Trades?

[Hugh2]

Can’t remember who had a hardo for trading Duran but you still want to “maximize his value”?????

[Hugh2]

Someone named cactus put a trade on BTV. Yoshida and Yorke (total: -9.5) for Anderson (-8.5)…

 

I’ll drive

[Duran Is The Man]

I’ll drive

 

i'll buy the gas.

[Larry Cook]

Can’t remember who had a hardo for trading Duran but you still want to “maximize his value”?????

 

I have no trouble trading Duran to Miami, if I get a talented Miami starter in return!

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

Even if the Sox drop a few games out of a wild card spot in July, it may be hard for Breslow to define his first year as CBO by selling off legitimate big leaguers.

 

Breslow knows exactly what picking this particular lane will mean to the team, coaching staff, fandom and media: surrender.

 

When Chaim Bloom dumped Cristian Vazquez a few summers ago, he got a couple decent prospects for a veteran catcher in decline. But it disrupted the parent team's clubhouse and seemingly cued the survivors to go through the motions down the stretch. Breslow can't risk that happening in Boston for the third straight year -- not when actual Red Sox fans are buying tickets again.

 

Trades will be made, but look for minor leaguers to be moved -- especially guys who may be vulnerable to the next Rule V draft.

[notin]

Can’t remember who had a hardo for trading Duran but you still want to “maximize his value”?????

 

Most of the folks against trading Duran were rejecting proposals with logic like “Duran isn’t good enough to get a starting pitcher.” Now that that is clearly untrue, I guess it’s time to pretend he was always simply too valuable and was always a good centerfieler…

[Dipre]

Can’t remember who had a hardo for trading Duran but you still want to “maximize his value”?????

 

mvp78 was the main driver behind the wheel of the trade Duran train.

[Hugh2]

Most of the folks against trading Duran were rejecting proposals with logic like “Duran isn’t good enough to get a starting pitcher.” Now that that is clearly untrue, I guess it’s time to pretend he was always simply too valuable and was always a good centerfieler…

 

 

I agree, and that was my take as well, but more recently there had been people talking about trading Duran now that his value is sky high.

 

I mean, everyone should be tradeable hypothetically for the right price.

 

But Duran is a keeper, when you finish last place 3 out of 4 years and you have to operate within the confines of a budget, you NEED young cost-controlled talent to build a winner. We need more Durans.

[Hugh2]

mvp78 was the main driver behind the wheel of the trade Duran train.

 

MVP? say it ain't so.

 

See comment above, I'm never fully off any train but Duran is starting to become a favorite, and given this teams recent track record with fan favorites it would be an awful look trading him.

[mvp 78]

Someone named cactus put a trade on BTV. Yoshida and Yorke (total: -9.5) for Anderson (-8.5)…

 

Ok.

[mvp 78]

Can’t remember who had a hardo for trading Duran but you still want to “maximize his value”?????

 

What are they getting back?

[mvp 78]

mvp78 was the main driver behind the wheel of the trade Duran train.

 

To get a starting pitcher. Sure. Let's get a top of the rotation starter.

[mvp 78]

Aside from Bello and Casas, Duran had the highest trade value for an MLB player. Of course he'd be a topic of trade discussions. I'd trade all three of them for the right return.

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

The talking heads of Felger, Tomase, Shaughnessey and ALEX SPEIER that cover the Red Sox just gave their consensus on the upcoming trade deadline: despite Boston's upstart playoff aspirations, there's absolutely no way Henry lets the front office veer from THE PLAN -- which is NO PLAN to do anything to actually improve this year's roster.

 

No matter what posters think about certain professionals who cover the Sox for a living, the most chilling comments may have come from the well-respected Speier, who said Breslow is all about the odds -- and those will determine which lane he chooses to follow.

 

Has Brez been out of uniform that long? Here's a guy who was traded, himself, on the last day of July, 2012, to a franchise that nobody predicted would win it all the next season -- but had the heart and the guts and the cojones to beat the odds...

[Larry Cook]

Aside from Bello and Casas, Duran had the highest trade value for an MLB player. Of course he'd be a topic of trade discussions. I'd trade all three of them for the right return.

 

There were reports Miami really likes cassas!!!

[sk7326]

The talking heads of Felger, Tomase, Shaughnessey and ALEX SPEIER that cover the Red Sox just gave their consensus on the upcoming trade deadline: despite Boston's upstart playoff aspirations, there's absolutely no way Henry lets the front office veer from THE PLAN -- which is NO PLAN to do anything to actually improve this year's roster.

 

No matter what posters think about certain professionals who cover the Sox for a living, the most chilling comments may have come from the well-respected Speier, who said Breslow is all about the odds -- and those will determine which lane he chooses to follow.

 

Has Brez been out of uniform that long? Here's a guy who was traded, himself, on the last day of July, 2012, to a franchise that nobody predicted would win it all the next season -- but had the heart and the guts and the cojones to beat the odds...

 

While I think the team is skeptical about whether this club will turn into a pumpkin before the deadline - if the team wins some more and gets to like 10 games over .500, the mandate might change a little.

 

For instance (Passan suggested this), if the team keeps hanging in there - why NOT do a 2021 Schwarber and see what it would take to rent Pete Alonso for the rest of the season. If you wanted to be a little more ambitious, do you look at someone like Rengifo from the Angels who still has some control.

[mvp 78]

There were reports Miami really likes cassas!!!

 

I thought the rumor was Rafaela?

[mvp 78]

The talking heads of Felger, Tomase, Shaughnessey and ALEX SPEIER that cover the Red Sox just gave their consensus on the upcoming trade deadline: despite Boston's upstart playoff aspirations, there's absolutely no way Henry lets the front office veer from THE PLAN -- which is NO PLAN to do anything to actually improve this year's roster.

 

No matter what posters think about certain professionals who cover the Sox for a living, the most chilling comments may have come from the well-respected Speier, who said Breslow is all about the odds -- and those will determine which lane he chooses to follow.

 

Has Brez been out of uniform that long? Here's a guy who was traded, himself, on the last day of July, 2012, to a franchise that nobody predicted would win it all the next season -- but had the heart and the guts and the cojones to beat the odds...

 

I'm not so sure about that. I think the plan is to spend up to the the luxury cap. Henry wants the Sox to make moves at the deadline IF they are in it. He was frustrated at the inaction at the previous two deadlines from what I heard.

[mvp 78]

While I think the team is skeptical about whether this club will turn into a pumpkin before the deadline - if the team wins some more and gets to like 10 games over .500, the mandate might change a little.

 

For instance (Passan suggested this), if the team keeps hanging in there - why NOT do a 2021 Schwarber and see what it would take to rent Pete Alonso for the rest of the season. If you wanted to be a little more ambitious, do you look at someone like Rengifo from the Angels who still has some control.

 

Alonso is a bigger get than what Schwarber was at the time. Schwarber was injured and missed a few weeks.

[sk7326]

Alonso is a bigger get than what Schwarber was at the time. Schwarber was injured and missed a few weeks.

 

Right - but I would absolutely look into the price ... for 2-3 months, he'd be a perfect fit ... the need at 1B OR DH is big enough

[notin]

Alonso is a bigger get than what Schwarber was at the time. Schwarber was injured and missed a few weeks.

 

The biggest issue with an Alonso trade is the Mets’ playoff position isn’t much worse than Boston’s. They simply might not sell.

 

The second biggest issue is the number of potential suitors, which could include the Mariners, Yankees, and semi-revitalized Astros squad looking to upgrade over Jon Singleton and the Ghost of Jose Abreu…

[sk7326]

The biggest issue with an Alonso trade is the Mets’ playoff position isn’t much worse than Boston’s. They simply might not sell.

 

The second biggest issue is the number of potential suitors, which could include the Mariners, Yankees, and semi-revitalized Astros squad looking to upgrade over Jon Singleton and the Ghost of Jose Abreu…

 

Now Alonso is probably 2nd choice to a lot of these clubs to Goldschmidt. The imact that has, I'm not sure.

[mvp 78]

The biggest issue with an Alonso trade is the Mets’ playoff position isn’t much worse than Boston’s.

 

The second biggest issue is the number of potential suitors, which could include the Mariners, Yankees, and semi-revitalized Astros squad looking to upgrade over Jon Singleton and the Ghost of Jose Abreu…

 

Yeah, seems like an unlikely scenario to me too.

 

What about another 1B/DH RHB that is going to be a FA at year's end: Mark Canha. He should be cheaper and is on a team that is well out of it. That seems like a target that should be more reasonable?

 

921 OPS vs LHP

[mvp 78]

Now Alonso is probably 2nd choice to a lot of these clubs to Goldschmidt. The imact that has, I'm not sure.

 

Goldschmidt is on a team that currently has a Wild Card spot. Mets have a few teams ahead of them to even get there.

[notin]

Yeah, seems like an unlikely scenario to me too.

 

What about another 1B/DH RHB that is going to be a FA at year's end: Mark Canha. He should be cheaper and is on a team that is well out of it. That seems like a target that should be more reasonable?

 

921 OPS vs LHP

 

Or Connor Joe…

[notin]

Now Alonso is probably 2nd choice to a lot of these clubs to Goldschmidt. The imact that has, I'm not sure.

 

Goldschmidt and his .662 OPS is more appealing?

 

Granted, he doesn’t seem crazy like Alonso does sometimes…

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

I'm not so sure about that. I think the plan is to spend up to the the luxury cap. Henry wants the Sox to make moves at the deadline IF they are in it. He was frustrated at the inaction at the previous two deadlines from what I heard.

 

DS also said Cora is out of here at the end of the year, because there's no way Henry pays someone $40 million to manage the Red Sox (which is what the Cubs gave Counsell, without the resume of AC).

[mvp 78]

Or Connor Joe…

 

Too many years of control IMO. Pirates would want to much for what we'd be willing to give up. I don't think we'd need him through 2027, but the Bucs do.

[mvp 78]

Goldschmidt and his .662 OPS is more appealing?

 

Granted, he doesn’t seem crazy like Alonso does sometimes…

 

708 vs LHP too.

[notin]

Too many years of control IMO. Pirates would want to much for what we'd be willing to give up. I don't think we'd need him through 2027, but the Bucs do.

 

Can we work out some sort of “lease with an option to buy” arrangement?