A Realistic Look at the 2026 Red Sox: Part I

[Old Red]

7 minutes ago, JoeBrady said:

Runs and total bases are not 'old' stats.  Even HRs still count, though not as relevant as OBP.  The correlation between OBP and runs scored is very high.

Runs, HR, and RBI shows up on the scoreboard in real time, and counts towards a W-L. OBP doesn’t always lead to a run as the Red Sox prove time, and time again.

[Old Red]

21 minutes ago, JoeBrady said:

6 years, but Bogaerts could (and did) opt out after three years.  Still very lucrative for us.  I'd like to see the RS engage in more contracts where we grant an opt-out, but retain an option to buy out the players' option.  So if Bogaerts declines the final $60M/3, we have the option of replacing that with say, a $100M/3 contract.

Disagree on opt outs. Lucrative for the Red Sox on Bogey? Bogey’s three years would have been up, and no Story would have been signed who is a big problem with almost 2 more years left on his contract. JD held the REd Sox hostage for a few years on will he, or won’t he opt out.

[JoeBrady]

7 minutes ago, Old Red said:

Runs, HR, and RBI shows up on the scoreboard in real time, and counts towards a W-L. OBP doesn’t always lead to a run as the Red Sox prove time, and time again.

Higher OBP leads to higher scoring,  Take a look at the ten highest OBP teams from almost any year, and they will mostly the highest scoring teams.  More HRs will lead to more scoring, but there are always team with a lot of HRs that are not atop the scoring board.  I will provide some analysis later,

[Duran Is The Man]

3 hours ago, notin said:

The longer they wait, the pricier they get.  Sure they may never recoup an ROI on Campbell, but his AAV is utility infielder money.  Not exactly risky…

is it average money for a AAA outfielder? because that's exactly what he is.

[Old Red]

18 minutes ago, JoeBrady said:

Higher OBP leads to higher scoring,  Take a look at the ten highest OBP teams from almost any year, and they will mostly the highest scoring teams.  More HRs will lead to more scoring, but there are always team with a lot of HRs that are not atop the scoring board.  I will provide some analysis later,

Why do the Red Sox have the present record they have more than anything else? 27th in runs scored, 28 in HR, and 29th in total bases per game. How has OBP, and higher scoring worked for the Red Sox this year? Which tells a better story that correlates to their record. Higher OBP doesn’t always lead to higher scoring. The Red Sox have over 7 runners left on base this year per game. An higher OBP would probably just leave more runners on base as bad as the Red Sox are at it.

[Duran Is The Man]

2 hours ago, moonslav59 said:

Let's look at some players, now:

Early

Tolle

It IS "completely unnecessary" to extend these guys, but waiting risks the price gettin so high JH won't approve an extension or re-sign later...

That's the reasoning behind it- right or wrong.

we just see it different. i'm not against paying them; i just want to see them do something worth paying for rather than paying them for nothing.