT% (league 41%)

 

Edited March 3, 2023 by moonslav59

[moonslav59]

I don't mean to scare our metrically opposed posters, but look-see....

 

ST run diff

 

+26 BOS (5 gms)

+19 SDP (7)

+16 TBR (6)

+13 HOU (6), KCR 97), TEX (8)

+12 LAA (6)

+11 STL (6), COL (6)

+9 NYY (7)

 

[Hugh2]

I know people say not to look into ST stats, but especially now, look who is playing.

 

This is what I love about spring training, there’s always a few guys who’s name you read and you have to ask yourself “who the heck is that?”.

[moonslav59]

I know people say not to look into ST stats, but especially now, look who is playing.

 

This is what I love about spring training, there’s always a few guys who’s name you read and you have to ask yourself “who the heck is that?”.

 

So many are there just to fill space, so the vets and real hopeful players don't have to play, too much.

[moonslav59]

OPS w 7+ ABs

1.538 Dalbec

1.428 Verdugo

1.326 Casas

1.255 Lugo

1.212 Fitzy

1.143 McGuire

1.112 Abreu

1.091 Arroyo

.967 E Valdez

.916 Tapia

.833 Allen

.664 Turner

.422 Crook

.413 Rafaela

.393 Sogard

.300 Duvall

.222 Kike

.200 D Hamilton

.111 Goodrum

 

Notable Pitchers:

 

(25 pitchers at 0.00 ERA)

0.00 Mills (3.0 IP), Walter (3.0), Murphy (2.2), Crawford (2 IP), Kluber (2.0), Mata (2.0), Winckowski (2.0), Houck (1.2), Paxton (1.2)

 

3.00 Bleier (3.0)

 

9.00 Brasier (1.0)

 

12.00 Ort (3.0)

 

18.00 Kelly (1.0), Schreiber (1.0)

 

[jacksonianmarch]

Paxton is hurt, and again, water is wet

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

Paxton is hurt, and again, water is wet

 

And for the 14th year in a row, the Yankees have the greatest bullpen in the history of this century not to play in the World Series.

[moonslav59]

And for the 14th year in a row, the Yankees have the greatest bullpen in the history of this century not to play in the World Series.

 

Their injury history is equally impressive.

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

Their injury history is equally impressive.

 

They're lights out every October. By the end of the AL playoffs, the Yanks' bullpen turns the lights out on their season.

[notin]

Their injury history is equally impressive.

 

What was it? $2.75billion and counting since their last WS appearance…

[moonslav59]

What was it? $2.75billion and counting since their last WS appearance…

 

In spending or dollars on the IL or deadweight?

[notin]

In spending or dollars on the IL or deadweight?

 

I believe payroll with some IL overlap..

[notin]

@byJulianMack

Trainers out to see Paxton and he's coming out the game. He was grabbing at his right hamstring.

 

Grade 1 strain. Won’t make opening day roster but expected back mid-April, when he can resume injuring himself again…

[bkzwhitestrican]

Grade 1 strain. Won’t make opening day roster but expected back mid-April, when he can resume injuring himself again…

 

Lol

[Old Red]

Grade 1 strain. Won’t make opening day roster but expected back mid-April, when he can resume injuring himself again…

 

Stay tuned for Frail to be up next.

[Bellhorn04]

Lol

 

notin is the Talksox Injury Funnyman.

[Old Red]

notin is the Talksox Injury Funnyman.

 

He has plenty of material to work with.