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Playing through injuries has always been a tricky issue, and it's tough for a player.

You're damned if you tell and damned if you don't (and suck.)

Posted
11 minutes ago, moonslav59 said:

Playing through injuries has always been a tricky issue, and it's tough for a player.

You're damned if you tell and damned if you don't (and suck.)

The thing is, there is no indication that Story has ever been a JD Drew and balk at playing with the slightest discomfort.  This an example of that and it certainly hurt the team.  I recall in 2024 when he got hurt in the first 10 games and was supposed to be out the whole season but busted his butt rehabbing and was able to join the team in September in an unsuccessful playoff drive.

What's the old saying, you can play hurt but you can't play injured; a player needs to know the difference.

Posted
9 minutes ago, illinoisredsox said:

The thing is, there is no indication that Story has ever been a JD Drew and balk at playing with the slightest discomfort.  This an example of that and it certainly hurt the team.  I recall in 2024 when he got hurt in the first 10 games and was supposed to be out the whole season but busted his butt rehabbing and was able to join the team in September in an unsuccessful playoff drive.

What's the old saying, you can play hurt but you can't play injured; a player needs to know the difference.

Well said. I don't think anyone can say Story doesn't bust his butt to play everyday and do his best.

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1 hour ago, illinoisredsox said:

The thing is, there is no indication that Story has ever been a JD Drew and balk at playing with the slightest discomfort.  This an example of that and it certainly hurt the team.  I recall in 2024 when he got hurt in the first 10 games and was supposed to be out the whole season but busted his butt rehabbing and was able to join the team in September in an unsuccessful playoff drive.

What's the old saying, you can play hurt but you can't play injured; a player needs to know the difference.

Is there?

As fans we don’t know the difference and as players they can’t compare.  
 

The reality is, fans just want players to perform.  Schilling gets immortalized for pitching with his bloody sock, because it’s manly to not let injuries stop you..  But Anthony elects to sit out games with a wrist injury that most definitely will impact his hitting, and he’s labeled soft and injury-prone.  Sale was considered injury-prone and frail until he was traded away and started pitching well.  Then people acted like he’d never been hurt ever.

If a player can’t play, he really shouldn’t try.  And that doesn’t make him soft.  He does have a teammate that is also among the best 780 players in the world that is ready to step in.  Let him do so and the ESPNitwits can stop using Wally Pipp as a verb…

Posted
18 hours ago, vegasbob said:

Uncanny how some players find a way to fulfill their destiny

If the groin was bothering him since late ST, why didn't he put his hand up much earlier rather than hurt the team

How do you know he didn't put his hand up?  Lots of guys, maybe even most guys, get nicked up occasionally.  Most likely, the trainers and/or manager, and/or GM, ask if they can play.  If the player says yes, on we go.

Posted
17 hours ago, Larry Cook said:

Do our trainers have a clue???

Why do you assume that trainers can just fix guys, or prevent injuries?  Players get injured every year.

Posted
3 hours ago, vegasbob said:

Ghe question is, did Trevor hurt the team by doing so ?

The answer is:

1-Sometimes players play thru injuries and do okay.  This isn't magic where we know exactly what will happen with an injury.

2-We lack any elegant solutions.  It's not like we were going to be much better off having Monasterio at SS.

3-If Story sat down, half the fans would've accused him of sitting down with a boo-boo.

Posted
4 hours ago, JoeBrady said:

The answer is:

1-Sometimes players play thru injuries and do okay.  This isn't magic where we know exactly what will happen with an injury.

2-We lack any elegant solutions.  It's not like we were going to be much better off having Monasterio at SS.

3-If Story sat down, half the fans would've accused him of sitting down with a boo-boo.

Bam, bam and BAM!

Correctomundo!

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On 5/16/2026 at 3:02 PM, moonslav59 said:

I'd be okay with Monasterio at SS and leaving Mayer at 2B, so he can focus more on getting bat going.

(If Red answers, he will only answer in questions and deflections, so you will be right on that one.)

Now that Story is out, it's time to move the better defender to SS. Sorry Monasterio, but that's not you.

Posted

I'm not giving Story a cookie for playing through an injury when he was one of the worst hitters in baseball and his defense was pretty bad (don't care what the metrics said). 

Posted
30 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

Now that Story is out, it's time to move the better defender to SS. Sorry Monasterio, but that's not you.

I agree, but it’s not going to help Mayer hit any better. Major league glove, but minor league bat. I thought when they spent $6M on IKF he was going to be the fill in at SS.

Posted
3 minutes ago, Old Red said:

I agree, but it’s not going to help Mayer hit any better. Major league glove, but minor league bat. I thought when they spent $6M on IKF he was going to be the fill in at SS.

Cool, he's still going to play everyday because the Sox don't have better options to play the IF. Might as well play the best defender at his natural position. I guess you're the smarty pants who'd rather have IKF start everyday though just because of the contract, not because he's earned it with his 505 OPS and mediocre defense. 

Posted
25 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

Cool, he's still going to play everyday because the Sox don't have better options to play the IF. Might as well play the best defender at his natural position. I guess you're the smarty pants who'd rather have IKF start everyday though just because of the contract, not because he's earned it with his 505 OPS and mediocre defense. 

Where did I say I wanted IKF to play everyday? You’re analyzing like someone else we know. I just said I thought he would be the fill in with the key word being fill in. This sounds like more than a fill in situation, but Mayer’s is still a platoon player who can’t hit. Mayer is 8-49 in May with 1 HR, and 2 RBI, and also 14 K’s. I know you guys are all about OPS, which isn’t the end all, be all, and certainly doesn’t tell all IMO, but Mayer’s 599 certainly isn’t anything to brag about  either.

Posted
3 minutes ago, Old Red said:

Where did I say I wanted IKF to play everyday? You’re analyzing like someone else we know. I just said I thought he would be the fill in with the key word being fin in. This sounds like more than a fill in situation, but Mayer’s is still a platoon player who can’t hit.

What's the point in saying "I thought IKF would be the fill in?" He's been horrible. Sure, at one point he could have been an option, but we all have eyes and now we'd all rather him be benched or DFA'd. IKF is useless. The best option for this current group is to just move the better defender to SS. When/if Story comes back, he can either go to 2b or Siberia.

Posted
1 hour ago, mvp 78 said:

Now that Story is out, it's time to move the better defender to SS. Sorry Monasterio, but that's not you.

It's time to see how Mayer looks at SS.

Calling Arias up now would be too extreme, in my book.

Posted
4 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

What's the point in saying "I thought IKF would be the fill in?" He's been horrible. Sure, at one point he could have been an option, but we all have eyes and now we'd all rather him be benched or DFA'd. IKF is useless. The best option for this current group is to just move the better defender to SS. When/if Story comes back, he can either go to 2b or Siberia.

IKF could get some time at 2B, with Mayer at SS FT. It might not be long before Durbin is benched. The best cherry-picked sample size I can find is .536 over his last 24 games. That's better than IKF's season numbers and he's really good on D, but still...

Posted
7 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

What's the point in saying "I thought IKF would be the fill in?" He's been horrible. Sure, at one point he could have been an option, but we all have eyes and now we'd all rather him be benched or DFA'd. IKF is useless. The best option for this current group is to just move the better defender to SS. When/if Story comes back, he can either go to 2b or Siberia.

I wasn’t really talking about IKF over Mayer’s, but the Mon Man. IKF is a better SS than he is.

Posted
2 minutes ago, Old Red said:

I wasn’t really talking about IKF over Mayer’s, but the Mon Man. IKF is a better SS than he is.

You didn't mention Monasterio once in your post so it's hard to read that into your post. 🫠

Posted
4 minutes ago, moonslav59 said:

IKF could get some time at 2B, with Mayer at SS FT. It might not be long before Durbin is benched. The best cherry-picked sample size I can find is .536 over his last 24 games. That's better than IKF's season numbers and he's really good on D, but still...

DUBin is 6-40 in May with 3 RBI. That tells the story with the bat.

Posted
2 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

You didn't mention Monasterio once in your post so it's hard to read that into your post. 🫠

I should have known by now I have to be more specific. My bad, but I did mention fill in, and not long term, which this could be.

Posted
5 minutes ago, moonslav59 said:

IKF could get some time at 2B, with Mayer at SS FT. It might not be long before Durbin is benched. The best cherry-picked sample size I can find is .536 over his last 24 games. That's better than IKF's season numbers and he's really good on D, but still...

IKF/Monasterio platoon since IKF can't hit LFP? IDK? Just give it to Monasterio fulltime? I'd probably just let Monasterio play every day. 

Posted
1 minute ago, Old Red said:

I should have known by now I have to be more specific. My bad, but I did mention fill in, and not long term, which this could be.

If he has surgery, it's 6-10 weeks. He's maybe not back until the trade deadline? 

Same old Story.

Posted
7 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

IKF/Monasterio platoon since IKF can't hit LFP? IDK? Just give it to Monasterio fulltime? I'd probably just let Monasterio play every day. 

Agreed. Keep IKF as Monasterio's late inning D replacement, assuming we are in close games.

Posted
29 minutes ago, moonslav59 said:

It's time to see how Mayer looks at SS.

Calling Arias up now would be too extreme, in my book.

Arias got pulled from the line-up in the middle of Saturday's game for a non-injury related issue that his new skipper called "Manager's decision." 

May want to let the 20-year old ferment for awhile.

Posted
4 hours ago, mvp 78 said:

IKF/Monasterio platoon since IKF can't hit LFP? IDK? Just give it to Monasterio fulltime? I'd probably just let Monasterio play every day. 

I would trade for Paredes, but if they stay pat, I too would let Monasterio start at SS and keep Mayer at 2B.

Posted
6 minutes ago, JoeBrady said:

I would trade for Paredes, but if they stay pat, I too would let Monasterio start at SS and keep Mayer at 2B.

Who you trading for Paredes? Seems like there are less options now than before the season started. If Story is out long term, and the Red Sox see Mayer as the SS of the future then it’s time to take the training wheels off, and put him there.

Posted
44 minutes ago, Old Red said:

Who you trading for Paredes? Seems like there are less options now than before the season started. If Story is out long term, and the Red Sox see Mayer as the SS of the future then it’s time to take the training wheels off, and put him there.

I'm not sure.  Just from my accounting ledger, Paredes is say 1/2 further along by the time we trade for him.  Only getting him for 1.5 years, plus his performance has been mediocre (.716 OPS/0.6 bWAR), I would think would lower his value.  And if Houston thinks they are out of it, they will be more inclined to trade him.

Someone outside of our top-4 prospects would be okay by me.

Posted
On 5/16/2026 at 1:45 PM, moonslav59 said:

So, Story joins Crochet, Coulombe and Anthony on the short IL. (Crawford my move to the 60 Day at any moment.)

60 Day: Houck, Casas, Sandoval, Romy & Oviedo

Updates:

Houck- will be lucky to return in SEPT.

Casas and Oviedo- will see doctors soon to gauge their progress and determine where they are at. (LOL)

Romy- Has been playing catch in recent days and hopes to start swinging on May 15. 

Sandoval- Threw a side session for first time in several weeks on May 15

Crawford- Has been playing catch out to 90 feet and will continue to increase volume of throws and distance as he goes. 

Anthony- Hopes to grip, swing a bat soon.

Coulombe- Started a Minor League rehab assignment for Double-A Portland, last night

Crochet- Took an important step on May 13, throwing a 20-pitch bullpen session, marking his first trip to the mound since he went on the injured list.

 

did you not say Sandal would be in the rotation?? Chalk him up to another of the Sox low risk-NO reward P signings that flopped. 

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