Red Sox (Bello) vs Tigers (Holton): 5/13/25, 6:40pm

[Brandon Glick]

With the way Houck is struggling, it kinda feels like Bello is the No. 2 starter right now, doesn't it? That'd certainly be an interesting development in the long-term.

[mvp 78]

Bello as a #2? 

2.01 ERA

4.72 xFIP

5.53 xERA

5.57 FIP

5.24 k/9

4.84 bb/9

.234 BABIP

I think there will be regression at some point unless he can turn it up here. 

[Nick]

26 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

Bello as a #2? 

2.01 ERA

4.72 xFIP

5.53 xERA

5.57 FIP

5.24 k/9

4.84 bb/9

.234 BABIP

I think there will be regression at some point unless he can turn it up here. 

I actually have Giolito ahead of Bello.

I get it that Giolito got lit up in his 2nd outing. But he throws strikes. He made an adjustment between his second and third starts.

Despite being lit up, Giolito's WHIP is lower than Bello's.

67% vs 45% strike ratio. 

I trust Giolito little more than Bello. 

[Bellhorn04]

11 minutes ago, Nick said:

I actually have Giolito ahead of Bello.

I get it that Giolito got lit up in his 2nd outing. But he throws strikes. He made an adjustment between his second and third starts.

Despite being lit up, Giolito's WHIP is lower than Bello's.

67% vs 45% strike ratio. 

I trust Giolito little more than Bello. 

Our trust level changes from game to game with guys like these, methinks.

[moonslav59]

Maybe we have to hope Buehler can become the #2... or Fitts.

[Bellhorn04]

38 minutes ago, moonslav59 said:

Maybe we have to hope Buehler can become the #2... or Fitts.

The starting pitching hasn't been horrible, outside of Houck, unfortunately.

[mvp 78]

50 minutes ago, moonslav59 said:

Maybe we have to hope Buehler can become the #2... or Fitts.

With that injury history, hard to put him even in the rotation for the whole year. 

[mvp 78]

 

[vegasbob]

Another Sogard-Hamilton day.  Is Story  sore ? He had a couple days off last week.

[Nick]

26 minutes ago, vegasbob said:

Another Sogard-Hamilton day.  Is Story  sore ? He had a couple days off last week.

Moon says Story never takes a day off......

[TheSplinteredSplendor]

27 minutes ago, vegasbob said:

Another Sogard-Hamilton day.  Is Story  sore ? He had a couple days off last week.

His .107/.167/.214 slash line over the last 7 games is certainly an eyesore!

[Jasonbay44]

Sogard hitting 6th? Yuck

[moonslav59]

2 hours ago, Bellhorn04 said:

The starting pitching hasn't been horrible, outside of Houck, unfortunately.

Well, Dobbins has been good, and Fitts was good before going on the IL.

Dobbins 2.78 (1.19 WHIP) 3.37 FIP is respectable

Fitts 3.18 (1.12) 3.99 FIP

Bello has a nice ERA (2.01) but his 1.34 WHIP is scary. His 5.57 FIP is awful.

Buehler's 4.28 is not bad for a 4/5 SP'er, but we may need him to step up into a 2 or 3 slot. (He had a 2.59 ERA over his last 4 starts and a 3.48 FIP)

Good starters+ Crochet 9 GS, Dobbins and maybe Bello 4 each and Fitts 3.

That's 20 GS out of 43.

Last 28 Days:

2.01 Bello (4 GS)

2.40 Crochet (5 GS)

2.55 Dobbins (3 GS)

2.61 Newcomb (counting 4 RP games and 2 GS)

3.00 Buehler (3 GS)

5.51 Giolito (3 GS)

7.20 Houck (5 GS)

 

[moonslav59]

6 minutes ago, Jasonbay44 said:

Sogard hitting 6th? Yuck

No Refsnyder vs the LHP hurts.

The bottom 4: Sogard, Narvaez, DHam & Rafaela... OH MY!

[Old Red]

3 minutes ago, moonslav59 said:

No Refsnyder vs the LHP hurts.

The bottom 4: Sogard, Narvaez, DHam & Rafaela... OH MY!

Campbell batting 4th is yuck, and OH MY also. 3-30 with 9 K’s.

[moonslav59]

Just now, Old Red said:

Campbell batting 4th is yuck, and OH MY also. 3-30 with 9 K’s.

Yup on Yuck....

Everyone batting 4th seems to yick it up.

I think Story might be the only guy who does better 4th than elsewhere, but still did not do well.

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

3 minutes ago, Old Red said:

Campbell batting 4th is yuck, and OH MY also. 3-30 with 9 K’s.

 

If only the Sox had a couple of offensive prospects at Woo.

[moonslav59]

3 minutes ago, SPLENDIDSPLINTER said:

If only the Sox had a couple of offensive prospects at Woo.

I don't see the harm in trying one- or both.

[Old Red]

10 minutes ago, moonslav59 said:

Yup on Yuck....

Everyone batting 4th seems to yick it up.

I think Story might be the only guy who does better 4th than elsewhere, but still did not do well.

Abreu sucked in the 4th spot too. He got a couple of hits his last time there to make him look a little better.

[Old Red]

6 minutes ago, moonslav59 said:

I don't see the harm in trying one- or both.

Roster construction.🤭

[TheSplinteredSplendor]

jayson tatum with a torn Achilles

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

I'm not worried about Bregman's lack of hitting of late. He's just going thru his cooling off period.

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

Nice D by  Sogard.

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

Until the guy on the mound has command of the strike zone he's not a pitcher, he's a thrower.

[FredLynn]

Already behind. Catchup baseball is losing baseball. 

[vegasbob]

What is it about Sox pitchers and giving up walks/hits/run(s0 in 1st inning ?    This was a trend last year, now again .  

If you have been to the ballparks pregame , you can see it isn't for lack of prep both on the field and in the BP.  They probably throw the ball 100 times pregame including long toss and actual mound work in the BP

Maybe the pitchers should ask the Sox hitters because they certainly know how NOT to score in the first .

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

Option Campbell to Woo to play 1st base. Bring up Mayer. It isn't rocket science.

[vegasbob]

5 minutes ago, SPLENDIDSPLINTER said:

Until the guy on the on the mound has command of the strike zone he's not a pitcher, he's a thrower.

But enough about the Sox Thrower , Bello

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

1 minute ago, vegasbob said:

But enough about the Sox Thrower , Bello

He inspired my post.

[vegasbob]

Narvaez is the #1 catcher on both sides of the ball.  Making me forget the name of that other guy