Trades?

[Nick]

I think we were expecting Bello to pitch at Luxury Tax Payroll level.

 

In reality he is pitching to his annual W-2 wages.

 

He will get better and keep up with his cash wages.

[notin]

Weird thing about DeJong is he has really struggled against LHP this year, reverse splits are weird.

 

That could easily reverse the rest of the way, or if he's really going to struggle vs. LHP then put Rafaela at SS for a start or two a week against a lefty and load the outfield up with O'Neill and Refsnyder at the corners. Or just sit Ceddanne and play Hamilton there, I'm not in love with Hamilton at SS but he's fine there for a game here and there.

 

Or just play DeJong since his best attribute isn’t his bat…

[moonslav59]

Let’s just concentrate on a decent SPer, and kick the tires on longer controlled ones, first.

 

Worst case: we can get a decent SPer for a couple prospects ranked below 9 or 10th.

[Fan_since_Boggs]

Dream scenario: the Red Sox acquire Eavoldi and V-Lad at the trade deadline. With these two additions, the Red Sox are a championship caliber team.

 

The problem: it would be impossible to acquire Eavoldi and V-Lad without giving up at least one of the top 4 studs in the Red Sox system (I presume): Mayer, Campbell, Teel, Anthony.

 

It would be so awesome to see V-Lad and Devers in the same lineup. It would remind us of the Ortiz, Manny days.

Edited July 9, 2024 by Fan_since_Boggs

[cp176]

At 9 games over .500, this team is performing better at this point than anybody thought that they would. why mess with the mojo? What they will have to deal with sooner or later is that with respect to positional play, there won't be enough positions to use the young talent that they seem to have. They have had this problem before.

[mvp 78]

If anything, they get a midrotation starter and someone to help out in the bullpen. Not sure they make a huge splash as it's really a sellers market these days. Sox aren't close enough to the top to go all in.

[notin]

If anything, they get a midrotation starter and someone to help out in the bullpen. Not sure they make a huge splash as it's really a sellers market these days. Sox aren't close enough to the top to go all in.

 

I'm sticking with Tyler Anderson and Paul DeJong as my choice of realistic targets. I suppose Anderson could push himself out of the Sox range.

 

Put Winckowski back in the bulllpen to help out there...

[mvp 78]

3.99 FIP since coming back from AAA for Winckowski which about matches his career. I think he's an ok pitcher, but he's not really a late inning guy in my book.

[notin]

3.99 FIP since coming back from AAA for Winckowski which about matches his career. I think he's an ok pitcher, but he's not really a late inning guy in my book.

 

 

I like him more as a reliever than as a starter…

[mvp 78]

I like him more as a reliever than as a starter…

 

I agree. I don't like him as a starter at all. I tolerate him as a reliever.

[Hugh2]

Probably another week until the hot stove really lights up, but we are getting close. I expect to start seeing some activity after the all star game.

 

Maybe one day teams can trade draft picks, wouldn't mind seeing the Sox bow out of this one.

 

Hey, we get a draft coming up soon too.

[Bellhorn04]

Probably another week until the hot stove really lights up, but we are getting close. I expect to start seeing some activity after the all star game.

 

Maybe one day teams can trade draft picks, wouldn't mind seeing the Sox bow out of this one.

 

Hey, we get a draft coming up soon too.

 

Bow out of buying this year, you mean?

[Maxbialystock]

At 9 games over .500, this team is performing better at this point than anybody thought that they would. why mess with the mojo? What they will have to deal with sooner or later is that with respect to positional play, there won't be enough positions to use the young talent that they seem to have. They have had this problem before.

 

I hear you, and definitely agree about the mojo. However, it sure looks as though both the players and the manager would love to see another good bat and another good arm added by July 31.

[Nick]

Per Bres no decision yet on addition(s).

 

I'm not optimistic

[Dipre]

I think they'll buy, but not big. A RHH, and a half-decent starter.

[Tedballgame]

How about this plan?

1. Promote Meidroth and make him the everyday SS. This would give the Red Sox lineup a patient hitter, the new greek god of walks.

2. Trade for a right-handed batter who can replace Yoshida at DH. I want Guerrero, but I guess he will be too expensive to acquire.

3. Trade for a Starting Pitcher.

 

An I the only one who thinks that Yoshida is a huge problem? Do we need to be more patient with him?

 

He wasn't a problem in the 9th inning Sunday night:)

[moonslav59]

We may swap a lefty bat for a righty one, but so seriously doubt we trade even a top 9-20 prospect for offense.

 

We need SP help way, way, WAY more than anything else. Our best pitchers are already nearing or passing their career high IP totals, and we are not even half way through July!

 

IMO, we won’t trade a top 8 prospect and may not trade a 9-20, either.

[notin]

I think they'll buy, but not big. A RHH, and a half-decent starter.

 

Of all the starters mentioned so far, I like Anderson and Eflin a lot. Not as wild about Eovaldi, simply due to his reliance on the 4-seam fastball.

 

Kikuchi is another name I’ve seen mentioned…

[Hugh2]

Bow out of buying this year, you mean?

 

No, the draft.

 

Essentially impossible. I should have switched my sentences, and that hypothetical makes more sense

 

Sox should buy

[Bellhorn04]

We may swap a lefty bat for a righty one, but so seriously doubt we trade even a top 9-20 prospect for offense.

 

We need SP help way, way, WAY more than anything else. Our best pitchers are already nearing or passing their career high IP totals, and we are not even half way through July!

 

IMO, we won’t trade a top 8 prospect and may not trade a 9-20, either.

 

What's up with the 1-8/9-20 delineation?

[Hugh2]

1-7 ain’t getting traded. 1-5 I don’t see and Perales/Cespedes are hurt.

 

But 8-20 and beyond, they can have a field day and go shopping at the pitcher store and the hitter store.

[Hugh2]

Unless we want to start talking about Crochet

[Bellhorn04]

The Sox need another late inning reliever. Smith is on the IL and Weissert is looking cooked.

[mvp 78]

What's up with the 1-8/9-20 delineation?

 

Big dropoff after Cespedes at 7 (the upper tier). I wouldn't include Fitts in the upper tier.

[mvp 78]

The 8-30 tier is closer together than people might think. Portes could move from 29 to the mid teens in a month or two fairly easily.

[Fan_since_Boggs]

I'm not sure if trading for Dejong makes sense. The Red Sox might be better off going with Rafaela at SS this year (moves to CF next year) and use trade assets on other players, such as a SP and a right handed bat (a better RHB than Dejong). Edited July 10, 2024 by Fan_since_Boggs

[notin]

The Sox need another late inning reliever. Smith is on the IL and Weissert is looking cooked.

 

Weissert should have been demoted over Booser…

[Fan_since_Boggs]

He wasn't a problem in the 9th inning Sunday night:)

 

As we know, even crappy hitters like Bucky Dent can hit a HR in a big spot.

 

Bottom line: Yoshida is a joke of a baseball player this year. He can't field very well and he isn't hitting (86 OPS+). If he doesn't turn it around, the Red Sox need to replace him.

[notin]

I'm not sure if trading for Dejong makes sense. The Red Sox might be better off going with Rafaela at SS this year (moves to CF next year) and use trade assets on other players, such as a SP and a right handed bat (a better RHB than Dejong).

 

The Sox middle infield is a mess right now…

[mvp 78]

Weissert should have been demoted over Booser…

 

Booser is a low leverage guy per LI. Don't know if his numbers would stay the same if he was used how Weissert is.