2019 Trade Deadline Thread

[Bellhorn04]

Trading Beni would be sheer madness, frankly, with Betts and JBJ only controlled through 2020 and many talking about trading one or both of THEM...

[Slasher9]

mets want beni or jbj

[Noles_1335]

mets want beni or jbj

 

see ya JBJ.....

[dgalehouse]

Dalbec in a million years will never make the play Chavis made last Saturday against the Yankees, of diving for the ball hit up the middle at 2nd, getting up Tagging the 2nd base bag, and completing the DP unassisted, and saving a run.

 

Here's more . Chavis is batting .260 , with 16 home runs in 83 games against major league pitching . Dalbec , who by the way , is a year older than Chavis , is batting .230 with 20 home runs in 101 games against Double A pitching . No question in my mind which one is the keeper .

[notin]

mets want beni or jbj

 

Love JBJ but I send him to Queens for Diaz.

 

That said, it can’t be a 1 for 1 deal...

[notin]

Here's more . Chavis is batting .260 , with 16 home runs in 83 games against major league pitching . Dalbec , who by the way , is a year older than Chavis , is batting .230 with 20 home runs in 101 games against Double A pitching . No question in my mind which one is the keeper .

 

Dalbec is the better fielder, but with Devers taking 3b, I keep Chavis. 1b is just not as hard to defend as 3b.

 

I’ve taken the stance most of the season that I am surprised Dalbec is still with this organization...

[jung]

Some talking heads stating that the Sox are now looking elsewhere for a lower level alternative to Diaz.

[moonslav59]

Dalbec in a million years will never make the play Chavis made last Saturday against the Yankees, of diving for the ball hit up the middle at 2nd, getting up Tagging the 2nd base bag, and completing the DP unassisted, and saving a run.

 

You are right, because he will never play 2B.

 

Dalbec did win Defensive Player of the Year, so he can't be all that bad.

[oldtimer]

Anyway at this point there is only lukewarm interest apparently between Sox and Mets for a deal. Apparently the nutty Mets are talking beni for diaz and that is just crazy talk. I am not averse to trading beni but I want to trade high on beni and beni/diaz is not trading high on beni.

 

I have no idea what the mets are doing and we might just have to avoid them entirely. If they flip Stroman then Mets world is back on axis again. If they don't I remain having no clue.

 

Beni is too much for Diaz. He is young, good with speed and may up with a 300 avg, well over 800 OPS and is low cost. If we have to offer a starter to get a top BP prospect, make it JBJ. He is still a very good defensive CF but we know he is a streaky hitter plus he is getting expensive.

[kenmeister]

Beni is too much for Diaz. He is young, good with speed and may up with a 300 avg, well over 800 OPS and is low cost. If we have to offer a starter to get a top BP prospect, make it JBJ. He is still a very good defensive CF but we know he is a streaky hitter plus he is getting expensive.

 

If I'm the Mets I will ask Workman for Diaz.

[oldtimer]

You are right, because he will never play 2B.

 

Dalbec did win Defensive Player of the Year, so he can't be all that bad.

 

You are right, he doesn't have the physique and quickness for second base but there may be a place for him next season at first with Moreland likely gone and of course Pearce will be gone. He is another guy who strikes out a lot so maybe he would have trouble overcoming that problem as you show concern that Chavis has that same issue. Maybe DD doesn't find a way to trade for a top level closer and we can use lower prospects to get some fill in arm for the BP.

[kenmeister]

You are right, he doesn't have the physique and quickness for second base but there may be a place for him next season at first with Moreland likely gone and of course Pearce will be gone. He is another guy who strikes out a lot so maybe he would have trouble overcoming that problem as you show concern that Chavis has that same issue. Maybe DD doesn't find a way to trade for a top level closer and we can use lower prospects to get some fill in arm for the BP.

 

I think next year it would be logical to have a 3 man platoon of 2nd and 1st of Holt, Chavis, and Hernandez. I still like Lin but I have to admit I'm not sure he'll make it anymore to the bigs.

[Bellhorn04]

If I'm the Mets I will ask Workman for Diaz.

 

That wouldn't make any sense because the Mets and everyone else knows our need is bullpen help.

[a700hitter]

Thor and Diaz for ERod?

[oldtimer]

These trades tend to go to the last minute as the sellers try to work for the most return while the buys try not to give too much. I expect we won't hear much until late tomorrow.

[a700hitter]

Thor, Diaz and Nimmo for Beni and Darwinzon

[Maxbialystock]

Thor and Diaz for ERod?

 

Are you insane? To date, believe it or not, ERod has been our best starter. That's right. Better than Price or Sale. Sale has big time control problems to go with a slower fastball, which is why the Yankees feasted on him Sunday night. Price has pretty good control, but not much of a repertoire--fast ball, cut fast ball, and changeup.

 

Diaz, meanwhile, does have those 23 saves, but his ERA this year has ballooned to 4.95 vs. 1.96 last year, and his WAR is -.1.

[notin]

Thor and Diaz for ERod?

 

 

BVW has made some pretty unpredictable trades in his brief tenure as Mets GM, but that would be his worst. Bear in mind only 7 months ago he took on Robinson Cano’s contract (along with giving up two Top 100 prospects) to get Diaz. He can’t sell low on him this quick and expect to keep his job...

[notin]

Thor, Diaz and Nimmo for Beni and Darwinzon

 

Again, I think that gets BVW fired.

 

I don’t think the Sox have the assets to get Thor alone, never mind including Diaz and Nikon, both of whom also have significant value themselves due to their years of control remaining...

[Fan_since_Boggs]

Bradley Jr. and Dalbec for Diaz and D.Smith. And since I'm such a generous guy, I'm willing to throw in pitching prospect Denyi Reyes. Get it done, Dave.

[notin]

Are you insane? To date, believe it or not, ERod has been our best starter. That's right. Better than Price or Sale. Sale has big time control problems to go with a slower fastball, which is why the Yankees feasted on him Sunday night. Price has pretty good control, but not much of a repertoire--fast ball, cut fast ball, and changeup.

 

Diaz, meanwhile, does have those 23 saves, but his ERA this year has ballooned to 4.95 vs. 1.96 last year, and his WAR is -.1.

 

You think that’s a bad deal for Boston?

[Slasher9]

Some talking heads stating that the Sox are now looking elsewhere for a lower level alternative to Diaz.

 

guess they dont want to part with Beni or JBj.

[Slasher9]

BVW has made some pretty unpredictable trades in his brief tenure as Mets GM, but that would be his worst. Bear in mind only 7 months ago he took on Robinson Cano’s contract (along with giving up two Top 100 prospects) to get Diaz. He can’t sell low on him this quick and expect to keep his job...

 

the chick in the booth for ESPN also works for the Mets FO. i'd say f*** her but thunder will soapbox for days....

[notin]

Bradley Jr. and Dalbec for Diaz and D.Smith. And since I'm such a generous guy, I'm willing to throw in pitching prospect Denyi Reyes. Get it done, Dave.

 

I think you’re massively undervaluing Diaz based on this year. Bear in mind he hasn’t even reached arbitration yet.

 

3+ years of Diaz plus 5+ years of Smith for 1+ years of Bradley and a 24yo .230 AA hitter and a 22yo unranked AA pitcher just doesn’t work.

 

The Sox aren’t getting Diaz. Even the Mets’ interest in Benintendi has been discredited...

[Slasher9]

Are you insane? To date, believe it or not, ERod has been our best starter. That's right. Better than Price or Sale. Sale has big time control problems to go with a slower fastball, which is why the Yankees feasted on him Sunday night. Price has pretty good control, but not much of a repertoire--fast ball, cut fast ball, and changeup.

 

Diaz, meanwhile, does have those 23 saves, but his ERA this year has ballooned to 4.95 vs. 1.96 last year, and his WAR is -.1.

 

fullstop.

you wouldnt trade erod for thor straightup?

[a700hitter]

Are you insane? To date, believe it or not, ERod has been our best starter. That's right. Better than Price or Sale. Sale has big time control problems to go with a slower fastball, which is why the Yankees feasted on him Sunday night. Price has pretty good control, but not much of a repertoire--fast ball, cut fast ball, and changeup.

 

Diaz, meanwhile, does have those 23 saves, but his ERA this year has ballooned to 4.95 vs. 1.96 last year, and his WAR is -.1.

Selling high on ERod? I like the Benintendi option better.

[harmony]

Thor, Diaz and Nimmo for Beni and Darwinzon

This trade simulator gives that trade proposal $152.5 million in surplus value on one side and $63.7 million in surplus value on the other side:

 

https://www.baseballtradevalues.com/trade-simulator/

 

Guess which side gets what.

[jung]

guess they dont want to part with Beni or JBj.

 

I think the Sox might part with a current everyday player. As much as I like JBJ's defense and his hitting when he is hot for all of a couple weeks at a time, I might be willing to part with JBJ. Sheds salary and we by God know his ceiling with specificity.

[harmony]

Bradley Jr. and Dalbec for Diaz and D.Smith. And since I'm such a generous guy, I'm willing to throw in pitching prospect Denyi Reyes. Get it done, Dave.

This trade simulator gives that trade proposal $55.6 million in surplus value to the Red Sox and $29.2 million in surplus value to the Mets:

 

https://www.baseballtradevalues.com/trade-simulator/

[notin]

Selling high on ERod? I like the Benintendi option better.

 

You wouldn’t trade ERod just for Thor?