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Don’t judge what’s cared about on here to what’s out in the vast other parts of RSN.

 

What the f*** are you talking about?

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Well, now he can get blue balls from waiting for prospects that never pan out.

 

Hey, some do pan out. Hi Jarren.

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If Red Sox nation was polled, what % would be upset that the Sox didn't do whatever it took to keep Mookie? 75%? More? Less?

 

Again, if we're talking about the average avid Sox fan -- and that would exclude most of this entire board or any forum where fanatics post 365 days per year -- then I'd say:

 

... at the time, one hundred percent.

 

... at this time, one kajillion percent.

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Hey, some do pan out. Hi Jarren.

 

And they get to celebrate his 28th birthday with him this September. A shame it couldn't happen sooner. If it takes Roman Anthony that long, he'll be in his third organization by then.

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I think Xander, Eovaldi and others are lesser issues. Mookie is what put this franchise on a downward spiral for 4 or more years.

 

For me, it was not merely not re-signing Mookie - though I certainly think they should have. It was the dawdling about the entire thing - if they knew he wanted to leave (premise) they were not bold about moving him earlier. If they were counting on keeping him, they did not go to the mat. Door #1 here is a hard PR sell, but it would have at least been defensible.

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For me, it was not merely not re-signing Mookie - though I certainly think they should have. It was the dawdling about the entire thing - if they knew he wanted to leave (premise) they were not bold about moving him earlier. If they were counting on keeping him, they did not go to the mat. Door #1 here is a hard PR sell, but it would have at least been defensible.

 

They were set to trade Betts during the 2019 season, but the Sox went on a mini streak and Dombrowski decided to keep him around.

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What the f*** are you talking about?

 

He thinks he is the voice of the vast majority of Red Sox Nation because he talks baseball to like two or three other people, one of whom might be his own reflection in the bathroom mirror…

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They were set to trade Betts during the 2019 season, but the Sox went on a mini streak and Dombrowski decided to keep him around.

 

The Will Smith vs Connor Wong dilemma…

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He thinks he is the voice of the vast majority of Red Sox Nation because he talks baseball to like two or three other people, one of whom might be his own reflection in the bathroom mirror…

 

TalkSox bad. Bar down the street good.

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TalkSox bad. Bar down the street good.

 

Maybe he’s one of those boys down at Clancy’s that dgalehouse is always going on about…

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Losing Betts was of course the prime example of this ownership not spending when it should have.

 

Sounds like budget talk gets into your thoughts, too

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He thinks he is the voice of the vast majority of Red Sox Nation because he talks baseball to like two or three other people, one of whom might be his own reflection in the bathroom mirror…

 

NN what is your excuse. I doubt you get out on the stump very often. You conveniently left out many different venues, publications, and a lot more, and different people than on here.It doesn’t even have to be a majority that what gets constantly discussed than on here.

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NN what is your excuse. I doubt you get out on the stump very often. You conveniently left out many different venues, publications, and a lot more, and different people than on here.It doesn’t even have to be a majority that what gets constantly discussed than on here.

 

And you seem to ignore that the way baseball gets talked about on here is not unique to this site. Go to any Sox forum on the internet, and there will be some people talking about metrics, etc. Also people talking about farm system and prospects. And absolutely some Old School stat folk.

 

There simply is not one common set of beliefs any more. For the past 30 years, I have been a loyal subscriber to Baseball Digest, which is definitely old school stuff. But I enjoy it. But I know there are dozens if not hundreds of other publications that delve deeper in to the math and the metrics. While that stuff is all good, true and (presumably) accurate, I don't read them as often. Because Baseball Digest is simply more fun to read...

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And you seem to ignore that the way baseball gets talked about on here is not unique to this site. Go to any Sox forum on the internet, and there will be some people talking about metrics, etc. Also people talking about farm system and prospects. And absolutely some Old School stat folk.

 

There simply is not one common set of beliefs any more. For the past 30 years, I have been a loyal subscriber to Baseball Digest, which is definitely old school stuff. But I enjoy it. But I know there are dozens if not hundreds of other publications that delve deeper in to the math and the metrics. While that stuff is all good, true and (presumably) accurate, I don't read them as often. Because Baseball Digest is simply more fun to read...

 

Baseball Digest. damn that brought back some memories. i used to read every issue of that and football digest starting in the early 70's but haven't read either one in probably 30 years. thanks for bringing that up.

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Baseball Digest. damn that brought back some memories. i used to read every issue of that and football digest starting in the early 70's but haven't read either one in probably 30 years. thanks for bringing that up.

 

I remember those days, too. Although the data was a week old, it was still worth it.

 

The Sporting News was another biggie.

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I remember those days, too. Although the data was a week old, it was still worth it.

 

The Sporting News was another biggie.

 

Baseball Digest and The Sporting News were both awesome.

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Baseball Digest and The Sporting News were both awesome.

 

Box scores, box scores, box scores! The old Sporting News Paper was great.

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Baseball Digest and The Sporting News were both awesome.

 

both replaced by websites you have to pay for. I liked it where you could look up say ther top 25 hitters in the AL without having to miss a meal or 2 to pay for it

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Baseball Digest and The Sporting News were both awesome.

 

Baseball Digest is still good. But it’s no longer that handy pocket-size journal. Full size pages (and not as many of them). It still has the Quick Quiz, which is the most difficult monthly baseball trivia quiz in print. (In 30 years of quick quizzes, my record is 6 out of 10.)

 

Sporting News for baseball peaked (IMO) in the early 2000’s when they added journeyman RHRP Todd Jones to the staff, and then Jones got an offer to pitch for the Tigers, so he wrote his columns as an active major leaguer. Also, like him or not (and I like him), Ken Rosenthal was still there at the time…

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Box scores, box scores, box scores! The old Sporting News Paper was great.

 

For box scores, the Globe was king. Only paper I know of in the USA that at one point included NPB box scores from Japan. No idea why…

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The World Champion Boston Celtics were just put up for sale today. Could JH, and FSG add the Celtics to his portfolio?
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The World Champion Boston Celtics were just put up for sale today. Could JH, and FSG add the Celtics to his portfolio?

 

Please no…

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Please no…

 

Isn't Lebron James a part of FSG? If he is, I don't see how FSG would be allowed to have an interest in any NBA team, at least until he retires.

 

So maybe we’ve got that going for us.

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Isn't Lebron James a part of FSG? If he is, I don't see how FSG would be allowed to have an interest in any NBA team, at least until he retires.

 

So maybe we’ve got that going for us.

 

There have been rumors for awhile about expansion in the NBA, including a Vegas team and Lebron himself has said he’d be interested in an expansion team. I don’t know the legality of that happening, but I think that is more likely to happen than FSG purchasing the Celtics.

 

Lebron may even be retired by the time the opportunity for the Vegas team comes up. I say “may” because Lebron could probably play into his 40s because he’s that good.

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I'm not sure if the percentage of ownership matters, Lebron has a minority stake.

 

I saw a meme yesterday pertaining to John Henry buying the Celtics.

 

Tatum in a Lakers Jersey and Brown in a Hawks Jersey the next day.

 

I do get nervous about the timing and who may buy them. With Tatums new deal in 2025/2026 the Celtics will have a tax bill over 200 million. If someone cheap buys this team and they have even a slight drop off next season then the wrong owner could be inclined to start selling off assets to reduce that tax hit.

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