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1 hour ago, Hugh2 said:

Ok but to be fair he was a good hitter while here.....he was never a gold glover. 

He was and he should be a good hitter.  Just not a great hitter.  But to suggest that this is all related to SF is a step too far.  I always focus on road stats because that's about as level a playing field as you can get.  To suggest that Bregman, Bichette, Marte, Devers, etc., would be great, if only they played at Fenway, just ignores reality.

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7 minutes ago, JoeBrady said:

He was and he should be a good hitter.  Just not a great hitter.  But to suggest that this is all related to SF is a step too far.  I always focus on road stats because that's about as level a playing field as you can get.  To suggest that Bregman, Bichette, Marte, Devers, etc., would be great, if only they played at Fenway, just ignores reality.

We've already seen Devers be great at Fenway and know SF is a terrible hitters park. 

Marte is already in a hitters park. Bichette wasn't a great fit for Fenway because of his swing. Wrigley isn't a great place for RHB and Breggie is still pulling the ball like he did at Fenway (much higher away OPS). I think his numbers pick up eventually. He may not go on a tear like he did early in '25 though. 

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3 hours ago, mvp 78 said:

We've already seen Devers be great at Fenway and know SF is a terrible hitters park. 

But all his numbers are down.  His career road OPS is .825 and this year it is .704.  K/W is much worse.  Even his numbers at Oracle are down, by almost the same amount that his road numbers are down (104).  I don't see how someone can reasonably say that Devers has hit worse everywhere in the world, but if he got back to Fenway, he'd be great.

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15 minutes ago, JoeBrady said:

But all his numbers are down.  His career road OPS is .825 and this year it is .704.  K/W is much worse.  Even his numbers at Oracle are down, by almost the same amount that his road numbers are down (104).  I don't see how someone can reasonably say that Devers has hit worse everywhere in the world, but if he got back to Fenway, he'd be great.

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