Article: Breaking: Roman Anthony Called Up By Red Sox, Will Make MLB Debut Vs Rays

[moonslav59]

13 hours ago, notin said:

Right.  The whole thing went down smoothly and thankfully John Henry didn’t have to get involved…

...and you don't need an injury to call up Mayer or Anthony. You have an opening at DH.

Better roster construction with Anthony in LF and Duran at DH. 

Then, you could play KC in CF and bring up Mayer without benching or trading Duran or Abreu.

Okay, it's a narrative some of us like, but that doesn't mean it's meritless.

Sure, keeping Devers at 1B had and has merit. Once they told him he'd play 1B & only 1B, I was and still am against playing him at 1B in 2025, but I cans till see the pluses of trying to get him there sooner, rather than later (if ever.)

[cp176]

Not bringing Mayer up early after the spring that he had puzzled me.  It certainly should come as no surprise that he looks and plays like he should have been there since day one.  He and Anthony both should be in the lineup whether there are lefties or righties for anyone on the mound.  Constantly playing the analytics game makes me sick.  It should be obvious to anyone that Mayer should be in the lineup and once he gets going Anthony will likely be right there with him.

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

6 hours ago, TedYazPapiMookie said:

You related to Cora?  Erase all the evidence!!! hahaha  What a child you are.  5 Gold Glove OF who doesn't know his baseball history so eliminates his embarrassing comment.  Way to own it!!! hahahahaha  Your love for Cora makes perfect sense now!!!

The evidence wasn't erased that shows the Houston analytics department developed a sign-stealing system before the Astros hired a new bench coach for 2017. Members of their front office admitted it, and were promoted after the uniformed fall guys were suspended by MLB.

[Bellhorn04]

7 hours ago, TedYazPapiMookie said:

You related to Cora?  Erase all the evidence!!! hahaha  What a child you are.  5 Gold Glove OF who doesn't know his baseball history so eliminates his embarrassing comment.  Way to own it!!! hahahahaha  Your love for Cora makes perfect sense now!!!

I don't know if you have any interest in staying here or not, but if you do, you have to eliminate posts like these.  

[Hitch]

On 6/11/2025 at 1:32 PM, notin said:

Yeah they would hate it if he performed so well.  That’s probably why they took so long to promote him…

I would suggest that if you think losing a year of control of the number 1 rated prospect in the game didn't factor into their thinking around when he'd come up, you're being very naive. 

[mvp 78]

3 hours ago, cp176 said:

Not bringing Mayer up early after the spring that he had puzzled me.  It certainly should come as no surprise that he looks and plays like he should have been there since day one.  He and Anthony both should be in the lineup whether there are lefties or righties for anyone on the mound.  Constantly playing the analytics game makes me sick.  It should be obvious to anyone that Mayer should be in the lineup and once he gets going Anthony will likely be right there with him.

He still struggles with LHP and offspeed stuff. Just because he hit two dingers last night, doesn't mean he's figured that stuff out. It'll only be harder to learn that at the MLB level. 

[mvp 78]

15 hours ago, TedYazPapiMookie said:

Can you remember back to all the years we struggled without a lead-off man after Mookie was tossed in the garbage?  Well, Duran is the ONLY lead-off man currently on this make-shift team.  Players have slumps and recover.  Duran is an all-star and as we watch his average climb I think he still has a chance in 2025 to make it again since there is still a month left.

All this talk about the best player other than Bregman being traded, moved or not playing daily is so off the mark it's hard to believe a Red Sox fan is coming up with this crap.

Players better than Duran this season: 

Breggie

Raffy

Narvaez

Rafaela

Abreu (close, but he's been a MUCH better defender so I give it to him)

Players that could end up better than Duran if they continue their play:

Toro

Mayer

[drewski6]

23 hours ago, mvp 78 said:

At worst, you hold onto Duran through the season and have to rotate 4 guys through the lineup for the year. Maybe an additional trade partner shows up at the deadline? 

5, aint nobody benching Ref.

[drewski6]

22 hours ago, notin said:

I actually am not a fan of that plan. I know you proposed platooning/rotating Duran and Rafaela in CF, but Duran is really not much of an OF.  Hes the guy I wanted grabbing a 1b mitt for this reason.

I can’t imagine SD will be the only team interested.  Duran is coming off an incredible season, and really didnt hit that much early on last year.  His current OPS is roughly where he ended last May.  If he has a similar hot streak in the near future, combined with his salary and arb status/years of control, he could be worth a lot in a trade…

If his season June on this year mirrors who he was June on last year, hes an MVP caliber player (or close to it)

[TedYazPapiMookie]

4 hours ago, Bellhorn04 said:

I don't know if you have any interest in staying here or not, but if you do, you have to eliminate posts like these.  

I find it ironic that you give moderator advice to me after being a jerk on so many of your comments to me.  Shouldn't you be setting an example of the tone of the website?

Your warning is noted, and I assume the guideline is that I can't say the truth about Cora's integrity but it's ok to insult others.  Odd rules.  I'll leave the insults to the dozens that have done it so far.

[mvp 78]

6 minutes ago, TedYazPapiMookie said:

I find it ironic that you give moderator advice to me after being a jerk on so many of your comments to me.  Shouldn't you be setting an example of the tone of the website?

Your warning is noted, and I assume the guideline is that I can't say the truth about Cora's integrity but it's ok to insult others.  Odd rules.  I'll leave the insults to the dozens that have done it so far.

You can question Cora's integrity. You can't call another poster a child as you did in your previous post. 

[TedYazPapiMookie]

1 hour ago, mvp 78 said:

Players better than Duran this season: 

Breggie

Raffy

Narvaez

Rafaela

Abreu (close, but he's been a MUCH better defender so I give it to him)

Players that could end up better than Duran if they continue their play:

Toro

Mayer

Put each one in the lead off spot and see if they are better because we did that from Mookie to Duran and NOBODY was close to Duran.  He's entitled to slumps.  We let Devers slump every year and don't pull him out of the 2 hole but the lead-off spot should have a shorter hook?

Break down his numbers and you'll find he's hitting .309 at home and .231 on the road.

He hit .279 in Mar/April, .258 in May and .279 in June so far.  These are the numbers you are criticizing?

Obviously, Devers and Bregma aren't leadoff men, Narvaez is the other good right handed bat so far and is a catcher so not a great candidate for leadoff.  If Cora didn't bat Devers second but instead move him to third it would make sense to bat Rafaela 2nd but not leadoff while he is trying to establish a higher average as his norm.  Abreu can't be a platoon leadoff man.

Duran is just fine.  I think you proved the point quite well.  He is irreplaceable.

[drewski6]

2 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

You can question Cora's integrity. You can't call another poster a child as you did in your previous post. 

Especially the wrong poster. It was Notin who originally said that "Crochet , Dobbins and pray for rain three days in a row" could have been written more poetically (how about crochet, dobbins, and pray for tres days of rain)

5GG just took a shot at making the original line more poetic and got attacked.

[drewski6]

3 minutes ago, TedYazPapiMookie said:

Put each one in the lead off spot and see if they are better because we did that from Mookie to Duran and NOBODY was close to Duran.  He's entitled to slumps.  We let Devers slump every year and don't pull him out of the 2 hole but the lead-off spot should have a shorter hook?

Break down his numbers and you'll find he's hitting .309 at home and .231 on the road.

He hit .279 in Mar/April, .258 in May and .279 in June so far.  These are the numbers you are criticizing?

Obviously, Devers and Bregma aren't leadoff men, Narvaez is the other good right handed bat so far and is a catcher so not a great candidate for leadoff.  If Cora didn't bat Devers second but instead move him to third it would make sense to bat Rafaela 2nd but not leadoff while he is trying to establish a higher average as his norm.  Abreu can't be a platoon leadoff man.

Duran is just fine.  I think you proved the point quite well.  He is irreplaceable.

IM not as anti trading Duran as I was a month ago, but Im still pretty solidly against it.

[jdc69]

3 minutes ago, drewski6 said:

IM not as anti trading Duran as I was a month ago, but Im still pretty solidly against it.

They don't need to do anything with the offense. They have to handle the pitchers better, which they are doing.

[TedYazPapiMookie]

3 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

You can question Cora's integrity. You can't call another poster a child as you did in your previous post. 

So, a person who behaves immaturely cannot be called a child for their childish behavior?  Didn't see that one coming.  Lots of immature insults come my way and I have said that at least twice in responses to childish comments.  I will completely stop since it offends the children. 

There is a major portion of the site that comments on baseball in a way that suggests they are minors.  In my opinion, they don't belong but like most of the other sites like this one, kids find a way in, and they love the anonymity that protects them to say pretty much anything they feel like.

Thanks for the heads up.  The kids on the site do need protecting despite them seeking their 15 minutes of fame at someone else's expense.

 

[mvp 78]

24 minutes ago, TedYazPapiMookie said:

Duran is just fine.  I think you proved the point quite well.  He is irreplaceable.

We have different definitions on what a leadoff hitter can be. That's fine. He's replaceable to me, but not to you.

 

[TedYazPapiMookie]

25 minutes ago, drewski6 said:

IM not as anti trading Duran as I was a month ago, but Im still pretty solidly against it.

He was an all-star and could be again this year with a good second half of June.

[mvp 78]

2 minutes ago, TedYazPapiMookie said:

So, a person who behaves immaturely cannot be called a child for their childish behavior?  Didn't see that one coming.  Lots of immature insults come my way and I have said that at least twice in responses to childish comments.  I will completely stop since it offends the children. 

There is a major portion of the site that comments on baseball in a way that suggests they are minors.  In my opinion, they don't belong but like most of the other sites like this one, kids find a way in, and they love the anonymity that protects them to say pretty much anything they feel like.

Thanks for the heads up.  The kids on the site do need protecting despite them seeking their 15 minutes of fame at someone else's expense.

 

Feel free to find somewhere else that fits you then.

We don't take this place seriously, but we don't resort to personal insults. A lot of us have posted on here together for many years and get along just fine, understanding we each have our own personal quirks. 

[mvp 78]

1 minute ago, TedYazPapiMookie said:

He was an all-star and could be again this year with a good second half of June.

He needs to actually do it first. He was good for the entire month of June last year. Now we're playing a waiting game. 41% k rate last 6 games doesn't give me hope at the moment. 

[TedYazPapiMookie]

Just now, mvp 78 said:

Feel free to find somewhere else that fits you then.

We don't take this place seriously, but we don't resort to personal insults. A lot of us have posted on here together for many years and get along just fine, understanding we each have our own personal quirks. 

There are lots of people on the site.  Ignoring the insulting ones isn't that hard once you see the personalities and baseball knowledge they have.  The obnoxious few won't deter me from finding the real baseball people. 

[mvp 78]

30 minutes ago, drewski6 said:

Especially the wrong poster. It was Notin who originally said that "Crochet , Dobbins and pray for rain three days in a row" could have been written more poetically (how about crochet, dobbins, and pray for tres days of rain)

5GG just took a shot at making the original line more poetic and got attacked.

And we just riff on stupid stuff all the time. It's just what we do. 

Full support to people having FUN on here. It doesn't have to be analytics and complaints about Cora all the time.

[TedYazPapiMookie]

1 minute ago, mvp 78 said:

And we just riff on stupid stuff all the time. It's just what we do. 

Full support to people having FUN on here. It doesn't have to be analytics and complaints about Cora all the time.

If that works for you great.  Dictating what can be said seems like an odd philosophy for a site like this.  Sounds a bit more like your club.  Oh well, like I said, there are plenty of actual knowledgeable baseball fans on the site that I'm sure I'll find my own niche and screen out the fans solely here to have fun busting others chops. 

[mvp 78]

7 minutes ago, TedYazPapiMookie said:

If that works for you great.  Dictating what can be said seems like an odd philosophy for a site like this.  Sounds a bit more like your club.  Oh well, like I said, there are plenty of actual knowledgeable baseball fans on the site that I'm sure I'll find my own niche and screen out the fans solely here to have fun busting others chops. 

We don't tolerate personal attacks because the history of this site shows us that behavior leads to a very toxic environment for the entire site. Good posters leave when the site becomes toxic. We haven't been a very strict site, but saying "don't call each other names" should be easy enough to follow. It shows that you value the other posters as an equal no matter what you are currently disagreeing about. If you believe that this rule is garbage, you need to post somewhere else. 

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

I crack stupid jokes all the time, because I'm well aware of the folly of my spending so much time caring about grown men playing kids' games for a living. 

Posters are free to give opinions, but be prepared if your take is so shallow that you need to resort to name-calling of other posters. That approach never won arguments, even back in grade school.

Using insults can always be avoided. However, any post that paints a picture of something as intolerable as say -- racism -- always deserves to be called out for the stain on society that it is.

[notin]

3 hours ago, Hitch said:

I would suggest that if you think losing a year of control of the number 1 rated prospect in the game didn't factor into their thinking around when he'd come up, you're being very naive. 

First of all, let’s not confuse “losing a year” with “not gaining a year.”  They’re not the same thing at all.

 

I think the Sox are more interested in Anthony succeeding rather than struggling just to prolong his free agency, especially since he’s very likely to reach Super Two status and gain an arb year anyway even if he does figure in ROY balloting.  But more important, if he’s good enough to figure in ROY voting now despite being over 2+ full WAR behind leader Jacob Wilson, he can and should help the Sox win some games.  And that is their primary goal - winning, not managing Roman Anthony’s career.
 

And it’s beyond presumptuous to assume just because he’s the #1 prospect - a credential he shares with Andrew Benintendi and Daisuke Matsuzaka - automatically makes him a candidate for ROY….

[drewski6]

6 minutes ago, notin said:

First of all, let’s not confuse “losing a year” with “not gaining a year.”  They’re not the same thing at all.

 

I think the Sox are more interested in Anthony succeeding rather than struggling just to prolong his free agency, especially since he’s very likely to reach Super Two status and gain an arb year anyway even if he does figure in ROY balloting.  But more important, if he’s good enough to figure in ROY voting now despite being over 2+ full WAR behind leader Jacob Wilson, he can and should help the Sox win some games.  And that is their primary goal - winning, not managing Roman Anthony’s career.
 

And it’s beyond presumptuous to assume just because he’s the #1 prospect - a credential he shares with Andrew Benintendi and Daisuke Matsuzaka - automatically makes him a candidate for ROY….

Bold can be true as well as Hitch's point that service-time gamesmanship was taken into account

And its also more than just hitting FA one year earlier, its also the clock on arb and arb raises.

But ultimately I agree more with you that its at least as much to do with this year than LT because nobody should be throttling back on this year at this point in time (looks at MVP)

[TedYazPapiMookie]

13 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

We don't tolerate personal attacks because the history of this site shows us that behavior leads to a very toxic environment for the entire site. Good posters leave when the site becomes toxic. We haven't been a very strict site, but saying "don't call each other names" should be easy enough to follow. It shows that you value the other posters as an equal no matter what you are currently disagreeing about. If you believe that this rule is garbage, you need to post somewhere else. 

You can rationalize the inappropriate behavior towards me however you want; you are the moderator.  I tried to end this discuss to go talk baseball, but you chose not to.  I now understand your club and that as moderator you have authority to keep the club closed to people unlike you.  Suggesting I go away is a unique marketing strategy.  Maybe you should just point out that you want fans that will fall in line with your way of thinking.  You want young people who think it's funny to insult ideas that are outside your mainstream of comments.  I get it now but believe it or not there are people on the site that ACTUALLY know baseball and if I filter out the fun guys as you call them and focus on the real baseball people using the site filters, I can enjoy this site too.

I just need to find the niche of baseball fans who are mature enough to handle an adult conversation away from all the fun you and your friends are having insulting people.  Simple solution.  I will pursue that.  Thanks for all your help.

 

[notin]

1 hour ago, drewski6 said:

Especially the wrong poster. It was Notin who originally said that "Crochet , Dobbins and pray for rain three days in a row" could have been written more poetically (how about crochet, dobbins, and pray for tres days of rain)

5GG just took a shot at making the original line more poetic and got attacked.

I want the original, but I did keep it going.  I did start the rhyming stuff…

[TedYazPapiMookie]

1 hour ago, drewski6 said:

Especially the wrong poster. It was Notin who originally said that "Crochet , Dobbins and pray for rain three days in a row" could have been written more poetically (how about crochet, dobbins, and pray for tres days of rain)

5GG just took a shot at making the original line more poetic and got attacked.

Since I had Notin on my "ignore list" it must have re-sequenced the names and made it show GG as the originator.  GG, I apologize.  And thanks, drewsik6 for clearing things up.  Now the event makes perfect sense.

 

1 hour ago, drewski6 said:

Especially the wrong poster. It was Notin who originally said that "Crochet , Dobbins and pray for rain three days in a row" could have been written more poetically (how about crochet, dobbins, and pray for tres days of rain)

5GG just took a shot at making the original line more poetic and got attacked.