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Posted

Trade Duran, Godbout, Gonzalez, Valera and Delzine for CJ Abrams.

Trade Yoshida with $15M cash for nothing

Trade Story with $24M for nothing

  • C: Adley Rutschman ($8.50M)
  • 1B: Willson Contreras ($18.00M)
  • 2B: Curtis Mead ($1.00M)
  • 3B: Caleb Durbin ($1.00M)
  • SS: CJ Abrams ($10.20M)
  • LF: Roman Anthony ($4.00M)
  • CF: Ceddanne Rafaela ($3.50M)
  • RF: Wilyer Abreu ($5.80M)
  • DH: Teruaki Sato ($16.00M)
  • 4th OF: Jahmai Jones ($0.90M)
  • Utility: Romy Gonzalez ($1.80M)
  • Utility: Nick Sogard ($1.75M)
  • Backup C: Connor Wong ($1.80M)
  • POS: Yoshida ($15.00M)
  • SP1: Garrett Crochet ($28.00M)
  • SP2: Ranger Suarez ($15.00M)
  • SP3: Brayan Bello ($8.50M)
  • SP4: Payton Tolle ($1.00M)
  • SP5: Jake Bennett ($1.00M)
  • RP: Aroldis Chapman ($13.00M)
  • RP: Greg Weissert ($1.75M)
  • RP: Justin Slaten ($1.20M)
  • RP: Johan Oviedo ($1.55M)
  • RP: Erik Miller ($1.50M)
  • RP: Tayron Guerrero ($1.00M)
  • RP: Tanner Houck ($4.00M)
  • RP: Garrett Whitlock ($8.25M)
  • POS: Story ($24.00M)
Payroll is 23.46% under budget
Posted
7 hours ago, NHNative said:

How do you trade someone for nothing? What am I missing?

I do like the roster.

Okay- we get a dollar back or some DSL scrub.

Posted
13 hours ago, moonslav59 said:

Trade Duran, Godbout, Gonzalez, Valera and Delzine for CJ Abrams.

Trade Yoshida with $15M cash for nothing

Trade Story with $24M for nothing

  • C: Adley Rutschman ($8.50M)
  • 1B: Willson Contreras ($18.00M)
  • 2B: Curtis Mead ($1.00M)
  • 3B: Caleb Durbin ($1.00M)
  • SS: CJ Abrams ($10.20M)
  • LF: Roman Anthony ($4.00M)
  • CF: Ceddanne Rafaela ($3.50M)
  • RF: Wilyer Abreu ($5.80M)
  • DH: Teruaki Sato ($16.00M)
  • 4th OF: Jahmai Jones ($0.90M)
  • Utility: Romy Gonzalez ($1.80M)
  • Utility: Nick Sogard ($1.75M)
  • Backup C: Connor Wong ($1.80M)
  • POS: Yoshida ($15.00M)
  • SP1: Garrett Crochet ($28.00M)
  • SP2: Ranger Suarez ($15.00M)
  • SP3: Brayan Bello ($8.50M)
  • SP4: Payton Tolle ($1.00M)
  • SP5: Jake Bennett ($1.00M)
  • RP: Aroldis Chapman ($13.00M)
  • RP: Greg Weissert ($1.75M)
  • RP: Justin Slaten ($1.20M)
  • RP: Johan Oviedo ($1.55M)
  • RP: Erik Miller ($1.50M)
  • RP: Tayron Guerrero ($1.00M)
  • RP: Tanner Houck ($4.00M)
  • RP: Garrett Whitlock ($8.25M)
  • POS: Story ($24.00M)

Payroll is 23.46% under budget

That’s a ridiculous price to pay for CJ Abram’s. 
don’t need him if it costs us that. Delzine and Valera? I’d rather trade them for a RH starter or a different bat. Abram’s bat will be ok in Fenway if his breakout year was for real, but not for that price. Two RH pitching names I’d be interested in are David Bednar for the back of the pen and Casey Mize for the 5th spot. 

personally, I keep both young RHP prospects. We don’t have any of them with as much promise. I’d let them develop for another year and if you trade them they’ll be worth more. Valera is returning from TJS and Delzine looks like he could be a special pitcher. 
I agree to trade story and Yoshida but I’d add a prospect so I don’t have to send that much cash, but the idea is right on. Eat cash, add prospects to get them off this roster. we have redundant positions in the minors. We should look to add them to any deal involving those two.

 

Posted
4 hours ago, southpaw777 said:

That’s a ridiculous price to pay for CJ Abram’s. 
don’t need him if it costs us that. Delzine and Valera? I’d rather trade them for a RH starter or a different bat. Abram’s bat will be ok in Fenway if his breakout year was for real, but not for that price. Two RH pitching names I’d be interested in are David Bednar for the back of the pen and Casey Mize for the 5th spot. 

personally, I keep both young RHP prospects. We don’t have any of them with as much promise. I’d let them develop for another year and if you trade them they’ll be worth more. Valera is returning from TJS and Delzine looks like he could be a special pitcher. 
I agree to trade story and Yoshida but I’d add a prospect so I don’t have to send that much cash, but the idea is right on. Eat cash, add prospects to get them off this roster. we have redundant positions in the minors. We should look to add them to any deal involving those two.

 

Mize can’t stay healthy.  Talented but fragile.  Bednar is overrated and replaceable..

Posted
47 minutes ago, notin said:

Mize can’t stay healthy.  Talented but fragile.  Bednar is overrated and replaceable..

Really? Didn’t know that. We have a bunch of those already. Need healthy guys.

Posted
11 minutes ago, southpaw777 said:

Really? Didn’t know that. We have a bunch of those already. Need healthy guys.

Mize gets at least one injury per year and has Ranger Suarez durability.

With you on the RHSP and bullpen.  I like Rhode Island native Michael King from this FA class, as well as LHRP Adrian Morejon.  Morejon does figure to be popular, however.

My dark horse would be Brady Singer converted to a RP.  Probably against his will…

 

Posted
5 hours ago, southpaw777 said:


I agree to trade story and Yoshida but I’d add a prospect so I don’t have to send that much cash, but the idea is right on. Eat cash, add prospects to get them off this roster. we have redundant positions in the minors. We should look to add them to any deal involving those two.

 

Also it makes sense to hold Story and use him to buffer Arias.  Story will either produce or maim himself trying, so he’s the ideal option.

Just DFA Yoshida.  f*** trying to save some nickels.  If you cannot pay your free agents at the end of their deals, you have no business signing them…

Posted
19 hours ago, moonslav59 said:

Trade Duran, Godbout, Gonzalez, Valera and Delzine for CJ Abrams.

Trade Yoshida with $15M cash for nothing

Trade Story with $24M for nothing

  • C: Adley Rutschman ($8.50M)
  • 1B: Willson Contreras ($18.00M)
  • 2B: Curtis Mead ($1.00M)
  • 3B: Caleb Durbin ($1.00M)
  • SS: CJ Abrams ($10.20M)
  • LF: Roman Anthony ($4.00M)
  • CF: Ceddanne Rafaela ($3.50M)
  • RF: Wilyer Abreu ($5.80M)
  • DH: Teruaki Sato ($16.00M)
  • 4th OF: Jahmai Jones ($0.90M)
  • Utility: Romy Gonzalez ($1.80M)
  • Utility: Nick Sogard ($1.75M)
  • Backup C: Connor Wong ($1.80M)
  • POS: Yoshida ($15.00M)
  • SP1: Garrett Crochet ($28.00M)
  • SP2: Ranger Suarez ($15.00M)
  • SP3: Brayan Bello ($8.50M)
  • SP4: Payton Tolle ($1.00M)
  • SP5: Jake Bennett ($1.00M)
  • RP: Aroldis Chapman ($13.00M)
  • RP: Greg Weissert ($1.75M)
  • RP: Justin Slaten ($1.20M)
  • RP: Johan Oviedo ($1.55M)
  • RP: Erik Miller ($1.50M)
  • RP: Tayron Guerrero ($1.00M)
  • RP: Tanner Houck ($4.00M)
  • RP: Garrett Whitlock ($8.25M)
  • POS: Story ($24.00M)

Payroll is 23.46% under budget

can we get rid of Weissert?

Posted

I don’t want C.J. Abram’s anywhere near the Short Stop position on this team.  
 

also, 23% under budget and no upgrade behind Adley? I mean I didn’t upgrade the position either but I spent the money

Posted
On 11/9/2026 at 5:30 AM, Hugh2 said:

I don’t want C.J. Abram’s anywhere near the Short Stop position on this team.  
 

also, 23% under budget and no upgrade behind Adley? I mean I didn’t upgrade the position either but I spent the money

I don’t mind CJ Abrams being near shortstop.  Specifically at 2b.  I’d be ok with that.

Posted
On 11/8/2026 at 10:02 AM, Randy Red Sox said:

can we get rid of Weissert?

Weissert is like the 7th best RP in an 8 man bullpen.  No team has a 7th reliever as good as Weissert…

Posted
3 minutes ago, notin said:

I don’t mind CJ Abrams being near shortstop.  Specifically at 2b.  I’d be ok with that.

I wouldn't want to give up too much for him.

Posted
3 minutes ago, notin said:

Weissert is like the 7th best RP in an 8 man bullpen.  No team has a 7th reliever as good as Weissert…

He's fine. He's not the reason the Sox struggled in the playoffs. Keep guys like him around while they are cheap.

Posted
10 hours ago, mvp 78 said:

I wouldn't want to give up too much for him.

I agree.  I find guys like this to be more valuable in fantasy BB than real BB.

Posted
On 11/8/2026 at 10:06 AM, notin said:

Also it makes sense to hold Story and use him to buffer Arias.  Story will either produce or maim himself trying, so he’s the ideal option.

Just DFA Yoshida.  f*** trying to save some nickels.  If you cannot pay your free agents at the end of their deals, you have no business signing them…

I’d just let Yoshida go but JH is always looking to pinch a penny nowadays…and F story, he’s useless…

Posted
On 11/8/2026 at 10:02 AM, notin said:

Mize gets at least one injury per year and has Ranger Suarez durability.

With you on the RHSP and bullpen.  I like Rhode Island native Michael King from this FA class, as well as LHRP Adrian Morejon.  Morejon does figure to be popular, however.

My dark horse would be Brady Singer converted to a RP.  Probably against his will…

 

King as a backend guy? Short term, 2 years? How much is he slated to get in FA? If he stays healthy and the price and years are good he’d be a decent backend guy.

Posted
On 11/8/2026 at 3:46 AM, southpaw777 said:

That’s a ridiculous price to pay for CJ Abram’s. 

 

The Nats would say no to my offer.

It's an underpay.

Posted

I don't trade Justin Gonzales. He's still a teenager!

The punch-and-moody Red Sox owe it to themselves and their fans to see what they really have in their #2 overall prospect. 

Gonzales is a 6-foot 5-inch righty batter with power potential and above-average contact -- in over 1,000 plate appearances so far, his K-rate is 16.7%, which is excellent for a big man.

This next year will be huge for 19-year-old Justin's development. He's currently projected to mash the majors in 2028, when he'll be 21! Then he can buy me a beer.

Posted
3 hours ago, southpaw777 said:

King as a backend guy? Short term, 2 years? How much is he slated to get in FA? If he stays healthy and the price and years are good he’d be a decent backend guy.

King is 31 years old and coming off a good year so he is not signing a two year contract. At minimum it will probably be 4 to 5 years in length. I like King as well, but not sure I would invest in 4 or 5 years for him. 

Posted
3 hours ago, 5GoldGlovesOF,75 said:

I don't trade Justin Gonzales. He's still a teenager!

The punch-and-moody Red Sox owe it to themselves and their fans to see what they really have in their #2 overall prospect. 

Gonzales is a 6-foot 5-inch righty batter with power potential and above-average contact -- in over 1,000 plate appearances so far, his K-rate is 16.7%, which is excellent for a big man.

This next year will be huge for 19-year-old Justin's development. He's currently projected to mash the majors in 2028, when he'll be 21! Then he can buy me a beer.

It's not about giving up on Justin: it's about adding a proven bat with power.

33 HRs

Over 30 SBs in 4 straight seasons.

Okay, Justin is 19, but this guy is just 26 and entering prime.

Juston could be the next KC. True, he could be the next JD, but I'll take the know guy who just turned 26.

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Posted
On 11/7/2026 at 3:35 PM, moonslav59 said:

Trade Duran, Godbout, Gonzalez, Valera and Delzine for CJ Abrams.

Trade Yoshida with $15M cash for nothing

Trade Story with $24M for nothing

  • C: Adley Rutschman ($8.50M)
  • 1B: Willson Contreras ($18.00M)
  • 2B: Curtis Mead ($1.00M)
  • 3B: Caleb Durbin ($1.00M)
  • SS: CJ Abrams ($10.20M)
  • LF: Roman Anthony ($4.00M)
  • CF: Ceddanne Rafaela ($3.50M)
  • RF: Wilyer Abreu ($5.80M)
  • DH: Teruaki Sato ($16.00M)
  • 4th OF: Jahmai Jones ($0.90M)
  • Utility: Romy Gonzalez ($1.80M)
  • Utility: Nick Sogard ($1.75M)
  • Backup C: Connor Wong ($1.80M)
  • POS: Yoshida ($15.00M)
  • SP1: Garrett Crochet ($28.00M)
  • SP2: Ranger Suarez ($15.00M)
  • SP3: Brayan Bello ($8.50M)
  • SP4: Payton Tolle ($1.00M)
  • SP5: Jake Bennett ($1.00M)
  • RP: Aroldis Chapman ($13.00M)
  • RP: Greg Weissert ($1.75M)
  • RP: Justin Slaten ($1.20M)
  • RP: Johan Oviedo ($1.55M)
  • RP: Erik Miller ($1.50M)
  • RP: Tayron Guerrero ($1.00M)
  • RP: Tanner Houck ($4.00M)
  • RP: Garrett Whitlock ($8.25M)
  • POS: Story ($24.00M)

Payroll is 23.46% under budget

Thanks for your input, John. Have you been watching Moneyball again?

Posted
48 minutes ago, Nick said:

Thanks for your input, John. Have you been watching Moneyball again?

I know JH is a tight wad and therefore I'm looking for ways to add a few $million to our winter spending budget.

Sign Sato.

Trade for DLC or Abrams.

I'd love to add more, but I fear this is probably a pipe dream, as is.

Billy Bean would have loved a winter budget like this.

Posted
On 11/11/2026 at 8:56 AM, notin said:

Weissert is like the 7th best RP in an 8 man bullpen.  No team has a 7th reliever as good as Weissert…

you might be right about that but he gets too many high leverage roles for my liking

Posted
2 minutes ago, Randy Red Sox said:

is Arias not our SS of the future?

I'd love to say yes, but the future is now, and I have zero faith in Arias in 2027.

Remember, my plan was to do the best we can to get Abrams AND also keep our "SS of the future," and since Abrams is not very good at SS defense, we can easily shift him to 2B, 3B or DH, if and when the "future" is now.

I'm not undervaluing Gonzales and the others I suggested. In fact, I'm valuing them highly, and IMO, the Nats would likely say no and ask for even more.

Posted
1 minute ago, moonslav59 said:

I'd love to say yes, but the future is now, and I have zero faith in Arias in 2027.

Remember, my plan was to do the best we can to get Abrams AND also keep our "SS of the future," and since Abrams is not very good at SS defense, we can easily shift him to 2B, 3B or DH, if and when the "future" is now.

I'm not undervaluing Gonzales and the others I suggested. In fact, I'm valuing them highly, and IMO, the Nats would likely say no and ask for even more.

we don't need Abrams and remember we have Story for 2027 and he aint going nowhere

Posted
3 minutes ago, Randy Red Sox said:

we don't need Abrams and remember we have Story for 2027 and he aint going nowhere

Counting on Story is counting backwards.

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