Red Sox 2025 Season Review/Offseason Preview Thread

[FredLynn]

5 hours ago, moonslav59 said:

I'm not projecting we sign a big FA, but you do realize 6 of the top MLBTR FAs are still available, and they counted Murakami as one. There are several top FAs that would fill the top 2 needs we have:

1. Tucker (trade 2 OF'ers for 2B/3B and SP)

2. Bichette

5. Bregman

6. Valdez, 7 Imai, 10 Ra Suarez (15 Gallen)

I'd be fine with #19 Okamoto or #20 E Suarez

I’d be shocked if we got any of them. I think what you see now is what we have this season except perhaps for another retread dumpster dive.

[notin]

5 hours ago, FredLynn said:

Generally in life you get what you pay for. Over the past several years Henry has spent his life dumpster diving for retreads rather than signing prime FAs like Soto, Schwarber, Alonso etc. They are gone now. Other teams that aren't so cheap paid what is necessary to obtain talent. Henry didn't. No, its not mandatory to fill the FLOPS vacancies with talented players. Its only mandatory if they want to compete for a ring. Guess that is no longer a priority.

You get what you pay for?   Did the Sox get what they paid for from Price? Or Crawford? Or Hanley? Or Story? Or Yoshida? Or Fat Pablo?  I could go on.  None of them were Dumpster Dives.

Why does the focus need to be on big name free agents, whom history has shown repeatedly drag you down more often than build you up.  Why this obsession with spending? 

The Sox best moves lately have been trades and promotions.  And despite that those have been working, you think the Sox should abandon that strategy?

[Larry Cook]

We are trading for contraras of St. Louis. 

[Hugh2]

Dobbins plus.  Maybe Sandlin too?  I think we are receiving money as well.

[Larry Cook]

37 minutes ago, Hugh2 said:

Dobbins plus.  Maybe Sandlin too?  I think we are receiving money as well.

We get 8 million in cash as well 

[Randy Red Sox]

2 hours ago, JoeBrady said:

They are well-run.  But could've easily have lost to the Phillies, and probably should've lost to the Jays.

But they didn't did they Joe??  While the Sox trade for 2nd tier "SLUGGERS"  like Contrasas  the Dodgers go for the real deal and pick up 3 WS in 6 years.

[Randy Red Sox]

59 minutes ago, Larry Cook said:

We are trading for contraras of St. Louis. 

For the SLUGGER !! Sox cheap out again. PATHETIC !!

[Randy Red Sox]

20 minutes ago, Larry Cook said:

We get 8 million in cash as well 

O f course--JH needs the cash !!   Ebenezer Henry strikes again !!!!~  JOKE !!!

[Randy Red Sox]

2 hours ago, notin said:

You get what you pay for?   Did the Sox get what they paid for from Price? Or Crawford? Or Hanley? Or Story? Or Yoshida? Or Fat Pablo?  I could go on.  None of them were Dumpster Dives.

Why does the focus need to be on big name free agents, whom history has shown repeatedly drag you down more often than build you up.  Why this obsession with spending? 

The Sox best moves lately have been trades and promotions.  And despite that those have been working, you think the Sox should abandon that strategy?

Because since DD was FIRED we have ZERO WS  and a few last place finishes that is why.

[Larry Cook]

So in summary to date:

to Boston; gray for 2026. Contreras for 2026, 2027 and a club option for 2028 and 28 million in cash 

To St. Louis: Fitts, dobbins, Clarke, farjardo and aita 

“Revenge is a dish best served cold”, says hang’em Chaim 

 

[FredLynn]

2 hours ago, notin said:

You get what you pay for?   Did the Sox get what they paid for from Price? Or Crawford? Or Hanley? Or Story? Or Yoshida? Or Fat Pablo?  I could go on.  None of them were Dumpster Dives.

Why does the focus need to be on big name free agents, whom history has shown repeatedly drag you down more often than build you up.  Why this obsession with spending? 

The Sox best moves lately have been trades and promotions.  And despite that those have been working, you think the Sox should abandon that strategy?

I think they should get a very good bat and a #2 SP. I don’t care how they do it or if it costs a lot

[a700hitter]

So much for adding major offense.

[moonslav59]

3 hours ago, Larry Cook said:

So in summary to date:

to Boston; Gray for 2026. Contreras for 2026, 2027 and a club option for 2028 and 28 million in cash 

To St. Louis: Fitts, dobbins, Clarke, farjardo and aita 

“Revenge is a dish best served cold”, says hang’em Chaim 

 

Gray has a $30M 2027 option w $5M buyout.

[moonslav59]

2 hours ago, a700hitter said:

So much for adding major offense.

He's a major plus over our 1B offense in 2024 and 2025.

.734 in 2024

.691 in 2025

If we can fix 2B and not lose so much at 3B, we might be okay.

[moonslav59]

3 hours ago, FredLynn said:

I think they should get a very good bat and a #2 SP. I don’t care how they do it or if it costs a lot

One of these two asks should make us better than 2025, but I agree- two puts us in serious competition mode.

[Bellhorn04]

13 hours ago, notin said:

You get what you pay for?   Did the Sox get what they paid for from Price? Or Crawford? Or Hanley? Or Story? Or Yoshida? Or Fat Pablo?  I could go on.  None of them were Dumpster Dives.

Why does the focus need to be on big name free agents, whom history has shown repeatedly drag you down more often than build you up.  Why this obsession with spending? 

The Sox best moves lately have been trades and promotions.  And despite that those have been working, you think the Sox should abandon that strategy?

No, they don't have to abandon that strategy, they don't have to abandon free agency either, there's room for all of it.

 

[Hugh2]

What about a Brett Baty for Jarren Duran trade? 

Solves the OF logjam and fills in the infield nicely.  Baty/Story/Mayer/Contreras is a nice mix of youth and veteran leadership and should be the best infield defense we've had in years. 

[Old Red]

1 hour ago, Hugh2 said:

What about a Brett Baty for Jarren Duran trade? 

Solves the OF logjam and fills in the infield nicely.  Baty/Story/Mayer/Contreras is a nice mix of youth and veteran leadership and should be the best infield defense we've had in years. 

So not getting Bregman, or Marte would be falling back to what plan? Mayer is still an injury risk, and a platoon player at that at this point.

[Hugh2]

3 minutes ago, Old Red said:

So not getting Bregman, or Marte would be falling back to what plan? Mayer is still an injury risk, and a platoon player at that at this point.

I highly doubt they're going to add two more infielders.  I think it's one and done.  I'm ok with Bregman/Marte/Bichette I just don't think they're going to do it unless they clear out some more payroll. 

Then again, if Mayer is a platoon player you need two more infielders right now not 1 which makes this trade even more vaible then.  As you could trade for Baty and sign someone like Bo

[Old Red]

2 minutes ago, Hugh2 said:

I highly doubt they're going to add two more infielders.  I think it's one and done.  I'm ok with Bregman/Marte/Bichette I just don't think they're going to do it unless they clear out some more payroll. 

Then again, if Mayer is a platoon player you need two more infielders right now not 1 which makes this trade even more vaible then.  As you could trade for Baty and sign someone like Bo

If Mayer was to start at 2B he would most likely do some platooning with Romy, so you don’t need 2 more IF. 

[Hitch]

1 hour ago, Hugh2 said:

What about a Brett Baty for Jarren Duran trade? 

Solves the OF logjam and fills in the infield nicely.  Baty/Story/Mayer/Contreras is a nice mix of youth and veteran leadership and should be the best infield defense we've had in years. 

I like that idea a lot. I just don't think the Mets will. 

[Hugh2]

14 minutes ago, Old Red said:

If Mayer was to start at 2B he would most likely do some platooning with Romy, so you don’t need 2 more IF. 

No you'd need one, but there's the consensus in here that you'd have to trade Mayer to get Marte, or at the very least that is the demand.  If you true, you'd need to get two. 

 

[Hitch]

8 minutes ago, Hugh2 said:

No you'd need one, but there's the consensus in here that you'd have to trade Mayer to get Marte, or at the very least that is the demand.  If you true, you'd need to get two. 

 

I don't think it was the consensus. It was a conversation based off the possibility of it that became the dominant conversation on here for two days. I think the consensus is that AZ want pitching. And a lot of it. 

[Hugh2]

1 minute ago, Hitch said:

I don't think it was the consensus. It was a conversation based off the possibility of it that became the dominant conversation on here for two days. I think the consensus is that AZ want pitching. And a lot of it. 

Yup, I do think they want Mayer too.  I don't remember the package but it was reported that they were looking for Mayer/Tolle and I think a lot of people would just be willing to give AZ whatever they would ask for. 

[Old Red]

6 minutes ago, Hugh2 said:

Yup, I do think they want Mayer too.  I don't remember the package but it was reported that they were looking for Mayer/Tolle and I think a lot of people would just be willing to give AZ whatever they would ask for. 

I don’t think the Red Sox would give AZ whatever they want, but just like getting Crochet the Red SOX had to give up something good to get something good, and dealing to get Marte wouldn’t be any different, nor should it be. Most of the trade ideas I read on here mostly favor the RED Sox, and that’s not going to get things done.

[Hitch]

11 minutes ago, Hugh2 said:

Yup, I do think they want Mayer too.  I don't remember the package but it was reported that they were looking for Mayer/Tolle and I think a lot of people would just be willing to give AZ whatever they would ask for. 

The early reports were they wanted Early AND Tolle, or at least one of them and more pitching. There was only one report about Mayer being involved - I brought it into the thread saying I would do it. But not with Tolle/Early added in. That report has been quoted a few times but not replicated with different sources. So how reliable it is I don't know. And then there's the rumour that the Rays offer of two starting pitchers wasn't enough to get it done.

So regardless, it's not happening now. 

[Hugh2]

3 minutes ago, Hitch said:

The early reports were they wanted Early AND Tolle, or at least one of them and more pitching. There was only one report about Mayer being involved - I brought it into the thread saying I would do it. But not with Tolle/Early added in. That report has been quoted a few times but not replicated with different sources. So how reliable it is I don't know. And then there's the rumour that the Rays offer of two starting pitchers wasn't enough to get it done.

So regardless, it's not happening now. 

At this time of year, there's a thousand different "reports" every media body on earth has their guys writing columns with every mixture of rumor, suggestion and hearsay.  But yeah, I've also mainly heard they're looking for pitching. 

[Larry Cook]

13 hours ago, Randy Red Sox said:

Because since DD was FIRED we have ZERO WS  and a few last place finishes that is why.

I believe that is the definition of a rebuild 

[Hugh2]

5 minutes ago, Old Red said:

I don’t think the Red Sox would give AZ whatever they want, but just like getting Crochet the Red SOX had to give up something good to get something good, and dealing to get Marte wouldn’t be any different, nor should it be. Most of the trade ideas I read on here mostly favor the RED Sox, and that’s not going to get things done.

I do not believe the Sox are going to get two of Marte/Bregman/Bichette.  They're only getting one of those guys and I think Bregman is currently the favored odds. 

[Old Red]

5 minutes ago, Hugh2 said:

I do not believe the Sox are going to get two of Marte/Bregman/Bichette.  They're only getting one of those guys and I think Bregman is currently the favored odds. 

I agree on only one, and I agree on Bregman.