Red Sox 2025 Season Review/Offseason Preview Thread

[mvp 78]

36 minutes ago, Old Red said:

He has to stay healthy, and hit LHP first, and foremost, which both are big ifs. Merloni?🤭

'21 - missed 1 week

'23 - missed 3 weeks

'24 - missed 3 weeks

'25 - missed 6-7 weeks

Is this a curve that is getting worse or just bad luck in '25? 

 

[mvp 78]

1 hour ago, Hugh2 said:

No chance they sign someone right? 

I mean, Sox probably make more signings, but small ball stuff not worth predicting. 

No chance they sign Bo.

[Hugh2]

21 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

No chance they sign Bo.

Exactly, I think it's safe to say their shopping window has closed.  

When the Sox add another starting caliber player it will be via trade. 

[drewski6]

44 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

No chance they sign Bo.

With the dodgers signing Tucker away from the Jays, and the likelihood that Jays get more aggressive to maybe compete with what Im sure is an already aggressive Phils offer, I would think that the chances of the sox signing Bo prob just fell drastically - like 8% to 2%, and I know that doesnt feel super drastic (very low -> very very low) but it is a big decrease.

[moonslav59]

1 hour ago, mvp 78 said:

'21 - missed 1 week

'23 - missed 3 weeks

'24 - missed 3 weeks

'25 - missed 6-7 weeks

Is this a curve that is getting worse or just bad luck in '25? 

 

Is that record of missed time really much more than the norm?

Maybe a little bit.

We have many players on the 26 with more missed time than that.

I'm a little concerned but not a lot.

[Duran Is The Man]

3 hours ago, mvp 78 said:

He's not worth 60M a year. He was worth 40M in his best year. Stupid big overpay. His HR numbers should go up in LA though. 

with the tax included, they're essentially paying (i think) $115M a year for him. i thought he was a $25-30M/year player but $115M is just absolutely insane.

[Randy Red Sox]

17 hours ago, Larry Cook said:

Let’s look at the crochet trade for all 3 gm’s 

1.) desperate Dave could not have made the crochet trade because his farm system was a barren waste land!!!

2.) hang’em Chaim would not have made that trade because he overvalues prospects and has something against high end pitching!!!

3.) only bres-slow had the guts to risk such quality and quantity on a pitcher. I believe that because bres-slow was a former pitcher, he saw something in crochet that told him this guy was special!!  

the best thing Breslow has done is place a main focus on building the pitching both at MLB level and in our prospect pool.

[moonslav59]

16 minutes ago, Randy Red Sox said:

the best thing Breslow has done is place a main focus on building the pitching both at MLB level and in our prospect pool.

Agreed, and while mush is TBD, it looks real good on paper.

It's rather stunning the turnover at nearly every level with Brez pitchers taking the place of Bloom & DD guys.

Going by Soxprospsects.com's projected rosters

MLB: 12 out of 17 (only Houck, Whitlock, Bello, Kelly, Crawford are not Brez)

AAA: 13 out of 15 (I think just Early & Mullins are non Brez guys, as Drohan was brought back.)

AA: Maybe 10 out of 16?

A+: about the same.

 

[moonslav59]

Realmuto back to Phillies for $45M/3.

DD was "in" on some big names, but settled for the "real thing."

[moonslav59]

Apparently, PHI offered Bichette $200M/7, but he took $126M/3.

Tucker took $240M/4 from LAD. I'm pretty sure he got longer term offers from others, but the trend seems to be moving towards these type deals.

That's some high AAVs there!

[JoeBrady]

1 hour ago, moonslav59 said:

DD was "in" on some big names, but settled for the "real thing."

DD and the Phillies are in on everyone, but land no one.  Middleton is the cheapest $300M owner in baseball. 

Isn't that how it goes?

[JoeBrady]

15 minutes ago, moonslav59 said:

Apparently, PHI offered Bichette $200M/7, but he took $126M/3.

Tucker took $240M/4 from LAD. I'm pretty sure he got longer term offers from others, but the trend seems to be moving towards these type deals.

That's some high AAVs there!

I'm wondering how many of these opt-outs are because the players are expecting a change to the CBT?  If the caps change by $10M, instead of $2-3M, teams will theoretically have a higher threshold for spending.

[moonslav59]

16 minutes ago, JoeBrady said:

I'm wondering how many of these opt-outs are because the players are expecting a change to the CBT?  If the caps change by $10M, instead of $2-3M, teams will theoretically have a higher threshold for spending.

Maybe they just assume inflation and MLB salaries going up and up and...

[notin]

17 hours ago, JoeBrady said:

DD and the Phillies are in on everyone, but land no one.  Middleton is the cheapest $300M owner in baseball. 

Isn't that how it goes?

Brad Keller!!

[notin]

18 hours ago, moonslav59 said:

Apparently, PHI offered Bichette $200M/7, but he took $126M/3.

Tucker took $240M/4 from LAD. I'm pretty sure he got longer term offers from others, but the trend seems to be moving towards these type deals.

That's some high AAVs there!

Both players can re-enter free agency relatively young…

[moonslav59]

1 hour ago, notin said:

Both players can re-enter free agency relatively young…

TOR offered Tucker $350M/10. He'll have to get $110M/6 when this deal is done. I guess that's possible, but very risky.

[notin]

19 minutes ago, moonslav59 said:

TOR offered Tucker $350M/10. He'll have to get $110M/6 when this deal is done. I guess that's possible, but very risky.

He might be able to get $110/4 yrs at age 32.  Thats not even Bregman level…

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

10 minutes ago, moonslav59 said:

TOR offered Tucker $350M/10. He'll have to get $110M/6 when this deal is done. I guess that's possible, but very risky.

No matter if they make another $100M or $200M, these are young men who will never have to work another day in their lives. Right now.

What's the risk, really? They continue to perform at high levels for two or three years and then sit by their pools or vacation beaches, waiting for agents to present new bids for millions more -- or they really go all out, pushing through aches and pains to win a title or two and even more recognition... which just might net them a permanent limp, but hundreds of millions more. 

In other words, they can't lose -- unless they do something really bad that turns the public against them for the rest of eternity (it happens sometimes to "celebrities").

[moonslav59]

17 minutes ago, notin said:

He might be able to get $110/4 yrs at age 32.  Thats not even Bregman level…

He'll be 33, but point well taken.

[mvp 78]

On 1/17/2026 at 12:18 PM, moonslav59 said:

TOR offered Tucker $350M/10. He'll have to get $110M/6 when this deal is done. I guess that's possible, but very risky.

Or he can just retire rich. 

[moonslav59]

10 hours ago, mvp 78 said:

Or he can just retire rich. 

Either choice that happens.

[Larry Cook]

Are the Mets going to steal bellinger from the Yankees? 
The Mets have a surplus of infielders already 

[moonslav59]

1 hour ago, Larry Cook said:

Are the Mets going to steal bellinger from the Yankees? 
The Mets have a surplus of infielders already 

How about OF?

[JoeBrady]

1 hour ago, Larry Cook said:

Are the Mets going to steal bellinger from the Yankees? 
The Mets have a surplus of infielders already 

That's my guess.  The NYY can roll with their current outfield; the Mets cannot.  Given similar resources, I can't see Hal out-bidding Cohen.  I'll be tuning into FAN a lot if that happens.

[moonslav59]

Bellinger signs with Yanks

[mvp 78]

18 minutes ago, moonslav59 said:

Bellinger signs with Yanks

Expected

[moonslav59]

$162M/5 is almost Bregman money.

With no deferrals it might be worth more.

[Larry Cook]

5 hours ago, moonslav59 said:

Bellinger signs with Yanks

He is a great fit in yankee stadium. I am not sure who they were bidding against to drive up the price??? 

[moonslav59]

Mets acquire Peralta!

[mvp 78]

Dodgers - 95 wins

Yankees/Sox - 87 wins

Jays - 86 wins

O's - 83 wins

Rays - 78 wins

Rockies - 64 wins