Bloom fired

[moonslav59]

I don’t know of that was ever offered, but in would have at least hoped for a better pitcher than Maeda, who has only started 53 games in the past 4 years with a 106 ERA+.

 

If we’re getting a hindsight package, maybe fewer oft-injured pitchers..,

 

They basically traded Maeda for Graterol, so I think it could have been a deal.

[moonslav59]

Horse s*** You only came late to the party after it was a fait accompli. You have zigged and zagged on Bloom for the last several months and have taken every position possible, so you could cover your ass and claim you were right whatever the outcome.

 

More strawman.

 

I have maintained last winter was Bloom's make or break winter. When things looked good in July, we all felt Bloom's job was safe.

 

There is no need to lie.

[moonslav59]

👍👍👍.

 

Thumbs up to the strawman.

 

Typical.

[notin]

You who has the reading comprehension level of a third grader are in no position to lecture anyone on nouns and verbs.

 

If you were as smart as you think you are, you would know that those who suffer from weak intellect did not choose to do so. Whereas being an insufferable ******* such as yourself was straight up your choice…

[moonslav59]

After the season, the Red Sox made the surprising announcement that Alex Cora would have some input into the search for a new lead baseball executive. The reasoning went like this: the Red Sox wanted to make sure Cora and the new hire would be able to forge a good working relationship. That raised eyebrows throughout the game, since it’s highly unusual for managers to have a hand in hiring their boss.

 

But according to a well-placed source, Cora has had very little involvement in the process to date.

 

-Sean McAdam

 

Makes some recent narratives questionable.

[Randy Red Sox]

is everyone here not glad that Bloom decided to sign Kluber rather than bringing Eovaldi back last offseason?

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

is everyone here not glad that Bloom decided to sign Kluber rather than bringing Eovaldi back last offseason?

 

Eovaldi? He gets hurt too much, too much of an IL risk, not a good longterm investment, because he's too much of a... pitcher.

 

If you sign a starting pitcher who's good now, it might make your team good now, but does that really matter? Even if there's no guarantee there will be another now then, many fans are more concerned about the future (there must be at least two of them).

 

But for this winter, a lot are hoping the Sox spend 10 times what it would've cost to keep Eovaldi to sign other pitchers who have never proven they can succeed in Boston...

[moonslav59]

I don't think many posters were against bringing Nate back, despite all the missed time and a stretch of ineffectiveness.

[Hugh2]

I don't think many posters were against bringing Nate back, despite all the missed time and a stretch of ineffectiveness.

 

I’m not saying I was the only one but I remember taking a lot of flake for even suggesting Nate get offered a QO.

 

I would have preferred him back on a 1 year anyways if he did accept. Would have been a good deal

[Bellhorn04]

I’m not saying I was the only one but I remember taking a lot of flake for even suggesting Nate get offered a QO.

 

I would have preferred him back on a 1 year anyways if he did accept. Would have been a good deal

 

Yeah, but no way he wasn't getting a 2-3 year deal.

[notin]

Eovaldi? He gets hurt too much, too much of an IL risk, not a good longterm investment, because he's too much of a... pitcher.

 

If you sign a starting pitcher who's good now, it might make your team good now, but does that really matter? Even if there's no guarantee there will be another now then, many fans are more concerned about the future (there must be at least two of them).

 

But for this winter, a lot are hoping the Sox spend 10 times what it would've cost to keep Eovaldi to sign other pitchers who have never proven they can succeed in Boston...

 

It’s just Boston. Not like they have to pitch in Arizona where they have all that heat. Plus two trips to Colorado every year…

 

[notin]

Yeah, but no way he wasn't getting a 2-3 year deal.

 

1 year $60mill!!

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

It’s just Boston. Not like they have to pitch in Arizona where they have all that heat. Plus two trips to Colorado every year…

 

 

It's not too hot for the pitchers, but for the baseballs! As I stated from my own observations, the ball bounces faster on the baked surfaces, and flies further in the dry air.

 

I know there is a lot of debate on fly balls in dry vs humid air. Here's one study that says a home run in Miami that goes 417 feet would travel 458 feet in Phoenix:

https://www.daytondailynews.com/weather/does-humidity-lead-more-home-runs-baseball/oP4c9mGNHtBAo1gYDpFODJ/

 

Put it this way: there has to be some reason they built ballparks with leftfield foul poles 360 away from home plate.

 

Retirees actually move to Arizona because of the climate (well, before it was 115)... it's hot, but a lot less humid. Here's a simple test: try to drive to a restaurant in the Phoenix area on any weekday between 4-5 p.m. It may take you the full hour to get there, because the whole road system is grided and there are stop lights on every block, but also -- nobody old wants to stay home and cook and clean anymore!

[moonslav59]

Yeah, but no way he wasn't getting a 2-3 year deal.

 

True, and we offered that, too- briefly.

[mvp 78]

In my opinion, some of Bloom's biggest mistakes that led to his firing are:

 

a. The poor return for Mookie Betts.

b. Not resigning Kyle Schwarber. The dude has 52 homers this year so far. He is a good teammate, patient hitter and he would have signed for a reasonable amount.

c. Not resigning Eovaldi and Wacha.

d. Holding on to aging veterans at the last two trade deadlines when he could have got some decent prospects for a lot of them.

e. Not adding anything at the last two trade deadlines. If you don't sell, you have to buy right?

f. The last two teams have been poorly constructed.

g. Signing Kluber

 

Granted, Bloom did make some good moves during his tenure but the team just looked uninterested and undermanned the last two years. The fans aren't excited about the team. Attendance is down. Something had to change.

 

d, e, f and g are the biggest reasons IMO.

[notin]

d, e, f and g are the biggest reasons IMO.

 

d and e could have fixed f and g.

 

I hope signing Kluber was not a reason he was fired. Is the new standard “one bad contract, even a one year deal, and you’re out!” If so, we’re going to get a new CBO every year. Maybe more often…

[mvp 78]

Simple Bloom sucked at his job. Cora and the rest of the Red Sox FO wanted him out as did the vast majority of Red Sox Nation except the Legion of Bloom the majority of whom are found here. Henry accepted the wishes.

 

Name them.

[mvp 78]

I’m not saying I was the only one but I remember taking a lot of flake for even suggesting Nate get offered a QO.

 

I would have preferred him back on a 1 year anyways if he did accept. Would have been a good deal

 

Nate on a QO is a slam dunk. If he takes it, you get him for one more year. If he doesn't, you can get a comp pick or sign a QO guy and not lose a pick.

[Old Red]

Name them.

 

Oh the old, old, old name game again.

[mvp 78]

Oh the old, old, old name game again.

 

When a poster is saying there's a LEGION OF BLOOM supporters on this board that is bigger than anywhere else, I think it should be fair for the poster to say who they are actually referring to.

 

Also, I've seen way more pro-Bloom fans on Twitter, some of whom were righteously pissed off when Bloom was fired. Nobody on here was mad when he was fired, but somehow this board has exclusive access to Bloom supporters? That doesn't make sense to me.

[mvp 78]

d and e could have fixed f and g.

 

I hope signing Kluber was not a reason he was fired. Is the new standard “one bad contract, even a one year deal, and you’re out!” If so, we’re going to get a new CBO every year. Maybe more often…

 

It was one big stew that led to 3 out of 4 years being bad to below average.

[Old Red]

When a poster is saying there's a LEGION OF BLOOM supporters on this board that is bigger than anywhere else, I think it should be fair for the poster to say who they are actually referring to.

 

Also, I've seen way more pro-Bloom fans on Twitter, some of whom were righteously pissed off when Bloom was fired. Nobody on here was mad when he was fired, but somehow this board has exclusive access to Bloom supporters? That doesn't make sense to me.

 

Perception is everything. Everyone was crystal clear where I stood on Bloom. I don’t do Twitter, so if Bloom has some fans on there good for him.

[moonslav59]

Perception is everything. Everyone was crystal clear where I stood on Bloom. I don’t do Twitter, so if Bloom has some fans on there good for him.

 

Just making sure nobody missed you back patting.

[Old Red]

Just making sure nobody missed you back patting.

 

At least I have things to pat myself on the back about. You don’t. LMAO!

[moonslav59]

When a poster is saying there's a LEGION OF BLOOM supporters on this board that is bigger than anywhere else, I think it should be fair for the poster to say who they are actually referring to.

 

Also, I've seen way more pro-Bloom fans on Twitter, some of whom were righteously pissed off when Bloom was fired. Nobody on here was mad when he was fired, but somehow this board has exclusive access to Bloom supporters? That doesn't make sense to me.

 

I know plenty of Sox fans who could care less who the GM is. Many can't even name him.

 

Pretending to know the exact breakdown of who liked Bloom, was okay with him, disliked him or really disliked him- both in Sox nation and the disparity between that and this board's numbers is a joke.

 

The whole "my corner is bigger than yours," and thinking ONLY they know the true pulse of Sox Nation is befuddling, to me. It's like they seek verification by majority opinion- also a joke. Even if they are right about what the majority thinks, it does not make their position right or wrong.

 

[moonslav59]

At least I have things to pat myself on the back about. You don’t. LMAO!

 

A perfect synopsis of your personality and contribution to this site.

 

Thanks for exposing your true self for all to see.

[Dipre]

d and e could have fixed f and g.

 

I hope signing Kluber was not a reason he was fired. Is the new standard “one bad contract, even a one year deal, and you’re out!” If so, we’re going to get a new CBO every year. Maybe more often…

 

This is what really really scares me.

[Dipre]

If you were as smart as you think you are, you would know that those who suffer from weak intellect did not choose to do so. Whereas being an insufferable ******* such as yourself was straight up your choice…

 

I should sig this.

[Old Red]

A perfect synopsis of your personality and contribution to this site.

 

Thanks for exposing your true self for all to see.

 

You expose yourself everyday, and more often than anyone else on this site, and it’s not a good sight, and with a straight face you sit there, and say you’re not a Bloom guy. There’s not enough words to describe that. OMG! OMG! OMG!🤭🤭🤮.

[Dipre]

You expose yourself everyday, and more often than anyone else on this site, and it’s not a good sight, and with a straight face you sit there, and say you’re not a Bloom guy. There’s not enough words to describe that. OMG! OMG! OMG!.

 

Are you perchance actually one of Elktonnick's multiple personalities, but on his meds?