Red Sox front office did something right. They got rid of Devers.

[Bellhorn04]

3 hours ago, Old Red said:

When you can measure effort, and mindset, because of atmosphere let me know. Don’t believe in data, or doesn’t care about data? BIG difference. As I’ve said 100’s of times the only stats I care about are actual stats that show up on the scoreboard in real time. That’s what works for me. You guys can go nuts with all the other stuff all you want.

OK, but you're also saying that you think Devers would be putting up better stats with the Red Sox, right?  So in this case you're kind of arguing against his actual numbers. 

[Old Red]

41 minutes ago, Bellhorn04 said:

OK, but you're also saying that you think Devers would be putting up better stats with the Red Sox, right?  So in this case you're kind of arguing against his actual numbers. 

I’m just saying that you can’t just look at what Raffy has done since he left Boston, and just assume that would translate to the exact same numbers if he had stayed in Boston, because of the things I mentioned like mindset, effort, and atmosphere. I’m not arguing against any numbers he has put up in SF.

[notin]

1 hour ago, Old Red said:

I’m just saying that you can’t just look at what Raffy has done since he left Boston, and just assume that would translate to the exact same numbers if he had stayed in Boston, because of the things I mentioned like mindset, effort, and atmosphere. I’m not arguing against any numbers he has put up in SF.

I think we can assume it’s similar. It’s a tougher park for a lefty to homer in, but his effort and mindset are likely the same regardless of where he plays.

Now what we do know factually is he simply isn’t hitting the ball as well as he did last year, a year where he spent the majority of his games in San Francisco.  His exit velocity, hard hit rate, barrel percentage, are all down.  His whiff rate is up and his walk rate is way down.  Hes also striking out slightly more, but that’s not necessarily fair to compare, because the rules are different in 2026.

These changes are not a result of atmosphere.   But I have to pass on the walk/strikeout stuff since I don’t know how he’s been impacted by challenges…

[JoeBrady]

4 hours ago, 5GoldGlovesOF,75 said:

so I won't get stuck on the train tracks like that lady who blindly followed her GPS commands.

If the deal is to use GPS, or not use GPS, I am 100% all-in for GPS.