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Embarrassed by the Yankees yet again 6-1.

The only good news is Ranger Suarez didn't have a bad outing.

But this Red Sox offense is still simply putrid.

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Posted
3 hours ago, Tedballgame said:

I'd like the name of the Boston area scout who let Cam Schlitter slip through the Sox fingers when he was in their backyard.

Why?

Schlitter wasn’t even the best pitcher on his team at Northeastern, which isn’t a school that pumps out athletes.

Plus after being drafted in the 7th round, Schlitter made exactly ZERO Top 100 prospect lists.  Never ranked by BA, MLB.com or Baseball Prospectus.

He came out of nowhere, sort of like Bello did in Boston…

Posted
5 hours ago, SPLENDIDSPLINTER said:

Raffy's becoming a complete ballplayer much to Fred's dislike.

He did strike out in his first AB in spring training.  That was enough for Fred to write him off.

Posted
4 hours ago, SPLENDIDSPLINTER said:

You would think the first thing the 1st base coach would tell the runner is how many outs there are.

Or else Ceddanne thought there was a play at 2nd.

Posted
4 hours ago, SPLENDIDSPLINTER said:

A very fine demonstration of pitching by Suarez. Up and down, change of speed and great command. That defines what pitching is all about.

Was talking with some Yankee fans on the subway about that.  Maddux and Key both came up.  It's beautiful to watch.

Posted
4 hours ago, illinoisredsox said:

So who would you have used with Whitlock out?  Like it or not, Slaten is the next best guy right now after Chapman.

RS fans judge players on an at bat by at bat basis.

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Posted
14 minutes ago, JoeBrady said:

RS fans judge players on an at bat by at bat basis.

And file away bad games forever.

“Slaten sucks!  First there was that game in Arizona last September! And now THIS!!”

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1-Tracy probably should've had Mayer sacrificing in the 3rd.  That's early, but it already looked like a pitchers' duel.  And probably more importantly, Mayer has a .570 OPS.

2-Similar situation in the 7th when Gasper got on to open up the inning.  Having Durbin sacrifice should've been automatic.  No doubt in my mind.

3-Was La Sorsa the best available left to face Jazz?  Gamboa is an unknown, and Coulombe isn't exactly lighting it up.  But La Sorsa is lucky to even have a job in the pros.  Not to mention the fact that Jazz (SSS) has one HR v La Sorsa in 4 career ABs.  That was a bad spot to test out La Sorsa.

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Posted
9 hours ago, notin said:

And file away bad games forever.

“Slaten sucks!  First there was that game in Arizona last September! And now THIS!!”

This is the second time in his last 4 appearances that Slaten has given up 4 runs in less than an inning.🤭

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Posted
13 hours ago, Duran Is The Man said:

Mayer has been the most long-awaited, over-rated, over-hyped dud i've seen in a long time.

He's 23 years old with not even 300 career MLB at bats.  

They can't all be Mookie Betts

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Posted
11 hours ago, notin said:

Why?

Schlitter wasn’t even the best pitcher on his team at Northeastern, which isn’t a school that pumps out athletes.

Plus after being drafted in the 7th round, Schlitter made exactly ZERO Top 100 prospect lists.  Never ranked by BA, MLB.com or Baseball Prospectus.

He came out of nowhere, sort of like Bello did in Boston…

He slipped through a lot of fingers drafted in the 7th round.  Heck, the Yankees wouldn't have waited that long if they knew what he was.

No one has a crystal ball.  You don't know how every 17 year old is going to mentally and physically mature over the next several years. 

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Posted
1 hour ago, Old Red said:

This is the second time in his last 4 appearances that Slaten has given up 4 runs in less than an inning.🤭

And on one hard hit ball both times?

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Posted
14 hours ago, Duran Is The Man said:

Mayer has been the most long-awaited, over-rated, over-hyped dud i've seen in a long time.

Overhyped? He's been injured every season. The comparison all along has been Brandon Crawford. Seems like he's on track for that TBH. 

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Posted
11 hours ago, notin said:

And file away bad games forever.

“Slaten sucks!  First there was that game in Arizona last September! And now THIS!!”

Slaten had another big blowup vs MN on 5/22. Just something to keep in mind post IL stint.

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Posted
11 hours ago, JoeBrady said:

1-Tracy probably should've had Mayer sacrificing in the 3rd.  That's early, but it already looked like a pitchers' duel.  And probably more importantly, Mayer has a .570 OPS.

2-Similar situation in the 7th when Gasper got on to open up the inning.  Having Durbin sacrifice should've been automatic.  No doubt in my mind.

3-Was La Sorsa the best available left to face Jazz?  Gamboa is an unknown, and Coulombe isn't exactly lighting it up.  But La Sorsa is lucky to even have a job in the pros.  Not to mention the fact that Jazz (SSS) has one HR v La Sorsa in 4 career ABs.  That was a bad spot to test out La Sorsa.

Mayer is a FB hitter. Schlitter is a FB pitcher. Let Mayer swing away at that spot or send him to AAA. 

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Posted
1 hour ago, Hugh2 said:

He's 23 years old with not even 300 career MLB at bats.  

They can't all be Mookie Betts

He was over hyped before he was even drafted. Now he’s just a platooning SS who gets pinched hit for.

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Posted
17 minutes ago, Old Red said:

He was over hyped before he was even drafted. Now he’s just a platooning SS who gets pinched hit for.

He's 23 years old with not even 300 at bats. 

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Posted
5 minutes ago, Hugh2 said:

He's 23 years old with not even 300 at bats. 

Some people thought he had Roman's bat, I guess? Must not have been paying attention to what the prospect guys were saying???

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Posted
4 minutes ago, Hugh2 said:

He's 23 years old with not even 300 at bats. 

Pretty much everyone said the Red Sox needed a 2B/3B in the offseason and Mayer would handle which ever one they didn’t get. I didn’t hear a lot of, but he’s only a 23 year old with only 300 MLB at bats.  I did question his bat though.

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Posted
5 minutes ago, Old Red said:

Pretty much everyone said the Red Sox needed a 2B/3B in the offseason and Mayer would handle which ever one they didn’t get. I didn’t hear a lot of, but he’s only a 23 year old with only 300 MLB at bats.  I did question his bat though.

Now that's an entirely different argumen. 

You also heard a lot of people, including me, saying that the Sox needed offense and they added very little and lost even more.  If the Sox signed a big bat like Schwarber or Alonso and had other people hitting in the lineup no one would care about Mayer, heck maybe he'd even be doing better without so much pressure on him. 

Expecting your rookies to carry the team is ridiculous, even if they end up blossoming into All Stars. 

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Posted
5 minutes ago, Old Red said:

Pretty much everyone said the Red Sox needed a 2B/3B in the offseason and Mayer would handle which ever one they didn’t get. I didn’t hear a lot of, but he’s only a 23 year old with only 300 MLB at bats.  I did question his bat though.

What we said was "that's the Red Sox's plan" not that it's what they should do. Nobody said don't get Parades AND Durbin. Red Sox were openly saying that he was going to be on the roster. They weren't saying that he was competing for a spot, which they should have been. Also, I was always under the assumption that they would try not to go over the 2nd CBT threshold. They are right around it now and will try to get underneath it. 

What's the point in saying "they should go out and have a 400M payroll" when you know the confines Henry puts on the team? I would have rather them spent the Suarez or Gray money on another bat. If they didn't deal Gray, they'd still have another depth starter. Maybe it prevents them from trading for Durbin and they have even more depth pieces. 

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Posted
3 minutes ago, Hugh2 said:

Now that's an entirely different argumen. 

You also heard a lot of people, including me, saying that the Sox needed offense and they added very little and lost even more.  If the Sox signed a big bat like Schwarber or Alonso and had other people hitting in the lineup no one would care about Mayer, heck maybe he'd even be doing better without so much pressure on him. 

Expecting your rookies to carry the team is ridiculous, even if they end up blossoming into All Stars. 

I agree, but there was so much hype, and expectations put on Mayer, and Anthony just getting here, and especially on Anthony this year, so I agree that shouldn’t have happened.

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Posted
4 minutes ago, Old Red said:

I agree, but there was so much hype, and expectations put on Mayer, and Anthony just getting here, and especially on Anthony this year, so I agree that shouldn’t have happened.

How much hype actually came from the Sox organization? 

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Posted
17 minutes ago, Hugh2 said:

Now that's an entirely different argumen. 

You also heard a lot of people, including me, saying that the Sox needed offense and they added very little and lost even more.  If the Sox signed a big bat like Schwarber or Alonso and had other people hitting in the lineup no one would care about Mayer, heck maybe he'd even be doing better without so much pressure on him. 

Expecting your rookies to carry the team is ridiculous, even if they end up blossoming into All Stars. 

Well, at some point they did also expect Casas to come back…

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Posted
13 minutes ago, notin said:

How much hype actually came from the Sox organization? 

He was a top 20 prospect (BA) for a long, long time, but I don't think some people were reading the scouting report. 

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Posted
27 minutes ago, notin said:

How much hype actually came from the Sox organization? 

He was ranked #1 pre draft by just about everybody.  

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Posted
30 minutes ago, Hugh2 said:

He was ranked #1 pre draft by just about everybody.  

So… not the Sox overhyping him? 

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