2019 Trade Deadline Thread

[jacksonianmarch]

Jackson my favorite Yankee fan your team is neither great or has proven s*** yet .

 

They’re the best team in baseball after 100 games. That’s pretty great.

[Swiharts Ghost]

They’re the best team in baseball after 100 games. That’s pretty great.

 

Jackson your team hasn't won s*** so let's calm the enthusiasm ok ?

[Swiharts Ghost]

It's Time to get A freaking Closer and fire that gray over his skis Bullpen catcher Levangie what a s*** pitching coach

[Fan_since_Boggs]

Jackson your team hasn't won s*** so let's calm the enthusiasm ok ?

 

Not only have the Yankees not won s***, but they have pretty much outspent every team this decade and have no championship to show for it. That pathetic. But Brian Cashman is a great GM . . . .

 

Yes the same Brian Cashman who built the biggest failure of all time: the 2004 Yankees.

 

On the topic of the trade deadline, the Twins are for real and could make some noise in the playoffs but they need to add some things at the deadline, a starter and reliever would be nice. Looking at the Twins farm system, I suspect Lewis is off limits, but the Twins have some prospects beyond him that could attract some quality pieces.

 

edit: Bumgarner would be a great acquisition for the Twins and the Twins have supposedly looked into him. The Twins have had problems getting it done in the playoffs and Bumgarner has a history of dominance in the playoffs. Hence, the Twins and Bumgarner would be a great fit. HOWEVER, I don't think the Giants are trading Bumgarner. They are still in the wild card hunt and have been playing much better baseball. The Giants might also be thinking about making Bumgarner a Giants player for life.

Edited July 24, 2019 by Fan_since_Boggs

[Noles_1335]

After the shitshow performance out of our pen tonight... if we don’t make a move before the actual closers that are out there get picked up, we are DOOMED! Make the move before some other GM with half a brain outsmarts you again DD! Hell at this point is Paplebon or Koji or Foulke able to chuck a ball over the plate!

[Swiharts Ghost]

After the shitshow performance out of our pen tonight... if we don’t make a move before the actual closers that are out there get picked up, we are DOOMED! Make the move before some other GM with half a brain outsmarts you again DD! Hell at this point is Paplebon or Koji or Foulke able to chuck a ball over the plate!

 

I'd take a 50 year old Mariano or Kojii than anyone we have closing .s*** I'd take Dlowe over Matt Barnes now .

[Fan_since_Boggs]

With so many teams in the wild card hunt, it sounds like only a couple of really good starters and relievers will be available at the trade deadline. In other words, this will be a seller's market.

 

“The Tigers and Toronto are in the driver seat,’’ a talent evaluator plugged into the pitching market said. The Tigers have Matt Boyd and the Blue Jays are taking calls on Marcus Stroman

https://nypost.com/2019/07/23/what-yankees-cashman-is-dealing-with-in-pitching-madness/

 

Pitchers like Boyd and Stroman will cost a small fortune with teams like the Yankees, Twins, Astros, Phillies, etc., bidding on them. I haven't been keeping up the Brewers, but they might be looking for an SP too.

[Fan_since_Boggs]

A pretty good summary of why the Yankees probably won't win anything this year:

 

After Minnesota shredded its staff this week, New York’s starters rank a middling to worse 15th in ERA, 16th in fWAR and 21st in FIP. Nobody from the group has produced truly great numbers, either. Masahiro Tanaka, James Paxton and German have posted low-four ERAs with aligning peripherals, while Sabathia and Happ have performed like back-end options at best.

 

One would be remiss to ignore that the Yankees have gone without their ace – Luis Severino – all season because of shoulder and lat injuries. While the Yankees are hopeful the star righty will return in mid to late August, which could provide an enormous boost, it’s unknown whether Severino will be able to go full bore at any point this year. Cashman suggested two weeks ago that Severino could max out at 75 pitches or even work as a reliever. Severino’s ongoing absence has thrown a massive wrench in the Yankees’ plans this year, and it could have a big hand in the club landing an outside starter.

--From MLBtraderumors.com

 

It is now very clear that Cashman made a huge mistake when he failed to sign P.Corbin, who is having an excellent year with the Nationals--3.4 WAR, with a 135 ERA+. While Corbin has a 3.4 WAR, James Paxton has a 0.7 WAR. And JC Happ has a 0.8 WAR. Typical Cashman.

 

I was trying to think of a deal that would work between the Mets and Yankees with the Yankees getting Syndergaard but the two teams just don't match up that well--the Yankees farm system has thinned out. Sure, the Mets would love D.Garcia but the Mets don't have a spot for C.Frazier (another corner outfielder DH type). Andujar isn't a third baseman, he is a first base DH type and the Mets already have two talented hitters at 1b. Florial is hyped prospect who is falling fast, a 21 year old who isn't hitting in Single A. To make a fair offer, the Yankees would need to include Torres and you know the Yankees don't want to do that. The Twins, Astros, and Padres are in a better position to obtain Syndergaard--they have better farm systems. Moreover, the Wilpons probably don't want to trade Syndergaard to the Yankees without getting a huge return.

 

It sounds like the Red Sox have some interest in Bumgarner. If the price is right, they could trade for Bumgarner and move Cashner to the bullpen. It might be easier to trade for a rental than a top flight reliever. Then again, Bumgarner is a special case and I would think the Giants will want a huge return for him if they even make him available. Perhaps the Red Sox could target Wheeler instead and then move Cashner to the bullpen.

Edited July 25, 2019 by Fan_since_Boggs

[jacksonianmarch]

I’m gonna ride you for weeks if the Yanks take the title.

[Noles_1335]

I’m gonna ride you for weeks if the Yanks take the title.

 

Hate to say it, but, if the Yanks get some SP help and get fully healthy you might want to get that saddle ready!

[OH FOY]

Only 6 games left before the Deadline. On the 31st the Sox play Tampa at 7:00, so Deadline will be over. Huge next 6 games.

[Fan_since_Boggs]

I’m gonna ride you for weeks if the Yanks take the title.

 

Only way the Yankees win a title is if they acquire a top flight SP. I'm not sure if that will happen. Cashman has a poor track record when it comes to acquiring starting pitchers.

 

I just realized that Deivi Garcia is 5'9". How many aces in MLB today are 5'9"? Serious question.

Edited July 25, 2019 by Fan_since_Boggs

[notin]

Only way the Yankees win a title is if they acquire a top flight SP. I'm not sure if that will happen. Cashman has a poor track record when it comes to acquiring starting pitchers.

 

I just realized that Deivi Garcia is 5'9". How many aces in MLB today are 5'9"? Serious question.

 

Tim Lincecum, Johnny Cueto, Tom Gordon, Jason Frasor, and Teddy Higuera were all power pitchers about that height.

[Fan_since_Boggs]

Tim Lincecum, Johnny Cueto, Tom Gordon, Jason Frasor, and Teddy Higuera were all power pitchers about that height.

 

Wow, Marcus Stroman is even smaller at 5'7". I have Lincecum and Cueto at 5'11".

[notin]

Wow, Marcus Stroman is even smaller at 5'7". I have Lincecum and Cueto at 5'11".

 

Heights and weights for athletes are rarely listed consistently anywhere. I’ve seen Lincecum, for example, listed at 5’9, 5’10 and now at 5’11. Not sure what his true height is, but he’s probably not exactly any of those heights.

 

Bottom line - these guys are all small...

[moonslav59]

Only way the Yankees win a title is if they acquire a top flight SP. I'm not sure if that will happen. Cashman has a poor track record when it comes to acquiring starting pitchers.

 

I just realized that Deivi Garcia is 5'9". How many aces in MLB today are 5'9"? Serious question.

 

The Yanks will not win it all, even if they get Scherzer.

 

At best, they lose to the Dodgers in the WS. At best.

[Bellhorn04]

The Yanks will not win it all, even if they get Scherzer.

 

At best, they lose to the Dodgers in the WS. At best.

 

I wish I could agree, but I think they'll have a pretty good shot at it.

[OH FOY]

Yanks get to play them in late Aug. ought to be a good series.

[moonslav59]

I wish I could agree, but I think they'll have a pretty good shot at it.

 

No MLB team will ever have better than 50-50 odds to win it all as the playoffs start.

 

Bet "the field."

 

Certainly, the Yanks look very strong right now, and if the pick up a good SP'er, like I'm sure they will, they might look even stronger, but I'm still waiting for them to have a rough patch before the season is over. Then, maybe some will see them as being less invincible.

[OH FOY]

Like that Poster Jackson said. If they get Severino and Bentaces back and to form that makes them real dangerous. Almost like a Trade.

[notin]

Like that Poster Jackson said. If they get Severino and Bentaces back and to form that makes them real dangerous. Almost like a Trade.

 

 

Unless they come back and suck

[jacksonianmarch]

Unless they come back and suck

 

The Yanks aren't gonna put them back on the mound to suck. I guarantee you the Yanks medical team is gonna be on them entirely and if they cannot perform to their level, they'll shut them down (Sevy) or leave them in low leverage (Betances). Severino will not be pushed. We just made a big investment in him and we aren't gonna f*** that up by pushing for this year. Betances, we might ride into the ground since he is a FA after this season.

[Swiharts Ghost]

We need Syndergaard go get him Boston

[Fan_since_Boggs]

The Yanks will not win it all, even if they get Scherzer.

 

At best, they lose to the Dodgers in the WS. At best.

 

And Scherzer won't be available now that the Nationals are back in the race. For me, the Nats are the dark horse team to go all the way this year--they have 3 stud pitchers in Scherzer, Strasburg, and Corbin. I can't think of another team that has a better 1-2-3 in their rotation. Each one would be the ace of the Yankees starting rotation.

 

If Brian Cashman was a better GM, he would have signed Corbin.

[Fan_since_Boggs]

Like that Poster Jackson said. If they get Severino and Bentaces back and to form that makes them real dangerous. Almost like a Trade.

 

Maybe Severino can throw underhand, like they do in softball.

[jacksonianmarch]

Severino is throwing. They haven’t moved him to a mound. They’re handling him with kid gloves. Betances is in the same boat. Betances will be back sooner just due to his role. Severino has a real shot at being at least a 4-5IP pitcher by September. That’ll be enough with this pen. Maybe he can get to 100 pitches by PO time.

 

Sevy has traditionally been nails for the beginning of seasons then fades late. Maybe with this injury, he is nails at the right time?

 

Tanaka’s history is dominant in the postseason. Look it up, he’s been terrific. Paxton has some of the best stuff in the game and had been rolling until his last start. Same with German. I have no faith in CC or Happ in a PO setting. We need a starter or having them start on an extremely short leash would be a necessity.

[OH FOY]

Just glad Ellsbury is being paid 21 million next 2 years. Imagine if they had that Cap Space for a Starter.

[OH FOY]

Here's teams salary. Look at IR money by the Yanks, compared to other teams.

 

https://www.spotrac.com/mlb/payroll/

[moonslav59]

Just glad Ellsbury is being paid 21 million next 2 years. Imagine if they had that Cap Space for a Starter.

 

That's a similar reason why I had hoped the Yanks got Harper or Machado- or both.

[OH FOY]

This is Luxury Tax Space. Yanks got space to spend.

https://www.spotrac.com/mlb/payroll/

 

Edit: at top of Page.

Edited July 26, 2019 by OH FOY!