A Realistic View at 2024: Part I

[Old Red]

He gave up nothing for a one year rental. It’s not a big deal.

 

I don’t care if he came to the Red Sox for free. Is that the best option out there? Was trading Dugy to the Yankees the best option?

[Bellhorn04]

That he has big arms?

 

Sure, just like Nomar's SI cover only indicated he was in shape.

[Bellhorn04]

O'Neill has had an extraordinary amount of difficulty staying on the field for long the past two seasons, with injuries to just about every part of his body.

[mvp 78]

Sure, just like Nomar's SI cover only indicated he was in shape.

 

What was the injury that sidelined him that year?

[mvp 78]

O'Neill has had an extraordinary amount of difficulty staying on the field for long the past two seasons, with injuries to just about every part of his body.

 

Foot and knee injuries are common for roid users now? Give me a break.

[Randy Red Sox]

He gave up nothing for a one year rental. It’s not a big deal.

 

guy is a cancer which is why the Cardinals GAVE him away. To save a few more dollars they traded for this guy rather than signing a dirt dog like Duvall.

[moonslav59]

That he has big arms?

 

Yes, you can look like that without roids.

[moonslav59]

I don’t care if he came to the Red Sox for free. Is that the best option out there? Was trading Dugy to the Yankees the best option?

 

Trading Dugo was a good option.

 

To the Yanks? We'll see.

 

Was O'Neill the best option for $5.5M? We'll see. If the idea was to save money by replacing Dugo with O'Neill, and we use that money wisely, it's a good plan.

 

We'll see.

[moonslav59]

O'Neill has had an extraordinary amount of difficulty staying on the field for long the past two seasons, with injuries to just about every part of his body.

 

So, he maybe "used" roids 12 years ago, and that causes foot and knee injuries?

 

480 PAs in A+ & Fall league in 2015 (at 20 years old)

564 in AA/Fall in '16

557 in AAA in '17

415 in AAA and MLB as a back up in '18

341 in '19 bouncing between MLB, AAA and AA

157 in the COVID season of '20

537 in 2021- his "big year"

383 in '22

297 in '23 (counting 31 in AAA rehab)

 

[Old Red]

Trading Dugo was a good option.

 

To the Yanks? We'll see.

 

Was O'Neill the best option for $5.5M? We'll see. If the idea was to save money by replacing Dugo with O'Neill, and we use that money wisely, it's a good plan.

 

We'll see.

 

A lot of We’ll see.

[moonslav59]

guy is a cancer which is why the Cardinals GAVE him away. To save a few more dollars they traded for this guy rather than signing a dirt dog like Duvall.

 

2021-2023

 

.255 57 159 in 306 gms (1186 PAs) O'Neill .800 OPS ($5.5M)

 

.221 71 207 in 324 gms (1123 PAs) Duvall .766 OPS ($8-9M x 1 or 2 years?)

 

[moonslav59]

A lot of We’ll see.

 

Hey, you got my point!

[sk7326]

A lot of this comes down to whether O'Neill can play more than one outfield position. I don't know if he is a starter, but with Yoshida, Duran, Casas taking up some of those corner/DH positions, having a right handed bat is not a bad idea. It would have been nice to have Verdugo AND O'Neill as a right handed platoon partner.

 

Given who got traded and O'Neill's own salary - the downside is pretty small ... and he doesn't block any of the Red Sox OF prospects if they make ML level leaps.

[Bellhorn04]

So, he maybe "used" roids 12 years ago, and that causes foot and knee injuries?

 

480 PAs in A+ & Fall league in 2015 (at 20 years old)

564 in AA/Fall in '16

557 in AAA in '17

415 in AAA and MLB as a back up in '18

341 in '19 bouncing between MLB, AAA and AA

157 in the COVID season of '20

537 in 2021- his "big year"

383 in '22

297 in '23 (counting 31 in AAA rehab)

 

 

Looks like he had 4 trips to the IL in 2022, and 2 in 2023, one of them 2.5 months. That's a lot of trips in 2 seasons.

[Larry Cook]

It is a contract year for O’Neil. I am sure his agent is harping on staying healthy for the whole year and being a good citizen in the locker room!!!!

 

Maybe we give O’Neil a chance to dh against lefties??? Got to be better than yoshida.

[dgalehouse]

We asked Red Sox assistant team physician, Dr. Jerry Graham, for his opinion on O'Neill . He said , " Tyler (The Body ) O'Neill is the real deal. A steal. The man with appeal. The ladies will squeal. A physical specimen who lifts thousands of pounds . Absolutely free of anabolic steroids. We are going to get him to cut back a bit in the gym to avoid all those workout injuries. Buy your tickets now. "

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

Looks like he had 4 trips to the IL in 2022, and 2 in 2023, one of them 2.5 months. That's a lot of trips in 2 seasons.

 

Too many mushrooms in his peanut butter...

[notin]

That he has big arms?

 

MLB is adopting asking “does he have big arms?” as their new steroid test…

[Randy Red Sox]

Dodgers just signed ohtani stealing him right from under the Blue Jays !! UNBELIEVABLE

[moonslav59]

Looks like he had 4 trips to the IL in 2022, and 2 in 2023, one of them 2.5 months. That's a lot of trips in 2 seasons.

 

Yes, it is. It is a major concern.

 

He costs $5.5M/1. That makes the risk small.

 

We don't hear much about Duvall starting just 162 games in 2022 and 2023 combined. We all seem fine with signing him.

[moonslav59]

I'm glad Ohtani is in the NL.

 

I wonder if Kershaw is up for grabs, now.

[dgalehouse]

If you like to look at the bright side, the Dodgers are probably now out of the Yamamoto sweepstakes.

[moonslav59]

If you like to look at the bright side, the Dodgers are probably now out of the Yamamoto sweepstakes.

 

Maybe Kershaw will finally pitch for another team.

 

I'd love to see him sign with the Sox for 1 year wit a team option.

[dgalehouse]

Maybe Kershaw will finally pitch for another team.

 

I'd love to see him sign with the Sox for 1 year wit a team option.

 

I think Kershaw is a Dodger for life.

[moonslav59]

The idea of thinking maybe getting 3 third tier SP'ers might become our best hope for significant rotation improvement.

 

3 from...

 

Stroman, Imanaga

Lugo, Clevinger, Giolito, Wacha

 

Or, two from above plus one of...

Paxton, Flaherty, Mahle or maybe Montas

[jad]

Oh man, that O'Neill signing is looking better and better! What a bargain. Can you believe how the dumbass Dodgers throw money away?

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

The idea of thinking maybe getting 3 third tier SP'ers might become our best hope for significant rotation improvement.

 

3 from...

 

Stroman, Imanaga

Lugo, Clevinger, Giolito, Wacha

 

Or, two from above plus one of...

Paxton, Flaherty, Mahle or maybe Montas

 

Disagree. The best hope for significant rotation improvement are third tier brass: Breslow, Bailey and Bloom (the latter for prospect capital he wouldn't trade that will soon be dealt...).

 

The Standstiller Bees are about to become the Uphiller Bees.

[Larry Cook]

Imanaga for 4 years and lugo for three years!!!

 

Sale

Imanaga

Lugo

Bello

Crawford

 

I am not sure many teams are scared

[cp176]

Oh man, that O'Neill signing is looking better and better! What a bargain. Can you believe how the dumbass Dodgers throw money away?

 

So Verdugo is gone because of the primary reason that he and Cora just weren't seeing eye to eye. I get that . The return for us was pretty puny so we are probably pretty sure that he was shipped out just because.

Now we have hired Tip O'neil essentially to take his place. Tell me please that this franchise is going to start to try to play with the big boys again. Oh i know - i'm just one of those spoiled whiny fans but have to say that most of what we have done recently is embarrassing for me anyway. Is this who we are now?

[Duran Is The Man]

The idea of thinking maybe getting 3 third tier SP'ers might become our best hope for significant rotation improvement.

 

3 from...

 

Stroman, Imanaga

Lugo, Clevinger, Giolito, Wacha

 

Or, two from above plus one of...

Paxton, Flaherty, Mahle or maybe Montas

 

my gawd has Henry has lowered the expectations of a once great franchise.