Article: BREAKING: Red Sox Trade For White Sox Ace Garrett Crochet

[notin]

40 minutes ago, Bellhorn04 said:

Like everyone is saying, pitching is incredibly expensive, so I'm not shocked at the return.

They did finally make a bold move so I'm not going to complain about this.

 

 

And held on to Anthony, Campbell and Mayer…

[notin]

This trade was costly, but I like it.  Crochet is extremely talented…

[harmony]

One source considers the trade fair:

https://www.baseballtradevalues.com/trades/179467

[moonslav59]

Pivetta vs Flaherty vs Buehler?

I'd like manaea over any of these. (Does he cost a comp pick?)

[Bellhorn04]

8 minutes ago, moonslav59 said:

Why is Vaz everyone's favorite catcher, now. We traded him away for a reason.

His contract was expiring and Bloom got a good haul for him.  

[moonslav59]

4 minutes ago, harmony said:

One source considers the trade fair:

https://www.baseballtradevalues.com/trades/179467

They tend to undervalue unproven prospects, but Montgomery has yet to play any proball.

I can see thinking this was fair. I think subbing Cespedes or Bleis for Montgomery looks closer, but not on BTV.

[moonslav59]

3 minutes ago, Bellhorn04 said:

His contract was expiring and Bloom got a good haul for him.  

They could have resigned him, even at his age.

Now, that he's even older, let's get him for just the last year of an overpaid contract. NOT!

If they take Yoshida and $35M out of $54M owed for Vaz, okay.

[Hugh2]

13 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

Crochet/Houck is a legit 1-2 punch if he can pitch like he did last year. 

Perhaps, but having one more premium arm would certainly go a long way. 

[harmony]

7 minutes ago, moonslav59 said:

Pivetta vs Flaherty vs Buehler?

I'd like manaea over any of these. (Does he cost a comp pick?)

Sean Manaea would cost a comp pick.

[Hugh2]

17 minutes ago, notin said:

And held on to Anthony, Campbell and Mayer…

But then gave up their #4 and #5 prospect guys ranked #25 and 54 in all of baseball.  That's a lot of systems #1 and #2 guy, plus another top 10 guy in your system. 

 

All for a guy who has pitched more than 54 innings once in his career.  Sandy Alcantara has a Cy Young.  

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

5 minutes ago, harmony said:

Sean Manaea would cost a comp pick.

Give the Mets our comp pick from whoever signs Pivetta for $75 million.

(it doesn't sound like Bregman's coming, if you hear Brez vs. Prez).

[sk7326]

To paraphrase Don Draper, that's what the prospects are for!

Sox keep their Top 3 prospects, traded a Top 100ish prospect (Montgomery) from strength.  Trading Teel hurts - but these sorts of players with team control aren't free.

It's risky - but so is acquiring any other sort of carbon based life form who can throw 95 mph.

This has a chance to be like the Beckett trade where everybody goes home a winner. 

[sk7326]

1 minute ago, Hugh2 said:

But then gave up their #4 and #5 prospect guys ranked #25 and 54 in all of baseball.  That's a lot of systems #1 and #2 guy, plus another top 10 guy in your system. 

 

All for a guy who has pitched more than 54 innings once in his career.  Sandy Alcantara has a Cy Young.  Honestly, discounting for the 1 year, it would probably take a comparable return to land Sandy.  

Yes - and the Red Sox had the depth to make a significant move for the big league club.  It's a gamble - but so is everything else.  Hell, Alcantara is coming off of TJS.  

the goal is for the Red Sox to be able to keep drafting, signing and developing guys so there IS this sort of inventory to make moves for the big league club.  

[notin]

15 minutes ago, moonslav59 said:

Pivetta vs Flaherty vs Buehler?

I'd like manaea over any of these. (Does he cost a comp pick?)

Yes.

 

And he should only be signed if he agrees to the condition that he grows his hair back out…

[sk7326]

19 minutes ago, notin said:

This trade was costly, but I like it.  Crochet is extremely talented…

Good young players aren't free - as the Mets will happily point out.  The good thing is the Sox had the resources to do this while still having the top guys in their system.  

[moonslav59]

5 minutes ago, Hugh2 said:

Perhaps, but having one more premium arm would certainly go a long way. 

Since Manaea would cost a comp pick, and signing Pivetta would lose a pick we would have gained when he signs elsewhere, would Flaherty be the guy we seek?

How about revisiting the pen needs?

Scott, Hoffman, Estevez or even Kittredge, Yates or ___?

I do not think Quintana or Heaney are upgrades over Crawford.

[drewski6]

23 minutes ago, notin said:

This trade was costly, but I like it.  Crochet is extremely talented…

Im with you. ANother thing is how many Ryan Lavarnways and Blake Swithart came and went.  There have been so many catcher busts throughout MLB , its a hard position to project.

This was not an overpay. Crochet is really really good.

[Jasonbay44]

I’m kinda 50/50 on this.

I like getting Crotchet and like keeping Mayer. Anthony and Campbell. There was rumors that White Sox wouldn’t move him without getting Anthony and I was absolutely against that.

The downside is we lose Teel at a position we’re extremely thin at, lose other prospects and still have a lot of question marks in the rotation and I would have much rather just paid Fried and kept prospects or attempted to do both.

Crotchet is also going to demand a lot of money in an extension.

We’ll see on this one 

[Jasonbay44]

I’m assuming this means they’re out of the Corbin Burnes sweepstakes? 

[drewski6]

Hows Jo. Garcias knee rehabbing? Call him up!

[harmony]

In a trade proposal barely 13 months ago, Baseball Trade Values assigned Garrett Crochet a negative $300,000 value:

https://www.baseballtradevalues.com/trades/146753

... before the left-hander turned in his impressive 2024 season.

In the fierce competition for perhaps the top pitcher on this offseason's trade market, the winning bid likely needed to be more than the merely fair offers of other suitors.

The Red Sox fared well.

[moonslav59]

Perales is extremely talented too.

[drewski6]

1 minute ago, harmony said:

In a trade proposal barely 13 months ago, Baseball Trade Values assigned Garrett Crochet a negative $300,000 value:

https://www.baseballtradevalues.com/trades/146753

... before the left-hander turned in his impressive 2024 season.

In the fierce competition for perhaps the top pitcher on this offseason's trade market, the winning bid likely needed to be more than the merely fair offers of other suitors.

The Red Sox fared well.

see that moon, he can say something positive about the red sox

[Caleb Kohn]

Keep in mind, its not like Teel was our starting catcher. Yes he played well at AAA so far, but there is a decent chance that he wasnt going to make an impact on the roster in 2025 anyway 

 

[drewski6]

I love it.  Teel has a high bust chance. Got a lot of Blake Swihart vibes about him.

[moonslav59]

2 minutes ago, drewski6 said:

Hows Jo. Garcias knee rehabbing? Call him up!

Gasper or Hickey!

Zavala or Rosario!

[drewski6]

1 minute ago, Caleb K said:

Keep in mind, its not like Teel was our starting catcher. Yes he played well at AAA so far, but there is a decent chance that he wasnt going to make an impact on the roster in 2025 anyway 

 

He had a .717 OPS at AAA

[moonslav59]

1 minute ago, drewski6 said:

I love it.  Teel has a high bust chance. Got a lot of Blake Swihart vibes about him.

We are weak at catcher and catcher depth, but he is a high risk prospect.

I kinda dislike losing Montgomery more.

[Jasonbay44]

1 minute ago, drewski6 said:

He had a .717 OPS at AAA

It was only 28 games. Very small sample size 

[Caleb Kohn]

Kind of what I mean, he needed time to develop