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Posted
5 minutes ago, Hugh2 said:

IDK, his body language screams annoyed and he's walking away with his helmet up saying things into it.  I thought I read somewhere that he slammed his helmet when he got into the dugout too. 

I don't think it was a language issue, Devers also understands English well, much better than he speaks it.  I think this is just his behavior. 

He got back to the dugout and avoided a butt tap from a coach/teammate too. Devers knows when a ship is sinking and doesn't feel compelled to be the good soldier. He was right about Breslow. He's probably right about whatever is going on in SF. He just wants to show up and hit dingers. Let him do that. 

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Anybody who saw the Devers incident, when the Giants sent in a PR'er for him at 1B has to be thankful he's gone.

Very sad.

Posted
7 hours ago, mvp 78 said:

He got back to the dugout and avoided a butt tap from a coach/teammate too. Devers knows when a ship is sinking and doesn't feel compelled to be the good soldier. He was right about Breslow. He's probably right about whatever is going on in SF. He just wants to show up and hit dingers. Let him do that. 

Ah the old mindset, and atmosphere, which leads to effort.

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Posted
11 hours ago, mvp 78 said:

He got back to the dugout and avoided a butt tap from a coach/teammate too. Devers knows when a ship is sinking and doesn't feel compelled to be the good soldier. He was right about Breslow. He's probably right about whatever is going on in SF. He just wants to show up and hit dingers. Let him do that. 

Seems like he wants to manage his own game again.  What a shocker…

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Posted
15 hours ago, moonslav59 said:

Anybody who saw the Devers incident, when the Giants sent in a PR'er for him at 1B has to be thankful he's gone.

Very sad.

Anyone who read what Vitello and Devers said about this non-incident should regret he's not on the Sox.

Very very sad/

Posted
54 minutes ago, jad said:

Anyone who read what Vitello and Devers said about this non-incident should regret he's not on the Sox.

Very very sad/

Oh, they call it a non incident, so it must me.

I'm sure Devers calls this incident a non one, too.

The guy turned from a fun-loving guy to a cancerous plague, seemingly overnight. Does it matter that he had good reasons or not?

Just because other cancers needed to go, too, doesn't mean you don't remove all the cancer.

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Posted
35 minutes ago, moonslav59 said:

Oh, they call it a non incident, so it must me.

I'm sure Devers calls this incident a non one, too.

The guy turned from a fun-loving guy to a cancerous plague, seemingly overnight. Does it matter that he had good reasons or not?

Just because other cancers needed to go, too, doesn't mean you don't remove all the cancer.

Well, to me it matters.  Particularly when 'cancerous plague' seems to apply more to the organization that went 'full-Tito' on him last season.  (But I doubt either of us will change our views of him.  I just hope he gets back to raking as he was, since he's so amusing to watch.)

Posted
1 minute ago, jad said:

Well, to me it matters.  Particularly when 'cancerous plague' seems to apply more to the organization that went 'full-Tito' on him last season.  (But I doubt either of us will change our views of him.  I just hope he gets back to raking as he was, since he's so amusing to watch.)

The Sox messed up badly with Devers, but that does not take him off the hook. His antic with the SFG are showing it's not just the Sox.

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Posted
1 hour ago, moonslav59 said:

The Sox messed up badly with Devers, but that does not take him off the hook. His antic with the SFG are showing it's not just the Sox.

He just needs to be in an organization that's not toxic apparently. 

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Posted
13 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

He just needs to be in an organization that's not toxic apparently. 

Like one with no $30mill players that refuse to do what management asks them?

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Posted
8 minutes ago, notin said:

Like one with no $30mill players that refuse to do what management asks them?

You believe the Boston Red Sox isn't a toxic organization? 

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Posted
5 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

You believe the Boston Red Sox isn't a toxic organization? 

From what I saw, Devers brought his share of venom.

Blame isn’t always one-sided.

And what’s the non-Devers evidence San Francisco is toxic?

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Posted
9 minutes ago, notin said:

From what I saw, Devers brought his share of venom.

Blame isn’t always one-sided.

And what’s the non-Devers evidence San Francisco is toxic?

Go buy a paper for once in your life. I'm not here to be your google machine. Sheesh. 

Posted
41 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

He just needs to be in an organization that's not toxic apparently. 

That won't pinch run for him?

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Posted
6 minutes ago, moonslav59 said:

That won't pinch run for him?

An organization that has a manager that hasn't been out of his depth since day one and can communicate. An organization that has a CBO that isn't brand new and learning on the job and can communicate. 

Posted
18 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

An organization that has a manager that hasn't been out of his depth since day one and can communicate. An organization that has a CBO that isn't brand new and learning on the job and can communicate. 

So that's why Devers squaked when they sent in the PR?

LMAO.

Posted
54 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

Go buy a paper for once in your life. I'm not here to be your google machine. Sheesh. 

I would bet all my money that sometime, at least once in his life, he has bought a paper.  Whether that be notebook, a newspaper, a magazine, a rolling paper.

Posted
24 minutes ago, moonslav59 said:

So that's why Devers squaked when they sent in the PR?

LMAO.

it could have contributed.  when your boss is a bad communicating dingus you are less likely to be a happy little soldier.

Posted
17 minutes ago, drewski6 said:

it could have contributed.  when your boss is a bad communicating dingus you are less likely to be a happy little soldier.

Wasn't it like day two, he refused to do a work out at 1B with SF?

The lengths we are going through to take all blame away from Devers is surprising, to me.

Of course, he's not 100% to blame for everything, but over the past 13-14 months, too much has happened to think this is all or mostly dingus management's fault.

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On 6/23/2026 at 8:52 AM, Hugh2 said:

IDK, his body language screams annoyed and he's walking away with his helmet up saying things into it.  I thought I read somewhere that he slammed his helmet when he got into the dugout too. 

I don't think it was a language issue, Devers also understands English well, much better than he speaks it.  I think this is just his behavior. 

It's entirely possible.  It just feels like the incident is getting more play in the media because of the issues he had in Boston.

Posted
On 6/15/2026 at 9:14 AM, Hugh2 said:

This year the road/home splits are almost identical.  He's just not hitting as well as he historically has everywhere right now. 

I might be the only one in here that thinks we might want to swing a trade for a reduced-salary Devers.  But the idea that Devers hasn't declined is just a fantasy.  Virtually every stat has declined. 

Posted
35 minutes ago, moonslav59 said:

The lengths we are going through to take all blame away from Devers is surprising, to me.

This is typical for the RSN.  Things cannot be grey.  Players can only be stars or bums, and not just decent regulars.  Now Devers is either a model for all mankind to emulate, or he is a sociopath.

Posted
1 minute ago, JoeBrady said:

This is typical for the RSN.  Things cannot be grey.  Players can only be stars or bums, and not just decent regulars.  Now Devers is either a model for all mankind to emulate, or he is a sociopath.

I've been saying this for years. I live in the grey and once lived in Gray, Maine!

Posted
14 minutes ago, moonslav59 said:

I've been saying this for years. I live in the grey and once lived in Gray, Maine!

was it rainy?

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Posted
35 minutes ago, JoeBrady said:

I might be the only one in here that thinks we might want to swing a trade for a reduced-salary Devers.  But the idea that Devers hasn't declined is just a fantasy.  Virtually every stat has declined. 

The thing about Devers is if he IS declining, why even take him back at a reduced salary? It's not like he has other tools to carry him if the bat falls off a bit E.G. defense, speed on the bases, leadership etc. etc. 

I would have been fine with them keeping him, but at this point I believe the ship has sailed. 

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Posted
1 hour ago, moonslav59 said:

Wasn't it like day two, he refused to do a work out at 1B with SF?

No. 

Dum dum Willl Clark was upset that Raffy didn't work out with him one day, but they talked it over and Clark apologized for being a blowhard about it (as he is about everything). Raffy didn't refuse to work out. You are misremembering. The only thing that happened back then was that he said he wanted to slowly transition into the position because he didn't want to be embarrassed in an MLB game since he had never played there before. 

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Posted
52 minutes ago, moonslav59 said:

I've been saying this for years. I live in the grey and once lived in Gray, Maine!

You're the one making him out to be a sociopath! 

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