Trades?

[mvp 78]

DS also said Cora is out of here at the end of the year, because there's no way Henry pays someone $40 million to manage the Red Sox (which is what the Cubs gave Counsell, without the resume of AC).

 

Henry may not pay Cora 8 AAV to manage here, but he should.

[notin]

DS also said Cora is out of here at the end of the year, because there's no way Henry pays someone $40 million to manage the Red Sox (which is what the Cubs gave Counsell, without the resume of AC).

 

And it turns out, Counsell might not even be a very good manager…

[mvp 78]

And it turns out, Counsell might not even be a very good manager…

 

Might not?

[notin]

Might not?

 

I tell my Cub fan daughter he is their biggest issue. She's on the fence, but is aware of the bullpen problem...

[Bellhorn04]

Aside from Bello and Casas, Duran had the highest trade value for an MLB player. Of course he'd be a topic of trade discussions. I'd trade all three of them for the right return.

 

This can never be said enough.

[notin]

This can never be said enough.

 

We all appreciate you finally found the green text...

[Bellhorn04]

We all appreciate you finally found the green text...

 

Now if you find a spell check that actually works we'll be all set...

[notin]

Now if you find a spell check that actually works we'll be all set...

 

Spell check is for simians. Also, you assume too much.

 

I mean, how do you know whether or not English is even my first language? I bet my English is better than your Galician...

[sk7326]

Henry may not pay Cora 8 AAV to manage here, but he should.

 

Cora has done a great job. I doubt he comes back on that sort of bank - but there is also no luxury tax for managers. That said, the way Cora talks and the way the media portrays - his next contract is probably his last as an on-field manager no matter what.

[mvp 78]

This can never be said enough.

 

I've learned my lesson and will never say it again.

 

I'd trade all three of them for the right return.

[mvp 78]

@BOSSportsGordo

Two names that @JeffPassan says the Red Sox should look into if they’re in a position to buy at the deadline:

Luis Rengifo (LAA)

Pete Alonso (NYM)

 

Rengifo is a switch hitter and arb eligible for 2025.

[notin]

@BOSSportsGordo

Two names that @JeffPassan says the Red Sox should look into if they’re in a position to buy at the deadline:

Luis Rengifo (LAA)

Pete Alonso (NYM)

 

Rengifo is a switch hitter and arb eligible for 2025.

 

So no pitching? The depth is zero if anyone gets hurt...

[mvp 78]

So no pitching? The depth is zero if anyone gets hurt...

 

 

We're already passed that point. If Houck gets hurt, the season is probably toast.

 

Regardless, Passan is NOT a GM and I don't think he has much of an idea what he's talking about. If Sox want to really compete, I'm not sure what they'd plan. Is Winckowski the addition? Criswell?

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

 

We're already passed that point. If Houck gets hurt, the season is probably toast.

 

Regardless, Passan is NOT a GM and I don't think he has much of an idea what he's talking about. If Sox want to really compete, I'm not sure what they'd plan. Is Winckowski the addition? Criswell?

 

"Wink and Criz will be better than any pitchers we can trade for,"

 

said Mister President Sam Kandidly.

[moonslav59]

"Wink and Criz will be better than any pitchers we will trade for,"

 

said Mister President Sam Kandidly.

 

Fixed it for you.

[notin]

"Wink and Criz will be better than any pitchers we would trade for, if we were to pursue that option,”

 

said Mister President Sam Kandidly.

 

Fixed moon’s misleading fix

[moonslav59]

Fixed moon’s misleading fix

 

Will, would… WON’T!

[Maxbialystock]

Will, would… WON’T!

 

I think "won't" as well. Stay with the no names. Last night our opening day starter Bello got hammered by the Jays--7 ER's in 2.1 innings. But Winck came in and pitched 6 innings with 2 ER's, essentially a quality start. And lurking in Worcester is Criswell with 11 Red Sox starts, 52 IP, and a 4.15 ERA.

 

I think these guys can make the postseason, but I also think they should pretty much stay with the no-names plus Devers and Jansen. Keep Anthony, Mayer, and Teel. Keep Jansen. If a good arm or a good righty bat is available just for cash, fine.

[notin]

I think "won't" as well. Stay with the no names. Last night our opening day starter Bello got hammered by the Jays--7 ER's in 2.1 innings. But Winck came in and pitched 6 innings with 2 ER's, essentially a quality start. And lurking in Worcester is Criswell with 11 Red Sox starts, 52 IP, and a 4.15 ERA.

 

I think these guys can make the postseason, but I also think they should pretty much stay with the no-names plus Devers and Jansen. Keep Anthony, Mayer, and Teel. Keep Jansen. If a good arm or a good righty bat is available just for cash, fine.

 

 

The Sox can get a SP or RHH without giving up any of Anthony, Mayer or Teel. It’s actually gotten rare to see prospects of that caliber dealt mid-season any more, unless for multiple years of a superstar, like Juan Soto…

[moonslav59]

The Sox can get a SP or RHH without giving up any of Anthony, Mayer or Teel. It’s actually gotten rare to see prospects of that caliber dealt mid-season any more, unless for multiple years of a superstar, like Juan Soto…

 

I doubt we trade a top 10 prospect and maybe even no top 20’s.

 

These might be the highest prospect we might deal:

 

Sandlin

Paulino

Castro

Wikelman

Meidroth

Maybe Yorke

 

[moonslav59]

The prospects I’d really like to keep below #10?

The Garcia brothers

E R-C and any pitchers Bailey wants to keep.

[notin]

I doubt we trade a top 10 prospect and maybe even no top 20’s.

 

These might be the highest prospect we might deal:

 

Sandlin

Paulino

Castro

Wikelman

Meidroth

Maybe Yorke

 

 

I am not sure of this counts, but there is a significant amount of Yorke Hate.

 

 

There’s call for a RHH middle infielder this year. If the Sox swung a deal for a 22yo RHH second baseman with a .950 OPS in AAA and a first round pedigree, folks would be having children just so they could name them after Craig Breslow, even if they were daughters. Yet somehow there’s a slew of people ready to, as Bellhorn so loves to read, drive Yorke to the airport in any deal despite him fitting that exact description…

[moonslav59]

I am not sure of this counts, but there is a significant amount of Yorke Hate.

 

 

There’s call for a RHH middle infielder this year. If the Sox swung a deal for a 22yo RHH second baseman with a .950 OPS in AAA and a first round pedigree, folks would be having children just so they could name them after Craig Breslow, even if they were daughters. Yet somehow there’s a slew of people ready to, as Bellhorn so loves to read, drive Yorke to the airport in any deal despite him fitting that exact description…

 

First, I said maybe to only him.

Second the AAA sample size is small.

Third, the return would be more for him, and we are not talking a top 10 prospect.

[notin]

First, I said maybe to only him.

Second the AAA sample size is small.

Third, the return would be more for him, and we are not talking a top 10 prospect.

 

Yeah I wasn’t sure of your post counted as Yorke Hate. But it’s a real thing. Not sure why…

[Nick]

Cora is on the record stating he hopes the trade deadline is NOT the repeat of last 2 years.

 

"We tried but couldn't find anything to our liking" excuse won't cut it anymore.

Edited June 27, 2024 by Nick

[moonslav59]

Cora is on the record stating he hopes the trade deadline is NOT the repeat of last 2 years.

 

"We tried but couldn't find anything to our liking" excuse won't cut it anymore.

 

Cora spoke out after those two deadlines. It didn’t seem to change anything.

 

One good way to get good talent without giving up better prospects is to take on bloated contracts. Will JH allow this?

[Bellhorn04]

Cora spoke out after those two deadlines. It didn’t seem to change anything.

 

One good way to get good talent without giving up better prospects is to take on bloated contracts. Will JH allow this?

 

Any past examples?

[Hugh2]

Cora spoke out after those two deadlines. It didn’t seem to change anything.

 

One good way to get good talent without giving up better prospects is to take on bloated contracts. Will JH allow this?

 

It's a great way to take advantage of space you have under the cap, it's very reason why some teams when trying to stay under the cap leave that space of 10-15 million.

 

I used to think the only thing that mattered was the luxury tax number......given recent events and words from the front office I can't say I full heartedly believe the same thing.

[mvp 78]

I am not sure of this counts, but there is a significant amount of Yorke Hate.

 

 

There’s call for a RHH middle infielder this year. If the Sox swung a deal for a 22yo RHH second baseman with a .950 OPS in AAA and a first round pedigree, folks would be having children just so they could name them after Craig Breslow, even if they were daughters. Yet somehow there’s a slew of people ready to, as Bellhorn so loves to read, drive Yorke to the airport in any deal despite him fitting that exact description…

 

I don't think people HATE Yorke.

 

2022 GRE 668 OPS

2023 POR 785 OPS

2024 POR 691 OPS

 

I think people are rightfully skeptical about his production.

[Hugh2]

I don't think people HATE Yorke.

 

2022 GRE 668 OPS

2023 POR 785 OPS

2024 POR 691 OPS

 

I think people are rightfully skeptical about his production.

 

You're leaving out 2021.

Salem: .913

Greenville: .978

 

Not disagreeing with you, I understand why you would leave those out but I bring them up to outline peoples expectations with those numbers at his age and with the first round pedigree were sky high going into 2022, and he was pretty horrible that year, and he was good but not great in 2023 with not so hot underlying metrics either.

 

This year is just weird, because the numbers were not great in Portland repeating the level but reportedly the underlying metrics look better and now all of a sudden he's mashing in AAA.

 

I find that hopeful, but it doesn't erase 2 years of poor numbers. I'm rooting for the kid, but keeping my expectations very low. If he continues to produce in AAA as a 22 year old I think his future will start to look much brighter again, but the 2021 shine is just not there anymore for him. At best he might be what Atlanta thought Grissom would be.