Early Trade deadline deals the selling Sox should make

[Sthpaw777]

Let’s be real…we have some good looking young starters in this organization, but we’re still a mediocre 500ish team. We would have to go over 600 the rest of the way to match last year, which wasn’t even 90 wins. We’re counting on too many 2nd year and 1st year guys. No leadership and a streaky offense. I don’t believe we are good enough this year to be a serious contender against the best teams. I get that the AL isn’t really competitive, but we’re not even serious contenders in a weak AL.

theres a few teams interested in Aroldis Chapman, and with a option for 27 that vests with 40ip we could possibly find that big bat we need.  we don’t have much pure power guys down there that have stood out besides the 6’6 270 lb young (19) and undeveloped Justin Gonzales.

Duran

Contreras

Gray

Are three more that immediately come to mind that could bring something back if they’re performing.

[mvp 78]

Contracts that are up by the end of '27:

Gray - decent value to trade

Yoshida - eat the contract and can trade

Contreras - decent value to trade

Chapman - decent value to trade

IKF - no value

Story - no value

Sandoval - no value

Coulombe - very little value

Oviedo - little value

Houck - little value

[moonslav59]

5 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

Contracts that are up by the end of '27:

Gray - decent value to trade

Yoshida - eat the contract and can trade

Contreras - decent value to trade

Chapman - decent value to trade

IKF - no value

Story - no value

Sandoval - no value

Coulombe - very little value

Oviedo - little value

Houck - little value

Looks right.

While Whitlock has club options for '27 and '28, he could be trade bait, too.

[Sthpaw777]

Just now, moonslav59 said:

Looks right.

While Whitlock has club options for '27 and '28, he could be trade bait, too.

Whitlock too, yes. . I think him and Chapman will bring back the most in Deadline deal if Bres doesn’t mess it up.

[Sthpaw777]

8 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

Contracts that are up by the end of '27:

Gray - decent value to trade

Yoshida - eat the contract and can trade

Contreras - decent value to trade

Chapman - decent value to trade

IKF - no value

Story - no value

Sandoval - no value

Coulombe - very little value

Oviedo - little value

Houck - little value

Looks about right

[mvp 78]

10 minutes ago, moonslav59 said:

Looks right.

While Whitlock has club options for '27 and '28, he could be trade bait, too.

If they trade Chapman, they need to keep Whitlock around. Doesn't make sense to deal both of them unless they are tanking for 3 years. 

[mvp 78]

Sox Rule 5 list:

December 2026

Marvin Alcantara
Nate Baez
Miguel Bleis
Caleb Bolden
Brooks Brannon
Max Carlson
Isaac Coffey
Luis Cohen
Matt Duffy
Austin Ehrlicher
Freili Encarnacion
Cade Feeney
Max Ferguson
Zach Fogell
Johanfran Garcia
Ronny Hernandez
Nathan Hickey
Jojo Ingrassia
Nicholas Judice
Ahbram Liendo
Raudelis Martinez
Tyler McDonough
Hayden Mullins
Trennor O'Donnell
Wyatt Olds
Jedixson Paez
Brendan Rodgers
Dalton Rogers
Mikey Romero
Caden Rose
Denison Sanchez
Noah Song
Isaac Stebens
Nelly Taylor
Stanley Tucker
Caden Vire
Braiden Ward
Jacob Webb
Blake Wehunt
Natanael Yuten

Not a lot of interesting guys this year. Most of them fell off.

[moonslav59]

23 minutes ago, Sthpaw777 said:

Whitlock too, yes. . I think him and Chapman will bring back the most in Deadline deal if Bres doesn’t mess it up.

The thing is the Sox brass will never admit the rebuild will be more than 1-2 years, so maybe they see Whitlock as a key to 2028 or 2029.

[moonslav59]

4 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

Sox Rule 5 list:

December 2026

Marvin Alcantara
Nate Baez
Miguel Bleis
Caleb Bolden
Brooks Brannon
Max Carlson
Isaac Coffey
Luis Cohen
Matt Duffy
Austin Ehrlicher
Freili Encarnacion
Cade Feeney
Max Ferguson
Zach Fogell
Johanfran Garcia
Ronny Hernandez
Nathan Hickey
Jojo Ingrassia
Nicholas Judice
Ahbram Liendo
Raudelis Martinez
Tyler McDonough
Hayden Mullins
Trennor O'Donnell
Wyatt Olds
Jedixson Paez
Brendan Rodgers
Dalton Rogers
Mikey Romero
Caden Rose
Denison Sanchez
Noah Song
Isaac Stebens
Nelly Taylor
Stanley Tucker
Caden Vire
Braiden Ward
Jacob Webb
Blake Wehunt
Natanael Yuten

Not a lot of interesting guys this year. Most of them fell off.

I only see 2-3 players to protect: Garcia & Brannon- maybe Paez or Mullins.

Ward might be added this summer, after the sell-off opens some slots on the 40.

[drewski6]

4 minutes ago, moonslav59 said:

The thing is the Sox brass will never admit the rebuild will be more than 1-2 years, so maybe they see Whitlock as a key to 2028 or 2029.

What year are we on?

[illinoisredsox]

30 minutes ago, Sthpaw777 said:

Whitlock too, yes. . I think him and Chapman will bring back the most in Deadline deal if Bres doesn’t mess it up.

Odds of this not happening?

[moonslav59]

4 minutes ago, drewski6 said:

What year are we on?

Good question:

7 if you start with 2020.

5 if you start with 2022 (playoffs in 2021)

4 if you thought we'd be good in 2022 because of 2021 and didn't need to rebuild.

[Nick]

Core Players

Crochet 5 yrs starting 2027

Anthony 7 yrs

Rafaela 5 yrs

Abreu 3 yrs

Narvaez 4 yrs

Durbin 5 yrs

Mayer 5 yrs

Early/Tolle 5 yrs

Everyone else can be traded, I hope Breslow learned something. Yes, we still need power.

 

[mvp 78]

28 minutes ago, drewski6 said:

What year are we on?

Realistically, they didn't start the rebuild until '23. They held on too long and kept things going in '22. They should have had a complete fire sale at the start of that season and dealt off half the team. 

[mvp 78]

20 minutes ago, Nick said:

Core Players

Crochet 5 yrs starting 2027

Anthony 7 yrs

Rafaela 5 yrs

Abreu 3 yrs

Narvaez 4 yrs

Durbin 5 yrs

Mayer 5 yrs

Early/Tolle 5 yrs

Everyone else can be traded, I hope Breslow learned something. Yes, we still need power.

It doesn't feel like Durbin is a core player. Maybe bench player? 

[moonslav59]

23 minutes ago, Nick said:

Core Players

Crochet 5 yrs starting 2027

Anthony 7 yrs

Rafaela 5 yrs

Abreu 3 yrs

Narvaez 4 yrs

Durbin 5 yrs

Mayer 5 yrs

Early/Tolle 5 yrs

Everyone else can be traded, I hope Breslow learned something. Yes, we still need power.

 

No Ranger?

[Old Red]

1 hour ago, mvp 78 said:

Contracts that are up by the end of '27:

Gray - decent value to trade

Yoshida - eat the contract and can trade

Contreras - decent value to trade

Chapman - decent value to trade

IKF - no value

Story - no value

Sandoval - no value

Coulombe - very little value

Oviedo - little value

Houck - little value

Pretty much everyone you trade you have to replace, so it’s not as simple, easy, or financially better than it may seem.

[mvp 78]

Opening Day 2022:

Kiké CF

Devers 3B

Bogey SS

JD DH

Verdugo LF

Story SS

Dalbec 1B

JBJ RF

Vaz C

Rotation: Pivetta, Wacha, Hill, Eovaldi, Whitlock

That's not a rebuilding team. That's a team that is trying to get to the playoffs again. 

[Old Red]

4 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

It doesn't feel like Durbin is a core player. Maybe bench player? 

Come on someone said DUBin was a grinder. He’s a starter for sure.🤔

[Old Red]

6 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

Realistically, they didn't start the rebuild until '23. They held on too long and kept things going in '22. They should have had a complete fire sale at the start of that season and dealt off half the team. 

Everyone said the bumper crop would be bearing fruit by now. What happened?

[mvp 78]

14 minutes ago, Old Red said:

Everyone said the bumper crop would be bearing fruit by now. What happened?

KC stinks

Anthony is injured

Teel was traded for Crochet

The bigger problem this season has been Durbin, Story and Duran have been 3 of the 10 worst hitters in MLB. 

[moonslav59]

3 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

KC stinks

Anthony is injured

Teel was traded for Crochet

The bigger problem this season has been Durbin, Story and Duran have been 3 of the 10 worst hitters in MLB. 

And nobody counted the kids as locks. either.

[Old Red]

1 minute ago, mvp 78 said:

KC stinks

Anthony is injured

Teel was traded for Crochet

The bigger problem this season has been Durbin, Story and Duran have been 3 of the 10 worst hitters in MLB. 

Casas, and KC should have been in that group as well. little Anthony with his 1 HR, and 4 RBI hasn’t helped much of anything from what was expected of him either, and the same with Mayer.

[Old Red]

3 minutes ago, moonslav59 said:

And nobody counted the kids as locks. either.

What a tumble Mayer, and little Anthony took after you touted them going 5-6 on opening day.

[mvp 78]

2 minutes ago, Old Red said:

Casas, and KC should have been in that group as well. little Anthony with his 1 HR, and 4 RBI hasn’t helped much of anything from what was expected of him either, and the same with Mayer.

IDK, the FO spoke about THE BIG THREE. Initially,  it was Marcello/Anthony/Teel, but they swapped Teel for Campbell after the trade. I don't think this org has been excited about Casas ever. 

[mvp 78]

Just want to check, are you including Monasterio in these posts as well? 

[Old Red]

1 minute ago, mvp 78 said:

IDK, the FO spoke about THE BIG THREE. Initially,  it was Marcello/Anthony/Teel, but they swapped Teel for Campbell after the trade. I don't think this org has been excited about Casas ever. 

Not in the past few years, but when he was coming up through Portland, and Woo he was the first of the next big thing.

[mvp 78]

3 minutes ago, Old Red said:

Not in the past few years, but when he was coming up through Portland, and Woo he was the first of the next big thing.

2021? That's so long ago it was the summer Marcelo was drafted. Marcelo was the #2 prospect because of how bad the system was.