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Well pitches are being called from somewhere else other than the catcher now. That certainly is a good example. Also, just the fact that they dont allow starting pitchers to stay in the game. Baseball been around for more than 100 years, you think its some great new revelation that no one considered that pitchers dont do well after going through the lineup 3 times? Of course they considered it, but still left them in there anyways because it teaches the pitcher to pitch when he doesnt have his best stuff and to save the bullpen. The mentality is much more about the pitcher being a disposable machine to be used up and replaced. Pay them and use them just enough to keep them, but not enough to give them any power themselves. BTW, I'm not saying theres nothing good in analytics, on the contrary, its evolved the game and won some championships, including '04, I'm just saying they've gone too far. There should be rules in how theyre used, like no in-game advice giving. No pitch calling.
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It also becomes a part of the money making operation that takes power away from the players and managers and gives it, some to the geeks, but mostly, to the owner. The players now become merely the arms and legs of the operation, and the owner and geeks, the brain...if the players want to play and earn the minimal salary that is better than digging ditches that is. This could account for getting rid of veteran players more than just not wanting to spend money.
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Yeah, that's why I have trouble with analytics, because it doesnt seem to take in the human factor. To them theres no difference between batting in June on a team projected to come in last place, or the World Series. Thats like saying theres no difference between walking on a 2x4 that's flat on the ground or 20 stories high. Obviously Anthony is going to feel pressure no matter what, but there's a difference between normal pressure and extra pressure coming from asking a minor leaguer to put a franchise on his back.
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They dont have to ask him. The action itself does the talking. He's their hyped future, they want to win, they get rid of established stars, they put him high up in the batting order... Just putting him high in the batting order says he's supposed to a big reason for their future success. Add to that the grumpy, viscious sports climate in New England, and you have the makings of super high pressure for a guy coming straight from the minors.
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I have a hard time getting invested in the plotting and planning of this team the way the front office is, and I bring this up because you brought up Duran. Obviously Duran is a player that likes to run wild and free, and I think his numbers suffered because theyre asking him to be a home run or nothing kind of player. Last night, David Hamilton bunted with no one on base. It didnt work, but I thought, thats what Duran should be able to do, just causing havoc on the base paths.
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The load of getting rid of established bats and asking him to pick up the slack. Pressure may be subjective and good for those that know how to handle it but why punish a player if he feels it? Why punish a team and a city for it? Why not simply ease newer players into it and let the vets carry the majority of it? Also, what some people think is players handling pressure easily, is really a player that was allowed to fly under the radar until he found his groove. I think Tom Brady and Big Papi are examples of that.
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Im not saying that. The conversation is about the Red Sox getting rid of veterans and asking Anthony to pick up the slack straight out of the minors. Thats dumb and risks ruining his confidence, especially in the grumpy atmosphere of Boston sports media.
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Thats nice. Maybe he can get the golden "almost highest OBP" award. 339 is nothing to brag about if hes supposed to be an all star. That his average and power numbers aren't that high could point to the load he was asked to carry straight from minor leagues. These players aren't robots. Pressure is real.
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I'm talking about putting him farther down the line-up, not back in the minors.
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Yeah, that would've been a lot. I still wanted it, and that was before he got hurt. I actually like Masa.
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If youre talking, "if's," I would have just gotten Alonso instead of Bregman. As for Yoshida, Seattle was prepared to take him and Casas for a SP Casillas, if Im not mistaken. We wouldve had Devers with Alonso's protection, and brought Anthony up slowly. No, let's piss off our most talented player instead, but that's ok, Casas will pick up the slack. Bwaa frickin haa.
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Thats true. I forgot we put all our hopes on Casas. 😆
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I called getting Alonso over Bregman. Instead we got Bregman and in doing so, lied and insulted Devers. Now we have none. The Red Sox are stupid.
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The Red Sox should learn from the Brewers that having an identity, and playing right can make you a successful team, even without power. Then get power on top of that. I would rather be the Brewers than the Yankees. The Yankees have top of the line talent but no scrappers.
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Im talking about the Red Sox, and Im talking about when the starter is still being effective. I didnt say I'm against pulling a starter out early if he starts missing. The Brewers took a starter out in the 2nd inning but he started missing and the manager didnt want to give the Dodgers any hope. Thats understandable. Thats not what the Red Sox are doing though.
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Speaking of paranoid android.
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Well its a combination of replacing a pitcher early who was doing well but maybe just got a hit, or maybe two, then yank. So Im not talking about relievers who have clean bases, nor am I talking about starting pitchers who loaded the bases. Its more like 1 to 1 score in the 5th and they yank the pitcher because hes pitched 95 pitches. Bam, lose the game. That used to be a strategy, have long at bats so a team can get to the bullpen but we say, "dont worry about it, we'll go to the bullpen early." I just had a long discussion with AI, and they confirmed it, we have a good bullpen but when we replace a pitcher doing well, we fall off.
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Ive been saying this all along but its not provable but it seems to me that the bullpen always implodes when they take the starter out too early. To me that says the relief pitcher feels extra pressure because he feels he isn't really needed. If Gray was struggling, then the reliever would feel more needed. I hate analytics.
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I'd say both examples, Grady leaving Pedro in and Tracy taking Gray out, are examples of Red Sox players not being the reasons for a loss, and that's BS.
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The thing with analytics is no one is not using it to see if things work without it. The wisdom used to be to leave pitchers in to teach them how to pitch when you dont have your best stuff. All thinking and responsibility is being taken away from them, being replaced by unknown, unseen geeks. I heard this the other day, teams put their best power hitter leadoff because over the course of the season they will have 25 more at bats. That is so anti-situational its absurd.
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Getting rid of quality players, being sneaky about it, asking prospects to be your saviors, being so dependent on analytics that the players dont know why things are being done.
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Culture is a big reason for the Brewers success and the Red Sox have none. At least not from the top, and that's why all talk of talent acquiring seems like a waste.
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This is more analytical stupidity. What good is a pitcher who can throw faster if hes hurt? Not only is it wrong morally but it takes away from pitchers skill of winning without their best stuff. Brewers are old school. Jacob Misiorowski's stuff was not as good Skubal but came away with win.
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I agree but would say, you need it all. Yes the Brewers have a great bullpen but if the starter wouldn't have started missing so much, he wouldve been kept in there. I realize youre talking about the playoffs as a whole but last night, the manager didnt want to give the Dodgers any hope, and that was alot of the reason. The best pitchers in the league are still the starters. I personally think the big takeaway is the small ball. This should influence teams relying on analytics. I do think that even though Ohtani was struggling, there was fear he could do damage, so dont want to say stars and long ball dont count but contact and fear of contact and base stealing creates pressure too.
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A Realistic View at the 2027 Red Sox Part I
jdc69 replied to moonslav59's topic in Boston Red Sox Talk
Feeling so justified in the early exit. If I feel anymore justified, I may puke.
