A Realistic View of the 2025 Red Sox: Part I

[mvp 78]

1 hour ago, moonslav59 said:

The 45 day window on signing Sasaki has begun. Maybe we go this route.

They'd have to be pretty lucky to win that one. 

[moonslav59]

1 hour ago, notin said:

How many of those 50-60 catchers are available?  And for one year only?

We just need 1. My guess is 4-7 are out there, including FA Diaz and Grandal.

[moonslav59]

17 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

They'd have to be pretty lucky to win that one. 

Eventually, we should win one.

At least one should not be hundreds of millions.

[moonslav59]

Fried is expected to choose his team, soon. The Sox, Yanks and Jays appear to be the "frontrunners."

You gotta think the Yanks will try hard for Burnes or Fried, after missing out on Soto.

[notin]

13 minutes ago, moonslav59 said:

Fried is expected to choose his team, soon. The Sox, Yanks and Jays appear to be the "frontrunners."

You gotta think the Yanks will try hard for Burnes or Fried, after missing out on Soto.

Bregman will be on their radar as well…

[moonslav59]

15 minutes ago, notin said:

Bregman will be on their radar as well…

I'd feel better about our chances at getting Fried, if the Yanks sign Bregman. 

Are the Jays in on Burnes, too?

[notin]

5 hours ago, moonslav59 said:

We just need 1. My guess is 4-7 are out there, including FA Diaz and Grandal.

Grandal?? Didn’t he catch Koufax at one point?

[notin]

4 minutes ago, moonslav59 said:

I'd feel better about our chances at getting Fried, if the Yanks sign Bregman. 

Are the Jays in on Burnes, too?

The Yankees can probably get both Fried and Bregman for what they’re not paying Soto…

[notin]

5 minutes ago, moonslav59 said:

I'd feel better about our chances at getting Fried, if the Yanks sign Bregman. 

Are the Jays in on Burnes, too?

Reportedly, but the Jays go in on everyone and no one has signed there since Kevin Gausman…..

[moonslav59]

3 minutes ago, notin said:

The Yankees can probably get both Fried and Bregman for what they’re not paying Soto…

True for the Sox, too.

[moonslav59]

Sign Fried and Estevez

Sign Elias Diaz C (1 year)

Trade: Mayer for Crochet

Trade: Yoshida, Bleis & Cespedes (maybe throw in a little cash, despite what Arenado is owed) for Arenado (BTW, COL is paying $5M for 2025 and 2026 on Arenado.)

SP: Fried, Crochet, Houck, Bello, Giolito

RP: Chapman, Estevez, Henriks, Slaten, Whitlock, Crawford, Winckowski, Wilson

C: Diaz & Wong

1B: Casas/Devers (Romy)

2B: Campbell (DHam-Grissom)

SS: Story (Romy)

3B: Arenado (Devers, Campbell, Grissom)

LF: Duran (Refsnyder v L)

CF: Anthony v R/ Rafaela v L or Duran v L

RF: Abreu v R/ Anthony v L

DH: Devers/Casas vs R/ Refsnyder v L

[Bellhorn04]

15 minutes ago, notin said:

The Yankees can probably get both Fried and Bregman for what they’re not paying Soto…

The lux tax consequences of adding a lot of payroll are pretty significant for the Yanks.

[notin]

12 minutes ago, Bellhorn04 said:

The lux tax consequences of adding a lot of payroll are pretty significant for the Yanks.

They’ll just dial back on the ol’ health insurance again…

[Randy Red Sox]

On 12/7/2024 at 2:43 PM, moonslav59 said:

I saw Adames as a possible plan B for missing out on Soto (Devers to 1B/DH.) 

At that money, he's not the inpact guy Soto would be, so using the money for pitching makes more sense.

Does this mean Bregman gets $200M/7? (HOU offered him $156M/6.)

Adames gone now too.  Sox are well on the way to striking out again in 2024 offseason

[Randy Red Sox]

NYY just signed Fried for 8 years.  

[FredLynn]

1 hour ago, moonslav59 said:

Fried is expected to choose his team, soon. The Sox, Yanks and Jays appear to be the "frontrunners."

You gotta think the Yanks will try hard for Burnes or Fried, after missing out on Soto.

Fried signed with the Yankees.

 

While Henry played the fiddle. 
Same story.

”Full throttle”

[Larry Cook]

Fried to the Yankees for stupid money 

[Old Red]

👍👍👍. Yankees have plenty of mony to spend after losing out on Soto.

[a700hitter]

It’s all stupid money today.  You either join in the stupidity or you are just an also ran.

[Duran Is The Man]

LOLOLOL... i'm sure the Sox were "interested".

[Duran Is The Man]

15 minutes ago, Old Red said:

👍👍👍. Yankees have plenty of mony to spend after losing out on Soto.

Henry has plenty of money to spend but he wants to show everyone how smart he is by not spending and winning. 

[FredLynn]

28 minutes ago, Duran Is The Man said:

LOLOLOL... i'm sure the Sox were "interested".

We should begin to compile a list of who the the Flops were “interested in”…so far it’s Fried, Soto, Adames…and I hear they’re “interested in” Bregman and Crochet too.

Where’s the nearest dumpster again?

SELL THE TEAM HENRY!!

[Duran Is The Man]

1 minute ago, FredLynn said:

We should begin to compile a list of who the the Flops were “interested in”…so far it’s Fried, Soto, Adames…and I hear they’re “interested in” Bregman and Crochet too.

Where’s the nearest dumpster again?

SELL THE TEAM HENRY!!

i wish he would sell. every year it's the same damn thing. "they spend in cycles", "he's waiting for the right time", "can't spend until the farm is ready". one ******** excuse after another. maybe Henry needs to hire another dozen or so vice-presidents. good thing he brought Theo back too. he's made a huge impact. 

[notin]

7 hours ago, moonslav59 said:

We just need 1. My guess is 4-7 are out there, including FA Diaz and Grandal.

Are Diaz and Grandal really better than Vazquez?

[notin]

44 minutes ago, Duran Is The Man said:

Henry has plenty of money to spend but he wants to show everyone how smart he is by not spending and winning. 

He’s got the first part down…

[moonslav59]

I thought Fried might get $190M/7. It looks like the blue chippers get a 20-30% bump.

Our top choices are dwindling.

I'm not high on Burnes or Bregman, anyway.

Ho-hum, another sham winter.

[Randy Red Sox]

1 hour ago, Duran Is The Man said:

Henry has plenty of money to spend but he wants to show everyone how smart he is by not spending and winning. 

just when do we start the winning?

[Randy Red Sox]

15 minutes ago, moonslav59 said:

I thought Fried might get $190M/7. It looks like the blue chippers get a 20-30% bump.

Our top choices are dwindling.

I'm not high on Burnes or Bregman, anyway.

Ho-hum, another sham winter.

i'd sign Burnes but not Bergman.  we already have a 1B and 3B

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

24 minutes ago, Randy Red Sox said:

i'd sign Burnes but not Bergman.  we already have a 1B and 3B

 

24 minutes ago, Randy Red Sox said:

i'd sign Burnes but not Bergman.  we already have a 1B and 3B

SOX are prioritizing on Bergman when they need a top shelf starter. It's down to Burnes and Crochet and I believe the SOX get neither. 

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

Beginning to lose interest in the kings.